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The Bears defense were bumslayers.

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1998 Peyton Manning Weeks 12-16: 62% CMP%, 257 YDS/G, 10 TD 6 INT, 90.0 Rating
2024 Caleb Williams Weeks 11-14: 65% CMP%, 240 YDS/G, 7 TD 0 INT, 102.1 Rating

Manning had it figured out after 11 games. Was I wrong? 26 years ago when QBs were football players. You could hit them high, low, and sliding was in a different sport. Listen, the last thing I want to do is make comparisons to Peyton Manning. But the gay guy brought it up.


Keep running away bitch from the stat's and how you manipolated them because you didn't want to admit you were wrong. Caller Bob bitch

Caleb hasn't figured it out yet. That was perfectly obvious yesterday. Just when you think he might, he shits all over himself. Peyton Manning figured it out in his first year under much more violent conditions. I hope Caleb does too. He's got 4 games to show he isn't the #4 rookie QB.


Even in your decrepit advanced retarded state you have power to move goalpost's. This isnt about figuring it out dumb ass this is about making grand conclusion's after 12 game's. If you made conclusion's after rookie season's you should have written of manning who was less accurate, had a worse passer rating and throrw more interception's then William's. But you write of William's and not Manning. This prove's your garbage. Here's a life tip; stop seling your reading glasse's for crack. It shows.

My grand conclusion was there was a better than 50% chance he isn't the best QB of his class. OMG, what a decrepit advanced retarded stage I'm in.

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Bears offense was much more competitive during the year that they were tanking than it is now. Unbelievable!

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wtf was positive about the San Francisco game

That he didn't quit when his offensive line let 4 of 5 first half drives end with a sack and then finished the game throwing for multiple touchdowns with a 73% completion rate?

wow incredible job what was the final score again in this close fought contest???

The "above average defense" allowed like 35 points or something. What's your point?

Whoa so I’m sure the Bears offense must have been great right? How many yards did they get in the first half???

I already told you the Bears offense was bad in the first half in no small part because the offensive line let up drive-ending sacks in 4 of their 5 first half drives. Then they came alive and Caleb threw for multiple touchdowns and had an overall impressive passer rating.


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When "coming alive" on offense means scoring points ONLY after the game was "well in hand".

Yesterday marked the 4th time (in 13 games) in which the Bears have been blanked completely in the first half.

In 3 other games they have ONLY managed to score 3 points. To refer to their first half offense as Anemic is actually an insult to the word Anemic

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wtf was positive about the San Francisco game

That he didn't quit when his offensive line let 4 of 5 first half drives end with a sack and then finished the game throwing for multiple touchdowns with a 73% completion rate?

wow incredible job what was the final score again in this close fought contest???

The "above average defense" allowed like 35 points or something. What's your point?

Whoa so I’m sure the Bears offense must have been great right? How many yards did they get in the first half???

I already told you the Bears offense was bad in the first half in no small part because the offensive line let up drive-ending sacks in 4 of their 5 first half drives. Then they came alive and Caleb threw for multiple touchdowns and had an overall impressive passer rating.

Ok yeah I’m sure they still got something done despite that right? I read somewhere that no team since the year 2000 has gotten less than 20 yards of offense in a half of football—so the Bears must have eclipsed that number? I mean unless this is the first time ever a quarterback has bad offensive line play in league history.

Just wondering what that yardage was, lemme know when you find it.


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Keep.in mind that "Caddyshack" believes that the smart play is to consistently bash a defense that ranked 9th Best in ppg and allowed its first 30 point Game on defense yesterday. Mind you said 30 point allowance occurred ONLY after they fired the "defensive mastermind" of said defense. A dude he repeatedly called for to be shitcanned.
You can't make this shit up.

This defense is 2nd worst in the league in Yards Per Play. They are 7th-worst in total rush yards allowed, and 4th-worst in yards per pass attempt and 2nd-worst in yards per pass completed. Meanwhile, they are only league average in the percentage of opponent drives that end up in scores yet are tied for 8th-most drives given to an opponent and in the bottom half of the league in net yards per drive. They may not "break" and give up TDs at an unprecedented rate, but opponents move the ball against them, and as a result, score with relative ease.


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Poles also made a huge mistake by keeping Bagent as his backup. He essentially had 2 Rookies as his #1 and #2 on the depth chart. Which only means that he was REALLY sold on Caleb being a "Generational Talent"

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I already told you the Bears offense was bad in the first half in no small part because the offensive line let up drive-ending sacks in 4 of their 5 first half drives. Then they came alive and Caleb threw for multiple touchdowns and had an overall impressive passer rating.

Ok yeah I’m sure they still got something done despite that right? I read somewhere that no team since the year 2000 has gotten less than 20 yards of offense in a half of football—so the Bears must have eclipsed that number? I mean unless this is the first time ever a quarterback has bad offensive line play in league history.

