I fail to see how what he said at 18 makes him a prima Donna. It makes him like every other kid who was thrown into the public light.

Kid just wanted to flex a little on social media. Who cares!

They’ve created some image of this guy that’s completely divorced from anything you see on the field.

Only people who didn’t watch him play - of which there are MANY - believe any of the noise. Fortunately for the Bears he seems to rise above it all and has a great family surrounding him.

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Again I ask you:

Justin Fields is 3-12 against the NFC North in his career! So this is acceptable to you?

I don't recall LeBron talking a lot of shit before entering the NBA. And newsflash. If you are going to provide an example of his talking shit, then it might not be the best idea to cite a headline of him where he isn't talking shit.

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His shoes outsell Lebron's shoes. That is your proof!

Ok, I'm done for today. Have a good day in your imaginary world.

I am excited. Caleb is going to be great. Justin will have a fine journeyman career making highlight reel runs and getting his head taken off each game. Caleb will make amazing throws from different arm angles and give a chance to beat Jordan Love.

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Yeah, it's crazy. I assumed that most people would recognize the narrative was bullshit once they heard him speak, but MANY are still clinging to the narrative.

Being somewhat of an introvert and football nerd will help, but the media may nitpick things in ways we've never seen before.

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GO BEARS!!!

Yeah shoe sales have never been used as a sign of an athlete's popularity. What universe do Some of you actually reside? Just Asking A Question

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trade Fields
trade the pick for a haul, including extra 2026 1st rounder(s)
draft one of the other QB's down the board

and then worst case scenario you have extra lottery tickets for the 2026 QB draft class.

Not sure what Justin Fields has to do with Caleb Williams going .500 in conference, below .500 career against ranked teams and 0 for against Utah with USC's top 8 recruiting class and top 3 transfer portal class?

The same Ferrari roster Caleb Williams drove into the ditch against Utah/half the PAC 12 this dork got behind the wheel and destroyed a top 20 team in USC's bowl game. Miller Moss matched Caleb Williams best 6 TD performance and Moss did it against a ranked team; while C-Will could only muster 1 or 2 or 0 TD passes against any team not the growling Wolfpack of Nevada or Prime Time's zero-defense Colorado team:

is it the traditional media (Fox, ESPN, SI, local papers, etc.) or is like fans/former players on X/YouTube/etc? I sense most/all of the hate is coming from adolescent pimple-popping fanboys like LTG who are throwing tantrums online because their sucky QB is on the way out.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

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I think it's a mixture of both. The traditional media isn't generally over the top with the lies and bullshit narratives; however, they fan the flames by "asking questions" that they know are bullshit. Florio walked one back yesterday. It says a lot when Florio thinks something has gone too far.

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Traditional media definitely went deep on crying after Washington, claiming his dad is Lavar Ball, demanding ownership (without evidence), etc.

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I think the get off my lawn old guy crowd focus on things like the nail polish and whatever, so haters gonna hate is how I look at that crowd. I think questions about statistical regression and blowing off the media are fair game.

Maybe 20 years ago the local/national narrative would be clearer - it'd be a foregone conclusion that you go with Williams and trade Fields. No objective analysis of Fields past performance can result in keeping him and paying him. It's only with the advent of everyone getting a megaphone now via social media that the narrative is looked at as a "debate," with all the illiterate Fields-supporting masses mass polluting the web with anti-Caleb stuff and influencing algorithms just enough where larger players see value in pandering to that unwashed bloc of Fields supporters with "is Caleb evil" content.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Lots of people here are REALLY running away from CWill's stats against better teams. Though stats matter.

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True. Just trying to generate content I guess. The thing that ties Bernstein/Holmes/Rahimi and Mike Greenberg together is both push dumbass narratives they know are false (wanting to get rid of Fields is racist/Fields is MVP) because it's going to generate buzz and clicks. To be fair, it's the same thing Parkins did when he hosted that dumbass QB1 party and now with his Williams jersey. Hot take culture I guess. But the true believers in this crap - that Fields is MVP/replacing him is racist/Caleb is evil - are just dumbasses

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

If Caleb Williams is 1st overall caliber, Miller Moss should be starting in the NFL now apparently. :Outplayed with your own team by Miller Moss.
Damn, I think I'd rather be 5 something than get cucked by Miller Moss


Maybe C-Will is saving his wins for the pros? He didn't wanna use em all up while in college.

