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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Your dumbest argument yet.


What's a "dumb argument" is your thinking that i was bucking for Miller Moss actually being "good". He's more like validation that Caleb is rather bad.


However continue to argue points that ONLY you happen to be making McCarver. After all it'd sort of what you do around here isn't it? Just Asking A Question

We know exactly what it was. Moss being good means it was the team and not Williams with success. It turns out USC isn't a good team and Williams made them much better.

It's sad how desperate you are on this.


Has Brick ever bothered to mention that "Whatabout Miller Moss" also had the misfortune of participating in a much tougher conference this season than Generational Talent Caleb? Just Asking A Question

Suddenly, Miller Moss is not "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". I wonder why?


And here is why.https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2023

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It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Well, I am being wrongly attributed to as saying something I never said. Sorry for chafing over being lied about


I never said you said he was a Heisman candidate.



There you go again, bringing the Heisman into the Miller Moss conversation.

Where in that post you quoted do I say anything about Heisman candidacy?

I get it, you're upset that Miller Moss failed to live up to your early season expectations that he'd be a Heisman candidate. Don't give up hope, there's always next season.

I was pointing out that if Miller Moss had actually had a good season you and Dr. Style would be using it as a reason why Caleb Williams is going to suck as a pro, like you did in regards to what Miller Moss did in the bowl game.

I get you are trying to deflect any way you can, but my exact quote was "if Miller Moss was a Heisman finalist playing in the CFP it would be used as yet another reason why Williams isn't going to be a good NFL QB because he was a system quarterback." It's not about a wrong prediction by you that Miller Moss would be a Heisman finalist. It's about how you suddenly got very quiet about Miller Moss once it was clear that Williams was much better and the bowl game performance was a fluke.

But keep on arguing that you never said the thing I never said you said.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

I bumped it because I believe it is "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". Is that no longer the case and why is it no longer the case?

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Brick wrote:
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It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

I bumped it because I believe it is "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". Is that no longer the case and why is it no longer the case?


Which person ever stated that "Whatabout Miller Moss" was actually a very good QB? I actually stated that he wasn't but of course you had no use for such an honest assessment

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Interesting how these sort of quotes always seem to get overlooked by Brick McCarver.

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The Miller Moss point was a major L here. Williams clearly wasn't the problem at USC.



It's clear by their record from last year that Caleb wasn't the solution either. It's also "clear" that USC is in a much better conference this year than Caleb played in last season too. And the fact that a guy whose likely to never be drafted could step in with Caleb's team and win a bowl game against a ranked team says quite a bit about Caleb. As does Caleb's record in a weaker conference.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

I bumped it because I believe it is "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". Is that no longer the case and why is it no longer the case?


What is still "Pertinent" and "relevant" is that "Generational Talent" Caleb was 0-4 against ranked teams last season while Practice Squad Miller was 1-0

https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2023

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

I bumped it because I believe it is "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". Is that no longer the case and why is it no longer the case?


Which person ever stated that "Whatabout Miller Moss" was actually a very good QB? I actually stated that he wasn't but of course you had no use for such an honest assessment

So the point of the thread in the Bears section was that a QB who isn't very good is worth watching to see how he isn't very good.

I wouldn't call that "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant".

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

I bumped it because I believe it is "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". Is that no longer the case and why is it no longer the case?


Which person ever stated that "Whatabout Miller Moss" was actually a very good QB? I actually stated that he wasn't but of course you had no use for such an honest assessment

So the point of the thread in the Bears section was that a QB who isn't very good is worth watching to see how he isn't very good.

I wouldn't call that "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant".


Just to recap. "GENERATIONAL TALENT" Caleb was 0-4 against ranked teams while Practice Squad Miller was 1-0

https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2023

Definitely "Pertinent" and "Relevant" to us TRUE BEAR FANS

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

I bumped it because I believe it is "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". Is that no longer the case and why is it no longer the case?


What is still "Pertinent" and "relevant" is that "Generational Talent" Caleb was 0-4 against ranked teams last season while Practice Squad Miller was 1-0

https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2023

I thought this thread wasn't a comparison between Williams and Moss and how the play of one tells us something about how good or bad the other one is.

Careful, you may actually make the point you are trying to not make. By the way, what was Miller Moss' record at USC. What was Caleb Williams record at USC? Just asking a question.

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
It's sad how desperate you are on this.

Whatabout Miller Moss?
You bumped this thread in order to take the focus off of how shitty Caleb is playing as an NFL QB :lol: :lol:


Let the record show that this is at least the second time trolling Brick" has bumped this particular thread in an effort to take the focus off of the shitty play of "Generational Talent" Caleb by the way.

I bumped it because I believe it is "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant". Is that no longer the case and why is it no longer the case?