Just wondering what that yardage was, lemme know when you find it.

The Bears did not win the first half. Thankfully, that's why there are two halves in a football game, and we don't have to rely on a hypothetical league where only one half counts. For some reason you seem intent on arguing that is how the league conducts football.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Keep.in mind that "Caddyshack" believes that the smart play is to consistently bash a defense that ranked 9th Best in ppg and allowed its first 30 point Game on defense yesterday. Mind you said 30 point allowance occurred ONLY after they fired the "defensive mastermind" of said defense. A dude he repeatedly called for to be shitcanned.
You can't make this shit up.

This defense is 2nd worst in the league in Yards Per Play. They are 7th-worst in total rush yards allowed, and 4th-worst in yards per pass attempt and 2nd-worst in yards per pass completed. Meanwhile, they are only league average in the percentage of opponent drives that end up in scores yet are tied for 8th-most drives given to an opponent and in the bottom half of the league in net yards per drive. They may not "break" and give up TDs at an unprecedented rate, but opponents move the ball against them, and as a result, score with relative ease.


When being scored upon "with ease" equates to being 9th best in points allowed apparently.

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I already told you the Bears offense was bad in the first half in no small part because the offensive line let up drive-ending sacks in 4 of their 5 first half drives. Then they came alive and Caleb threw for multiple touchdowns and had an overall impressive passer rating.

Ok yeah I’m sure they still got something done despite that right? I read somewhere that no team since the year 2000 has gotten less than 20 yards of offense in a half of football—so the Bears must have eclipsed that number? I mean unless this is the first time ever a quarterback has bad offensive line play in league history.

Just wondering what that yardage was, lemme know when you find it.

The Bears did not win the first half. Thankfully, that's why there are two halves in a football game, and we don't have to rely on a hypothetical league where only one half counts. For some reason you seem intent on arguing that is how the league conducts football.

Yeah but I mean they must have done SOMETHING right. I mean this guy is a generational talent I’d imagine he at least put up a hundred or so yards of offense even in a bad half.


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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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Keep.in mind that "Caddyshack" believes that the smart play is to consistently bash a defense that ranked 9th Best in ppg and allowed its first 30 point Game on defense yesterday. Mind you said 30 point allowance occurred ONLY after they fired the "defensive mastermind" of said defense. A dude he repeatedly called for to be shitcanned.
You can't make this shit up.

This defense is 2nd worst in the league in Yards Per Play. They are 7th-worst in total rush yards allowed, and 4th-worst in yards per pass attempt and 2nd-worst in yards per pass completed. Meanwhile, they are only league average in the percentage of opponent drives that end up in scores yet are tied for 8th-most drives given to an opponent and in the bottom half of the league in net yards per drive. They may not "break" and give up TDs at an unprecedented rate, but opponents move the ball against them, and as a result, score with relative ease.


When being scored upon "with ease" equates to being 9th best in points allowed apparently.

Again, when you're only league-average at letting any given drive by your opponent turn into points, and then you give your opponents more drives than the league average defense does...can you do that math, big guy?


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I already told you the Bears offense was bad in the first half in no small part because the offensive line let up drive-ending sacks in 4 of their 5 first half drives. Then they came alive and Caleb threw for multiple touchdowns and had an overall impressive passer rating.

Ok yeah I’m sure they still got something done despite that right? I read somewhere that no team since the year 2000 has gotten less than 20 yards of offense in a half of football—so the Bears must have eclipsed that number? I mean unless this is the first time ever a quarterback has bad offensive line play in league history.

Just wondering what that yardage was, lemme know when you find it.

The Bears did not win the first half. Thankfully, that's why there are two halves in a football game, and we don't have to rely on a hypothetical league where only one half counts. For some reason you seem intent on arguing that is how the league conducts football.

Yeah but I mean they must have done SOMETHING right. I mean this guy is a generational talent I’d imagine he at least put up a hundred or so yards of offense even in a bad half.

"at least a hundred or so yards of offense" is pretty arbitrary. It was a bad half for the offense marked by repeated drive-derailing sacks. If you can articulate even a little bit about what you think an "actual generational talent" would have done, beyond "SOMETHING", I'd love to hear what your fantasylands QB does differently than Caleb in any given situation in that game.


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It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.

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It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.


You are handeling this very poorly. Anyone who says field's is beter should be banned for stupidity. Very simple. Anyone who says the book is writen on William's should be shot.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Keep.in mind that "Caddyshack" believes that the smart play is to consistently bash a defense that ranked 9th Best in ppg and allowed its first 30 point Game on defense yesterday. Mind you said 30 point allowance occurred ONLY after they fired the "defensive mastermind" of said defense. A dude he repeatedly called for to be shitcanned.
You can't make this shit up.