Parkins is a windsock. I don’t have a huge problem with windsocks as they’ll tacitly acknowledge when they were wrong.

Chicago is a weird market as people like Bernstein are proudly ignorant when it comes to college football yet have authoritative opinions on college football players.

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Despite throwing 0 touchdowns and losing the game, Kirk Williams probably had good advanced analytics stats against Utah.

Touchdowns and Wins be overvalued. People gotta respect C-Will's TPL.

I don't know who this guy is, but Adam Schefter follows him, so I assume he isn't a hack.

According to Tony Pauline of Sportskeeda, the Bears are close to finalizing a deal that would send Fields to the Atlanta Falcons. Pauline isn’t sure if something will be announced before the NFL Combine ends this weekend and doesn’t list any sort of compensation the Bears would receive in return. 

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Good for Fields. Better landing spot playing a 3rd place schedule in the NFC South than going to Pittsburgh and trying to contend in that brutal division.

Better news for the Panthers, Saints, and Bucs. Falcons upgrade from third best QB in division based on QBR to...third best QB in division based on QBR. DCs salivating at the chance to confuse Fields with coverages he doesn't put effort into studying. Sack totals for all DEs and DTs in the division will increase and trigger various monetary bonuses.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Notice how there has been very little in the way of discussion by noted Football Guru Vegan regarding what he expects Caleb Williams to be as an NFL player? Other than the cop-out ploy of better than Justin Fields? Just Asking Questions

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I've been very clear. The Bears should look up upgrade at QB since the current one isn't franchise. I don't watch college football so I don't know about Caleb's deficiencies. The current QB in Chicago however needs to go for the team to have a chance at playoff success.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Which is a silly notion to conceive since they have the #1 overall pick. You don't ever secure a #1 overall pick to merely "upgrade" a position. You secure the #1 overall pick in order to draft Stars to Superstar caliber players. It's a "wasted" pick if all you do is "upgrade" the position by removing a player whom you believe to be terrible and replacing him with someone that is only slightly better.

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Patrick Mahomes was 13-19 in college against ALL teams. .500 and under.

C.J. Stroud was 9-6

Bryce Young was 23-4.

Justin Fields was 20-2 and 3-12 against the NFC North in his career!

So no i'm not putting alot of thought into the W/L record.

Mitch is "slightly better" then Justin. Williams has the POTENTIAL to be far superior then Fields.

The Bears could sign Mitch today and in 3 years be 3-12 against the NFC North. Not a high bar to clear.

How many top 10 recruiting classes and 5 stars did Texas Tech have during Mahomes tenure? It's Texas freaking Tech, ffs. USC is a top program and 2023 was one of their best years--top 8 recruiting class (not quite as good as their 2021 top 7 recruiting class), top 3 xfer portal class. Miller Moss tore up a ranked team with the 2023 USC roster--Moss leading the same team as Williams put the most points on a Louisville defense Cardinals gave up all season--why couldn't Caleb Williams do the same with the same team? Williams couldn't even find the end zone against Utah.

Is Miller Moss that good? Or is Caleb Williams that bad.

This is meatball talk. You could say why couldn't Justin Fields beat the Packers when the Lions beat the Packers 4 out of the last 5 games and the Bears beat the Lions 28-13!. Why couldn't the great Justin Fields do what the very mediocre J.Goff did 4 times!

Counting his record playing on a team that was tanking un 2 of the 3 years that he was a starter. Now that's smart.With a receiving Corp that's was worst in the league pre D.j. Moore. And no Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky isn't better than Justin Fields.

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Some of these anti-Caleb posts are comedy gold lol

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