me too but i really like the one i have

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It isn't about blaming coaches for the fuck of it. Or misplaced anger. The pitiful mistakes are one thing. Year after year this guy makes rookie mistakes, terrible clock management, etc, but where the was o-gameplan? The whole talk last week was that the Packers can be run on, what the fuck happened to that?

The inherent mismatches that you can eat up the 3-4 with, which despite running a hybrid like the Bears, is the Packers base defense, those mismatches and blown coverages only come when the running game is a factor. And they never gave it a chance.

The Bears passing game is hinged upon the play-action pass. It is where Cutler is at his best. It is where the big play happens. And to not stick with the running game, or really even commit to it in the first place, is unforgivable.

If your QB is obviously struggling, to the point the throws two passes into the hands of the Packers secondary, that should have been picked off, why would you continue to force the pass, until he finally throws in the INT? Calm the situation. Run the ball. And maybe you end up kicking, but it is a lot better to not force the issue, and maybe the kid settles in. Instead, the Packers ended up with 100+ INT return yards.

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- Dan Bernstein, 2016

I was on board for cutting him before last season.

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Why? This doesn't look good for the Bears.

The defense is headed towards another season of suck, and I've never been that impressed by Forte or Olsen. Cutler will throw some TDs, but he's going to be running for his life pretty frequently if the offensive line doesn't regain its quickness off the ball. This is depressing....talk me off the ledge, IB.

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Maybe I was watching a different game, but the pass protection was pretty decent. Run-blocking was the problem, especially on the inside, but the pass protection was OK for the amount of blitzing GB was doing. The offense left 11 points in the red zone, and they handed the Packers their first TD. The defense something like 225 yards of total offense, 50 of which was on the one unfortunate play; GB isn't a great rushing team, but they really couldn't do anything. Some of those things are going to regress, especially on defense, in absence or Urlacher, but you just played a game where the QB threw three INTs, including a functional pick-6, on the road against one of the better teams in the NFC and you were leading with a minute and a half to play. And, as Tillman and Bowman get healthier and can play full games (assuming they stay healthy, which might be a big assumption) the defensive backfield will improve.

The things that were bad tend to be high-variance, fluky types of things (turnover, red-zone production), and the things they did well are more significant over time.

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I thought the rookie safety Afalalalala looked good.

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I thought so as well. Kevin Payne is still terrible, however.

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the defense played a bad line but dominated the gaps and overall the secondary played well against a great set of recievers. Cutler will play better obviously and i thought bennett looked decent. I think the bears are a good team if they can get average play from hunter the rest of the season

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Isn't the Lovie Smith experiment just about over? Now that the Bears finally have a legitimate pro bowl QB, it is about time the Bears act like a big time organization & hire a proven head coach who can put together a staff of assistants, a game plan, & someone who doesnt treat the fans like they are dumb fucks.
Why do the Bears always hire first time head coaches? Wanny, Jauron, Lovie...I am sick of it.

The Bears deserve one of the following coaches:

Bill Cowher
Jon Gruden
Mike Shanahan

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I would gladly take Cowher.

But no thanks on Shanny. Lovie's record over the last few years was better than his and he basically did nothing after losing Elway and Davis.

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The routes all look the same to me. They did not stack the tight ends as much as I thought they should. They could have tried play action sets. He is slow to make adjustments/no counter to the blitz. It was like Cutler was flinging it up with no strategy of how to beat the defense until towards the end of the game. A lot of what goodkat said is true. This is not new and it is coaching. Turner is terrible.

I don't know if GB was having an off game but their offense didn't do much. The defense deserves credit for this game and I hope it continues. Maybe Marinelli is way better than babich because the talent is not as good as it was the last few years.

Ugeuth, when Brady was injured last year was NE as successful as they were because Cassel was that good or did the coaching staff help?

Thanks a**hole

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Shanny knows Offense. I would gladly take Shanny right now.

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It sure did not show in his last few years in Denver. Look at the records and the playoff appearances. Lovie trumps him in both.

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Hank Baskett is available for scraps. Any interest there?

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did anyone else get pissed off when Lovie said:

"Our defense didn't perform well, 0 takeaways, you guys[the media] focus too much on total yards allowed"


It's consistent with what he's been saying throughout his tenure as head coach, but to place the entire burden of success on takeaways seems a bit meatballish to me...

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No, guess being pissed off would mean that I actually expected a good thought from him,typical Lovie! You are right, he has been all about the takeaways, but for him to think that's the whole of it, is just a joke.

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I'm of two minds on this:

I think turnovers, for the most part, are highly random. There's no real controlling when they happen in a lot of instances, besides from reinforcing players to strip the ball when appropriate, etc. However, nothing has a bigger impact than turnovers. I don't think the focus is meatballish, but maybe Sisyphean.

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So your new obsession is Lovie Smith?
Are you gonna post it all over the board in every thread a la MEatPAnts?

I dont give a shit how many turnovers the Defense gets, as long as the D holds the opposing Offense in yardage & points & we win the game. Lovie is the only head coach who's primary game plan seems to be getting turnovers on Defense. The Bears D should focus more on tackling technique rather than turnovers. Turnovers are ramdom events, & most of the time they happen not because the D player caused the turnover, but rather the ballcarrier just loses the handle.
The Bears Defense played a pretty good game against Green Bay, yet Lovie isn't happy because they didnt get any turnovers, & he takes a shot at the media.
What a dumb ass...

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I posted this before I read this thread. I would be interested.

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Wow.

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Team Cutler.

Believe it or not, that's actually mostly true.

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I guess it depends on your definition on losing the handle. I might have taken JohnKirk's point to literally.

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Team Cutler.

There's very little correlation in certain types of turnovers. No teams recover fumbles better than others, regardless of what you hear. The QB has a bigger impact on INTs than the defense does. The one area that actually does make a difference is causing footballs, which the Bears actually do reinforce and have been good at for quite some time.

Nevertheless, if you're going to focus on one thing, turnovers might not be the worst thing to do it, as even a slight improvement can have drastic effects for your team.

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It's faster if you just type "Damn, Spanky wins".

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Not really. More people posted to my thread. Mine is bigger than yours.*

*Yes, fully aware of mult ramification.....

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STFU Mult, You need to get a hobby Kid!

Yes, Kid does need to get a hobby.

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pizza place: mulitple is pretty good though