This defense is 2nd worst in the league in Yards Per Play. They are 7th-worst in total rush yards allowed, and 4th-worst in yards per pass attempt and 2nd-worst in yards per pass completed. Meanwhile, they are only league average in the percentage of opponent drives that end up in scores yet are tied for 8th-most drives given to an opponent and in the bottom half of the league in net yards per drive. They may not "break" and give up TDs at an unprecedented rate, but opponents move the ball against them, and as a result, score with relative ease.


When being scored upon "with ease" equates to being 9th best in points allowed apparently.

Again, when you're only league-average at letting any given drive by your opponent turn into points, and then you give your opponents more drives than the league average defense does...can you do that math, big guy?


Severely Mentally Ill's level of Derangement has now reached the point where he is currently arguing that avg yards allowed per play is a greater determinant as to whether you have a good or bad defense than avg points allowed. Talk about "Message Board Stupid" :lol:

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It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.

I welcome any kind of play-specific account from either LTG or USA about what Caleb should have done that would have been "good", befitting a truly talented QB, and why what he did was "bad", denoting a worthless NFL talent.


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It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.


From Generational Talent to Just Another Rookie Who Sucks: The Caleb Williams Story!

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It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.


From Generational Talent to Just Another Rookie Who Sucks: The Caleb Williams Story!

I'm only counting the last 6 games of Williams 3rd year.

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Poles also made a huge mistake by keeping Bagent as his backup. He essentially had 2 Rookies as his #1 and #2 on the depth chart. Which only means that he was REALLY sold on Caleb being a "Generational Talent"

This is totally correct. You need a guy like Ryan Tannehill or Blaine Gabbert there to hold down the fort. But they're haunted by "dahhh dey gotta put Brine Greasy in" ruining Rex's development.

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Brick wrote:
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It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.


From Generational Talent to Just Another Rookie Who Sucks: The Caleb Williams Story!

I'm only counting the last 6 games of Williams 3rd year.


Will that happen "Fairly Quickly"? Just Asking A Question

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It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.


From Generational Talent to Just Another Rookie Who Sucks: The Caleb Williams Story!

I'm only counting the last 6 games of Williams 3rd year.


Will that happen "Fairly Quickly"? Just Asking A Question

Oh, the thing you keep repeating you were completely wrong about. Thanks for bringing it up again.

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Brick wrote:
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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
It turns out a rookie QB is sometimes very good and sometimes very bad. First time in history of the NFL that has happened.

At least Fields was only bad as a rookie.


From Generational Talent to Just Another Rookie Who Sucks: The Caleb Williams Story!

I'm only counting the last 6 games of Williams 3rd year.


Will that happen "Fairly Quickly"? Just Asking A Question

Oh, the thing you keep repeating you were completely wrong about. Thanks for bringing it up again.


Once the season actually began, you were proven wrong, "Fairly Quickly"

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I was so right you won't even count the first two years of Fields and the first half of his third year.

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Poles also made a huge mistake by keeping Bagent as his backup. He essentially had 2 Rookies as his #1 and #2 on the depth chart. Which only means that he was REALLY sold on Caleb being a "Generational Talent"

This is totally correct. You need a guy like Ryan Tannehill or Blaine Gabbert there to hold down the fort. But they're haunted by "dahhh dey gotta put Brine Greasy in" ruining Rex's development.

I think it’s less Brian Griese and more Poles trying to prove he can find talent in unexpected places.

His approach to roster building is driven by his psychological shortcomings stemming from being just good enough to realize why he’s not good enough to play in the NFL. .

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The Cover-2 works if you have a dominant 3-tech, not too many of those guys around, you usually only find them at the top of the draft, this team does not have anything close to that on the roster.

You need a middle LB that can cover the middle of the field and will come up quickly in run support, Edmunds is brutal, he gets too deep in his drops and is an unwilling tackler despite his size. He looks lost most of the time, a huge FA miss by Poles who thought he was buying the next Urlacher.

You need a safety that can quickly come up in run support and be a ball hawk in the deep middle, nobody like that one this team. The thought Brisker could fill this role, but he cannot stay healthy.

Your DE's need to be able to set the edge in the run game, this team has one guy that does that some of the time, but the rest of the group gets blown up in the run game regularly. Sweat looks like a guy that is very happy he got paid, you can see why Washington traded him.

The good OC's and QB's know what the Bears are running on D better than the current Bears coaches and players.


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I was so right you won't even count the first two years of Fields.


Oh yes I will McCarver. Oh yes I will :lol:

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Anyone else see or hear the stuff saying that Poles is really frustrated and could possibly even resign as GM?

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Anyone else see or hear the stuff saying that Poles is really frustrated and could possibly even resign as GM?


Didn't ESPN 1000 report something like this? Not resigning, but frustrated?

Lots of speculation out there on extensions/resigning, who's in power, etc. Our local media has no idea.


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Pretty sure Silvy is the one reporting it. He was the “Bears players want Bagent to start” guy, so make of it what you will.


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