What is still "Pertinent" and "relevant" is that "Generational Talent" Caleb was 0-4 against ranked teams last season while Practice Squad Miller was 1-0

https://www.espn.com/college-football/t ... eason/2023

I thought this thread wasn't a comparison between Williams and Moss and how the play of one tells us something about how good or bad the other one is.

Careful, you may actually make the point you are trying to not make. By the way, what was Miller Moss' record at USC. What was Caleb Williams record at USC? Just asking a question.


You struggle with actual sports analysis thus this is rather tough for you. What Miller Moss actually did was expose just how bad Caleb Williams happened to be

Caleb went winless against ranked teams last year while Miller defeated the only ranked team that he competed against. USC didn't have the same players this year nor did they compete in the same conference either. Miller also defeated a ranked team this year too. While Caleb defeated none last season. Miller Moss won't even be an NFL player thus how was he able to defeat the sort of teams that Caleb
Could not?
None of that matters to you but it does to REAL BEAR FANS I'm sure. Something you're not

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Caleb went winless against ranked teams last year while Miller defeated the only ranked team that he competed against. USC didn't have the same players this year nor did they compete in the same conference either. Miller also defeated a ranked team this year too. While Caleb defeated none last season.
If things for USC were so much different this year then why was how Miller Moss played "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant"?

Listen, I get it if the idea here is that Miller Moss has nothing to do with Caleb Williams. I just am wondering why that suddenly became the case right around the time he struggled and then was benched? The Miller Moss Watch just confuses me. It seemed like it mattered a lot and then didn't matter at all.

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Caleb went winless against ranked teams last year while Miller defeated the only ranked team that he competed against. USC didn't have the same players this year nor did they compete in the same conference either. Miller also defeated a ranked team this year too. While Caleb defeated none last season.
If things for USC were so much different this year then why was how Miller Moss played "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant"?

Listen, I get it if the idea here is that Miller Moss has nothing to do with Caleb Williams. I just am wondering why that suddenly became the case right around the time he struggled and then was benched? The Miller Moss Watch just confuses me. It seemed like it mattered a lot and then didn't matter at all.

How can you make the argument that Caleb made USC "much better" than "Whatabout Miller Moss" when his record against ranked teams last year was 0-4 while Moss's was 1-0? Just Asking A Question

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Give LTG three more pages and it will make sense. What he said at the beginning only APPEARS to be diametrically opposed to what he says now.


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Listen, I get it if the idea here is that Miller Moss has nothing to do with Caleb Williams.

USC beat a ranked team with Miller Moss while they could not with Caleb Williams. It seems pretty clear cut actually

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Caleb went winless against ranked teams last year while Miller defeated the only ranked team that he competed against. USC didn't have the same players this year nor did they compete in the same conference either. Miller also defeated a ranked team this year too. While Caleb defeated none last season.
If things for USC were so much different this year then why was how Miller Moss played "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant"?

Listen, I get it if the idea here is that Miller Moss has nothing to do with Caleb Williams. I just am wondering why that suddenly became the case right around the time he struggled and then was benched? The Miller Moss Watch just confuses me. It seemed like it mattered a lot and then didn't matter at all.

How can you make the argument that Caleb made USC "much better" than "Whatabout Miller Moss" when his record against ranked teams last year was 0-4 while Moss's was 1-0? Just Asking A Question

You made this thread after that game. It is called "Miller Moss Watch". It was "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant".

Yet, the results this year don't matter? This is very confusing. What were we supposed to watch this year?

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Give LTG three more pages and it will make sense. What he said at the beginning only APPEARS to be diametrically opposed to what he says now.


Nah. Miller Moss lost to the very same teams that Caleb Williams would have lost too. Even though one is considered "Generational" while the other will be a greeter at the Ritz Carlton on South Beach very soon.

And the longer this has played out, the more our position has been validated. That's why we left this alone.

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Listen, I get it if the idea here is that Miller Moss has nothing to do with Caleb Williams.

USC beat a ranked team with Miller Moss while they could not with Caleb Williams. It seems pretty clear cut actually

So the "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant" part of the Miller Moss Watch only included a game he had already played?

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Caleb went winless against ranked teams last year while Miller defeated the only ranked team that he competed against. USC didn't have the same players this year nor did they compete in the same conference either. Miller also defeated a ranked team this year too. While Caleb defeated none last season.
If things for USC were so much different this year then why was how Miller Moss played "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant"?

Listen, I get it if the idea here is that Miller Moss has nothing to do with Caleb Williams. I just am wondering why that suddenly became the case right around the time he struggled and then was benched? The Miller Moss Watch just confuses me. It seemed like it mattered a lot and then didn't matter at all.

How can you make the argument that Caleb made USC "much better" than "Whatabout Miller Moss" when his record against ranked teams last year was 0-4 while Moss's was 1-0? Just Asking A Question

You made this thread after that game. It is called "Miller Moss Watch". It was "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant".

Yet, the results this year don't matter? This is very confusing. What were we supposed to watch this year?


