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The only thing that was good about today's debacle in Cincinnati was the sighting of Laura Okmin on the sidelines.

My dad would dispute that. Upon seeing her, he got angry, and said "look at that hair! Jesus, I never though I'd live to see the day where someone with hair like that is on national tv."

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The Giants were immediately in a hole at New Orleans last Sunday, and couldn't quite dig their way out. The Giants are a better team than our Bears, too.


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many people regard the packers line as the worst in the league. They played better today but it was cleveland and half their team had the flu

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yeah, i do.

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many people regard the packers line as the worst in the league. They played better today but it was cleveland and half their team had the flu

You wanna trade straight up?

yeah, i do.

God, I wish we were our teams' respective GMs. I really do. Our O-line can out-suck yours all day long. And they surely will, next time they meet.

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The only thing that was good about today's debacle in Cincinnati was the sighting of Laura Okmin on the sidelines.

My dad would dispute that. Upon seeing her, he got angry, and said "look at that hair! Jesus, I never though I'd live to see the day where someone with hair like that is on national tv."

Was that the blond broad in dire need of a nose job?? Where the hell did she come from?? Ick.


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You wanna trade straight up?

yeah, i do.

God, I wish we were our teams' respective GMs. I really do. Our O-line can out-suck yours all day long. And they surely will, next time they meet.[/quote]
the bengals had 7 sacks against us. Going into this week rodgers was on pace to be sacked 80 times

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The only thing that was good about today's debacle in Cincinnati was the sighting of Laura Okmin on the sidelines.

My dad would dispute that. Upon seeing her, he got angry, and said "look at that hair! Jesus, I never though I'd live to see the day where someone with hair like that is on national tv."
Matt, Laura Okmin used to work here in Chicago at SportsChannel and down in Atlanta at CNN/Sports Illustrated, both defunct networks. I tend to think now that she's based in Los Angeles at FOX Sports Net, I think it's safe to say Laura's had some work done since relocating. She put Jillian Reynolds to shame when she worked 2 Bear games a year ago, and I thought Laura looked good. It's not saying much at all when the former "SportsChannel Report" anchor/reporter on the sidelines is the only good thing about today's debacle.


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The only thing that was good about today's debacle in Cincinnati was the sighting of Laura Okmin on the sidelines. Other than that, the Bears were embarrassed in every area. The running game was non-existent, Jay Cutler threw 3 picks and also got beat up to a point where Caleb Hanie came into the game and could've been playing a lot earlier, and the defense allowed an injured Carson Palmer and the bruised ego of Cedric "f-----'" Benson to rack up about 187 yards on the ground this afternoon! :oops: :x Lovie Smith ought to be embarrassed! The Bears weren't ready to play! If the Kevin James-looking Eric Mangini and the bumbling Browns beat the Bears next Sunday at Soldier Field, I think it might be time to put Lovie on "Firing Watch". This can't happen again!


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Coached Joe Montana. Was O-Coordinator for Steve Young when he won a Super Bowl. Mentor to Brett Favre and went to 2 Super Bowls with him. Traded a 3rd round pick for an unknown QB who he mentored and took to a SB. Can't think of who should coach the Bears.


I would be abso-fucking-lutly thrilled if the Bears hired either Cowher, Gruden, Shanahan, or Holmgren or as head coach. Who wouldn't???

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 6/16
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I read a great line from Mike Imren in the Daily Herald the other day. "Giving the current Bears coaching staff Jay Cutler is like giving surgical instruments to a slaughter house".
The Bears are ruining this kid in a hurry.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 6/16
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Coached Joe Montana. Was O-Coordinator for Steve Young when he won a Super Bowl. Mentor to Brett Favre and went to 2 Super Bowls with him. Traded a 3rd round pick for an unknown QB who he mentored and took to a SB. Can't think of who should coach the Bears.


