The Bad thing for Caleb supporters is that he doesn't even fare well when you play the game on their terms. His Stats suck too.

Now in terms of Johnson. He's a play action guy and Caleb sucks at play action and playing under center. I'm not nearly the guru that I used to be, but usually that is something that is not easily corrected from what I remember.

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Have you no shame? This dude was the Grand Poobah when it came to making excuses. Even after whining about people making excuses

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Yours Truly. Brick McCarver. There is nothing which suggests that Caleb played "very well" last season. Which is the point. He's closer to Anthony Richardson than he is Mahomes. That should scare the shit out of anyone that is a Bears fan. Which I am.

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The Doctor Of Misquotes. Overall, Caleb didn't play "very well" last season but I haven't seen anyone argue he did. He had many very good games and many very bad games.

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Need just a bit more to go off than Passer Rating Brick. He went nearly 5 games in which he didn't throw a touchdown. Were those "very good games" too? How about all of the games in which he failed to throw or produce a TD?

Because I never remember you using Justin Fields passer rating as an example of his "playing very well". In fact his passer rating was 93 for the season. In 5 of the 6 games that he started his rating was greater than 91. Hardly and example of your thinking that he "played well" as I recall.

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He threw a touchdown in all the games he had a 95 or better passer rating besides the Packers game they lost but should have won and he completed 75 percent of his passes in that game.

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lol it got deleted

Let's hear it for Bluesky

https://bsky.app/profile/bearsfan4life1 ... bezptack2n

Has there been any word on when a press conference will be?

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Caleb is one of many offensive players that need to be evaluated. Wondering if the launching of the analytics guy was a condition of Johnson taking the job, but it is painfully obvious that whoever was in charge of evaluating offensive talent and defensive front seven guys players needed to be replaced.

11:00 tomorrow

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That is a pathetic post. It reminds me of a Sox scoreboard fun fact in '83.

"Julio Cruz is hitting .279 in 13 of his last 19 games."

In 2 of the games in which you claimed that he played "very well" he threw for less than 160 yards. You've previously used 200 yards as evidence that someone played well. Why has this not been used in this instance? Just Asking A Question

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Yeah I probably wouldn't resign Keenan Allen. Though he wasn't a liability this past season he wasn't as good as advertised. Looked old and slow. Grab a Quality 3rd and even 4th receiver and you're likely to get better production at a cheaper price.

Swift looks like a 3rd down back masquerading as a lead back. I'd probably seek out a guy that can get between the tackles and power run a little more.

They also need a better backup in the event that Caleb sucks again. You cannot have an inexperienced QB as his backup next year. If Caleb cannot move the offense by game 3 or 4 bench his ass.

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If you go back and watch the Lions games you will see that they always come out and try to establish the run. Plenty of early carries for Montgomery between the tackles, that then sets up the play action game later. Interesting to see the name Najee Harris mentioned as a possible FA signing, he would fit the bill as a big back that can run between the tackles. Do think they either draft or sign another RB.

It is blatantly obvious that they need to upgrade the interior of the offensive line, likely bring in a veteran center and guard, maybe draft a guard and tackle, but if you are going to try to start two rookies on the line you need solid vets to teach them.

I was simply answering Dr. Styles question.

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I never used it as an example of playing well to throw for 200 yards. I did point out that we cheered when Justin Fields hit 200 yards passing.

This is stupid though. If you have a 95 rating in a close game you played well. This shouldn't even be an argument.

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Add me to the list of people shocked this got done. I don't know if Ben Johnson is good Head Coach, but we can honestly say this was NOT a stupid decision. I can't fault them for this hire. Just as I cannot fault them for taking Caleb 1 overall last year. Caleb may end up being a bust, but a sizable majority of expert and teams thought Caleb was the clear #1 pick.

Yet....the McCaskeys still own and run the Bears. I can acknowledge them making the correct decision, while fully knowing they will make a whole lot of other STUPID decisions. I would love to be wrong, but Ben Johnson maxes out at 3 seasons and will get fired.

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Justin Fields hit that # in 4 of 6 games and you repeatedly claimed that he played poorly.

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I'm here to remind you the Justin Fields is not a very good NFL QB. The evidence is there for everyone to see. Love ya, Dr. Style!

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What 4 out of 6 games are you talking about?

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But Poles is the only one in charge of drafting him. As a,talent evaluator the only opinion that matters are his and the people he pays to evaluate. If he is basing his opinion on what Todd McShay or Mel Kiper says then he shouldn't have the job. He should have did a helluva lot more vetting of this kid than he did.
He clearly bought into the bluster regarding this kid being "Generational" based on the way that he approached the day. Hopefully Johnson can "fix" this kid and turn him into a quality QB. I wouldn't hold my breath on him turning him into a top 5 QB however or top 10 either.

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again.... with the justin fields talk.... the last thing on my mind is justin fields right now. i'd suggest you move on... maybe if fields actually starts somewhere and makes the playoffs you can actually pine for him as the one that got away.

they got the best offensive coach available to be HC. they are giving caleb the best chance possible to succeed in chicago (knowing the limitations of this franchise). that is all i care about moving forward

This year he had a 95 or better passer rating in 4 games out of the 6 that he started. His rating for the year was 93. Likely higher before they started using him as a "secret weapon"

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He'll likely be Pittsburgh's starting QB next season and the Bears are on the schedule. Saddle Up Boys!

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None of these numbers match with reality. Is this in Pittsburgh?

In Pittsburgh, he passed for more than 200 yards twice in six starts.

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What happened to 95 passer rating being the "very well" playing metric

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glad justin fields is the main topic of the ben johnson HC thread. very relevant.

Now that we've established that your stats that were wrong in multiple ways are referring to his time as a starter in Pittsburgh we can continue.

I don't think I said that he played poorly in Pittsburgh. I am happy to let you post a quote though as I don't completely remember.

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I'm sorry that I don't get "moist" when discussing coaching hires. Or personnel moves in general. We are cheerleading a hire in the hopes that it would lead us back to mediocrity. Which is how 99% of Bears discussions on here and the score tend to be. If not this then the incessant Packer fan trolling even as we get curbstomped every year.

One of the reasons that this season was an utter disaster is because MANY pf the same guys that are now "Moist" were moist this time last year for Caleb. I'm not interested in "winning" offseasons or "press conferences". Again so "Score like" in philosophy. You win games on the field. And Rookie Unproven coaches coupled with a bad, unproven QB is usually a recipe for disaster.

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