You keep ducking a rather relevant question. Why was Miller Moss able to defeat a ranked team while Caleb Williams could not?

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Listen, I get it if the idea here is that Miller Moss has nothing to do with Caleb Williams.

USC beat a ranked team with Miller Moss while they could not with Caleb Williams. It seems pretty clear cut actually

So the "Extremely Pertinent and Relevant" part of the Miller Moss Watch only included a game he had already played?


He defeated 2 ranked teams out the shoot while Generational Talent Caleb could not. Question is why when one is being compared to Andrew Luck while the other would be happy if someone were to compare him to P.T. Willis?

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He defeated 2 ranked teams out the shoot while Generational Talent Caleb could not. Question is why when one is being compared to Andrew Luck while the other would be happy if someone were to compare him to P.T. Willis?
Wait a minute. Does this year count for the Miller Moss Watch?

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Interesting how these sort of quotes always seem to get overlooked by Brick McCarver.

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The Miller Moss point was a major L here. Williams clearly wasn't the problem at USC.



It's clear by their record from last year that Caleb wasn't the solution either. It's also "clear" that USC is in a much better conference this year than Caleb played in last season too. And the fact that a guy whose likely to never be drafted could step in with Caleb's team and win a bowl game against a ranked team says quite a bit about Caleb. As does Caleb's record in a weaker conference.


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He defeated 2 ranked teams out the shoot while Generational Talent Caleb could not. Question is why when one is being compared to Andrew Luck while the other would be happy if someone were to compare him to P.T. Willis?
Wait a minute. Does this year count for the Miller Moss Watch?


You sure are in deflection mode. And by the way Miller Moss lost 5 games this year and Caleb lost 5 games last season
Miller defeated a ranked team this year while Caleb did not :lol:
So yeah it's "Pertinent and Relevant" to point this out.

Now why has Miller been able to defeat ranked teams when Caleb could not? Just Asking A Question

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He defeated 2 ranked teams out the shoot while Generational Talent Caleb could not. Question is why when one is being compared to Andrew Luck while the other would be happy if someone were to compare him to P.T. Willis?
Wait a minute. Does this year count for the Miller Moss Watch?


You sure are in deflection mode. And by the way Miller Moss lost 5 games this year and Caleb lost 5 games last season :r
Miller defeated a ranked team this year while Caleb did not :lol:
So yeah it's "Pertinent and Relevant" to point this out.

Now why has Miller been able to defeat ranked teams when Caleb could not? Just Asking A Question

I don't want to misstate what the "Miller Moss Watch" actually is about. Does this year count? You seem to be going back and forth on whether the Miller Moss Watch was about 1 game that he had already played or if it was about his entire career at USC after Williams had declared for the draft.

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Brick wrote:
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He defeated 2 ranked teams out the shoot while Generational Talent Caleb could not. Question is why when one is being compared to Andrew Luck while the other would be happy if someone were to compare him to P.T. Willis?
Wait a minute. Does this year count for the Miller Moss Watch?


You sure are in deflection mode. And by the way Miller Moss lost 5 games this year and Caleb lost 5 games last season :r
Miller defeated a ranked team this year while Caleb did not :lol:
So yeah it's "Pertinent and Relevant" to point this out.

Now why has Miller been able to defeat ranked teams when Caleb could not? Just Asking A Question

I don't want to misstate what the "Miller Moss Watch" actually is about. Does this year count? You seem to be going back and forth on whether the Miller Moss Watch was about 1 game that he had already played or if it was about his entire career at USC after Williams had declared for the draft.


You keep asking a question that has already been answered multiple times. There is no ambiguity. The Mere fact that future Venetian Hotel Greeter Miller Moss was able to defeat the sort of teams that "Generational Talent Caleb" could not strongly suggests that "Generational Caleb" isn't particularly "Generational" or even good :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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You keep asking a question that has already been answered multiple times. There is no ambiguity.
You have provided the ambiguity by making the argument that this year for Miller Moss was far different than what Williams had and also making an argument that the 1 game Miller Moss played last year is the only fair comparison to Williams. However, you've also referenced Miller Moss and how he played early this year but it suddenly cuts off at some point.

So does this year count for the Miller Moss Watch or not?

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 Post subject: Re: Miller Moss Watch
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Brick wrote:
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You keep asking a question that has already been answered multiple times. There is no ambiguity.
You have provided the ambiguity by making the argument that this year for Miller Moss was far different than what Williams had and also making an argument that the 1 game Miller Moss played last year is the only fair comparison to Williams. However, you've also referenced Miller Moss and how he played early this year but it suddenly cuts off at some point.

So does this year count for the Miller Moss Watch or not?


And you keep ducking "Relevant and Pertinent" questions.

Why address this year when you cannot even answer "Relevant and Pertinent" questions?

And by the way let's discuss both this year and last year.

Caleb Williams is now 5-13 in his last 18 games as a Football Player. Ouch!

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