I would be abso-fucking-lutly thrilled if the Bears hired either Cowher, Gruden, Shanahan, or Holmgren or as head coach. Who wouldn't???

if it was one of the last 3 guys i'd be pretty damn happy too

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 6/16
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I know it is hard for some here to believe but it is only 1 game. Every now and then you will have games like this. It doesn't mean the season is over. RELAX!

This is not the first time that a Lovie Smith team seemed to show up uprepared for a game. This is 2 weeks in a row that the Bears were outcoahced. Today they were terribly outplayed and outclassed.


The Bears were not outcoached last week. They outplayed the Falcons most of the game but made too many big mistakes. That has absolutely nothing to do with coaching.

Nas, either you are watching a different team than the rest of us or you are just shitting yourself if you really believe that the problems on this team have "absolutely nothing to do with coaching."

Case and point, Lovie Smith going into halftime yesterday- "we have the momentum now". 31-3 Lovie.
Try and defend that one, Nas.

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I'm still waiting for all the apologies to Urlacher and Harris. All those rushing yards Cedric Benson got? Yeah, guess what.


You won't hear em. They will be too busy bitching about Lovie and Angelo.

Boiler Rick and I were one of the only guys saying when Urlacher went out that some of the folks around here finally got what they wanted and they might not like it. Urlacher is pretty important to this defense.

When Urlacher got hurt and Irish Boy was "talking people off the ledge" I said I was walking towards the ledge.


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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 6/16
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This "game" was a colossal failure on all fronts. Offense, Defense, Special Teams and especially coaching.
When a coach says, "I didn't have my team prepared today" he should be relieved of his duties. That team looked as if they had no idea what football was or how it was played. Your team has lost two games in a row after the bye week with this last one being a stunning defeat.
This defense MUST be modified in order to be competitive. I don't care how fast you are if you are grossly undersized as compared to your opponents o-line you my friend are fucked. If Lovie had a innovative bone in his body, he would try to modify this d-line to incorporate speed end rushers with some big-asses in the middle to provide pressure and run stopping. Lovie however will just keep trotting this shit out week after week until he is finally fired.

This current team will end up ruining Jay Cutler. He is either going to get hurt, or morph into a bad QB who throws picks every game trying to create something out of nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears Game 6/16
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This "game" was a colossal failure on all fronts. Offense, Defense, Special Teams and especially coaching.
When a coach says, "I didn't have my team prepared today" he should be relieved of his duties. That team looked as if they had no idea what football was or how it was played. Your team has lost two games in a row after the bye week with this last one being a stunning defeat.
This defense MUST be modified in order to be competitive. I don't care how fast you are if you are grossly undersized as compared to your opponents o-line you my friend are fucked. If Lovie had a innovative bone in his body, he would try to modify this d-line to incorporate speed end rushers with some big-asses in the middle to provide pressure and run stopping. Lovie however will just keep trotting this shit out week after week until he is finally fired.

This current team will end up ruining Jay Cutler. He is either going to get hurt, or morph into a bad QB who throws picks every game trying to create something out of nothing.


Good post CB. Lovie is sticking with the cover 2 Defense, even though the Bears don't have the right kind of players to play this scheme. You need great Safeties & DL to play the cover 2. If you play the cover 2 with bad Safeties & DL, well, you see what happens.
Not only is Lovie in over his head as a head coach, it appears that he is a lousy Defensive coordinator as well. I still can't believe the Bears pay him $5 Million per year. Sheesh...

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So what scheme works with no D-line, 2 of your 3 linebackers out and a bad secondary?? The cover 2 isnt the problem. The problem is the players are playing like shit on both sides of the ball and the coaching is bad too. Does Turner realize that not EVERY FUCKING RUN has to go right up the middle?
This is going to be a long season.

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Fumbling the ball and throwing interceptions in the red zone is the fault of Lovie and his staff? A 10 year veteran committing dumb penalties is also their fault? How do they fix those things? Yell at the players and tell them not to do it again? Throw stuff around? Bench them? It always amazes me how fans blame coaches for everything that goes wrong but when there is success they don't give them credit. They can't win.


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As a graduate of Eastern IL, a shared history with Jay Cutler, and an offensive mastermind, I think Shanahan provides a perfect fit for this team. The minute that Angelo pulled the trigger to get Cutler, was the minute that this franchise needed to be molded to allow him to fit in without any hitches. This team has to be able to protect him, provide him with solid receivers, have a solid offensive sytem in place. I don't see that happening here. And what is Olsen doing on the line pass blocking?? Everybody knows that this isn't is specialty. He should be split out or in the slot causing the defense to adjust to us? Not the other way around. It is very frustrating.


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As a graduate of Western IL, a shared history with Jay Cutler, and an offensive mastermind, I think Shanahan provides a perfect fit for this team. The minute that Angelo pulled the trigger to get Cutler, was the minute that this franchise needed to be molded to allow him to fit in without any hitches. This team has to be able to protect him, provide him with solid receivers, have a solid offensive sytem in place. I don't see that happening here. And what is Olsen doing on the line pass blocking?? Everybody knows that this isn't is specialty. He should be split out or in the slot causing the defense to adjust to us? Not the other way around. It is very frustrating.

Mike Shanahan is currently earning $7 million this year NOT to coach. You read it here. Shanahan will be coaching in the NFL next year, and Washington Redskins' owner Dan Snyder & Dallas Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones have Mike's number on their speed dial waiting to talk to him. Jim Zorn's on borrowed time in Washington, and even though the Cowboys won yesterday, the Mike Mulligan-looking Wade Phillips isn't going to coach "America's Team" much longer if Dallas doesn't go to the Super Bowl.


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You read it here. Shanahan will be coaching in the NFL next year,



Going out on a limb there SHARKy

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You read it here. Shanahan will be coaching in the NFL next year,



Going out on a limb there SHARKy

Dan, I really believe Shanahan will be coaching somewhere next year. I'm not so sure Bill Cowher wants back in like so many believe. I think Bill's got a good gig on CBS Sports' "NFL Today" sandwiched in between Dan Marino & the big mouth of Shannon Sharpe in the New York studio. I don't think he wants to leave CBS.


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I am typically in agreement with Nas on this coaching/players debate, but I am beginning to sway more to blaming the coaches for this futility. Chicago has one of the premier backs in the league in Matt Forte, but the moment they get a QB with any kind of resume the offensive gameplan completely abandons the run. The coaches are making Cutler look bad.


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One thing that Shanahan knows how to do is coach QB's...& he certainly knows Cutler. The Bears last 3 head coaches caMe from the Defensive side of the ball. It's time they hire a coach with a background in Offense.

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OnE thing that Shanahan knows how to do is coach QB's...& he certainly knows Cutler. The Bears last 3 head coaches caMe from the Defensive side of the ball. It's time they hire a coach with a background in Offense.

Shanahan has had some nice talent at QB. He didnt really coach up Elway. He is known for his running game.


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When Urlacher got hurt and Irish Boy was "talking people off the ledge" I said I was walking towards the ledge.

I wasn't talking people off the ledge in regards to Urlacher, I was talking them off the ledge in regards to the first loss. I said it wasn't that big of a deal, and that the Bears generally played pretty well. I believe I made that post before the "out for the season" announcement, at which point I said that it was a bigger loss than people were letting on because, well, this being Chicago, everyone and everything sucks except for the newest savior, who is infallible. Until he isn't. At which point fuck it GRUDEN WIN

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One thing that Shanahan knows how to do is coach QB's...& he certainly knows Cutler. The Bears last 3 head coaches caMe from the Defensive side of the ball. It's time they hire a coach with a background in Offense.

WHAT?! Are you nuts? Jake Plummer? How bad was he at the end? Why didn't Cutler carry over his "knowledge" from his time with Shanahan? Always hire defense for your head coach. A great defense makes for a great offense. Not vice versa. Need proof? See the Arizona Cardinals last season.

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