Garbage Time King Caleb entered the 4th quarters of both games down 14 and having not thrown a touchdown in each of the 2 games.

And his "stat padding tendencies" has been validated with each and every game since then.

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Yes but it may take until Daniels gets injured because he can't sustain how he plays. Otherwise Daniels probably ends up better.

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It's incredibly stupid to act like a game they had a FG to win and another they had a lead within the last 10 seconds were essentially over.

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It's stupid to think that a game in which you are down 27-16 with a minute and a half to play is not over.

And had Minnesota lost it would have been do more to their "collapse" than it was Caleb's "great play"

And you are the same dupe who claimed that Caleb played well or great in a game I'm which his team had all of 9 points and was down 12 at the 3 minute mark of the 4th quarter

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In both games referenced the Bears were favored to win the game in the last minute.

There is no reason to be this irrational. Williams has been actually bad in a lot of games. No reason to be so wrongheaded about the games he put them in a position to win if not for terrible coaching at the very end.

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By the way this was posted after the Colts game.


When do you expect to be "Right" about Caleb? Something tells me next season you will provide more and more excuse making

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Yeah. Go ahead. It depends on what I was talking about.

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It should be pointed out that none of Garbage King Caleb's 9 tds during the 4th Quarter have occurred when the Bears were down 7 points or less. Which further validates his Stat Padding Tendencies

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‘Garbage time’ numbers don’t put you within striking distance to win games.


Garbage time is putting up numbers late in the game when said game is well out of hand and still well out of hand after putting those numbers up.

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The numbers strongly suggest that he is putting up numbers in garbage time

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Yeah, I don't think "garbage time" is really the proper label for when Williams thrives. It's whatever comes before that, when the defense takes their foot off the gas a little bit with a comfortable lead and the even-up calls start coming in. Maybe the Bears should start marketing it as "Caleb Time." Coming out of the half down 23-3, big graphic on the jumbotron of a clock getting picked up and smashed by a hand with painted fingernails, and then "IT'S CALEB TIME!!!" in big vibrating letters.

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When is the last time the Bears were within striking distance to win a game really? Probably the Minnesota OT game (and that was almost entirely because of the special teams). This argument doesn’t really float the boat anymore, the Bears have been getting absolutely clowned since Matt Eberflus was fired.

This game against Seattle, yeah I guess they technically lost by three points but legitimately they were never in a position to win. That offensive performance was one of the worst in NFL history.

"Caleb's passing performance isn't impressive because it came against a defense that wasn't blitzing as often and was dropping more defenders into coverage in obvious passing situations!"

This notion that NFL defenses just let teams waltz into the endzone once they're up by a few scores is completely asinine. They're not concerned with the run and want to prevent the passing offense from scoring tuddies. If Justin Fields was dragging this awful team back to within a score in the 2nd half LTG would be posting about how it's obvious he's worth building around and we should be heralding moral victories.

Caleb has struggled, and yes more so than anyone would have liked and more than I, and other fans of the pick, expected, but his struggles are completely within the rationally expected range of rookie QB performances, and he has demonstrated, numerous times, exceptional talent for the position, at any point in the game. Let's have a little more common sense and, above all else, honesty here, Nardi, USA and LTG.

Just to reiterate Tee Time's sport of choice is golf thus the concept of "time and score is rather foreign to him.

It's clear that teams are allowing the Bears to "dink" and "dunk" during the 4th Quarters of games once they get into the portion of the game where they have a comfortable lead.

This was clearly pointed out early in the season when they played the Colts. Colts were up 12 with 5 minutes to go and allowed the Bears to march down the field burning clock as they did it. Once the Bears cut it to 5 and having burned all of their TOs the Colts just simply ran out the clock once they received the ball back with 2 minutes to go and up 5.

Bears had 9 points prior to.Caleb's stat padding exhibition at that point

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You like to say he’s struggled but when anyone points out any of his struggles you freak out like it’s not real. It’s such a stupid little rhetorical trick you love to pull. If I say his accuracy is bad, or his decision making sucks, or he holds onto to the ball for an eternity you go into full cope mode explaining how it’s everyone’s fault but his own. WYC.

But yeah, even your tune is starting to change. That game at home against a mid opponent was not acceptable in a player’s sixteenth start, these excuses are running dry.

Good post but I'd quibble with the "numerous times he demonstrated exceptional talent." I think that's a case of living in a BearsWorld vacuum. Bo Nix has demonstrated exceptional talent as has Daniels. It's the NFL.

I've agreed that his accuracy downfield is concerning, but what I disagree with is the notion that it's a fundamental flaw in his talent and not inexperience and lack of reps at the NFL level. I've pointed out that he's missed receivers who are open, some of whom were running free, but again what I disagree with is the idea that he's too stupid to go through the full range of progressions (like Fields and Mitch were) and it's totally not at all because he's running for his life because of a terrible offensive line.

It is you who is letting personal political beliefs suffocate any rational or honest assessment of a single football player, so much so that you call actual honesty and rationality "a stupid little rhetorical trick".

He knocked Keenan Allen out of bounds with a completed inaccurate pass on the final drive. It was completely unacceptable for a high schooler. It was a 10 yd throw.

We're at the "that completed pass was actually inaccurate!" portion of the totally not dishonest criticism of Caleb Williams. Have you logged the Keenan Allen drops, as well or just the "inaccurate receptions"?

Whatabout Keenan Allen's dropsJustin Fields had more drops in 10 games his rookie year than Caleb has had in 16 during his.
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Being one of the least accurate passers of the previous 24-25 years has however.

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I think if we're doing "Caleb Williams completed that pass but inaccurately" then in all fairness we should likewise do "Caleb Williams threw an incomplete pass that was dropped". Call me crazy.

Fair point but don't selectively edit my statement. The inaccurate pass Knocked Him Out Of Bounds a yard short of the stick. You talked about inaccuracy downfield when he's inaccurate not downfield. And that pass in particular was unacceptable.

This assessment of Caleb and his abilities was incredibly stupid. Stupid at the time and even dumber as time has passed.

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I'll amend it to "he should have inaccurately thrown the completed pass softer". Better?

All those things are true of Caleb Williams. He has the talent to throw from different angles, and can throw with power and accuracy. No passer of any note has completed 100% of his passes, but trying to ding a QB for a completed pass is something else.

Bears fans are parents and Caleb is the youngest child they had late in life. What the oldest did got the belt, what the youngest did is cute.

He is literally one of the least accurate passers of the last 25 years. Which means he doesn't possess that "talent" or skill

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Cutler got the belt, Caleb gets a pat on the head.

Please Don't "Ding" him for being the 520th out of 530 least accurate passers over the past 24-25 years

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Cutler got plenty of similar excuses (O-Line, Tice, Martz). So did Mitch and Fields (including the exact same excuses from your new best friend). Come back to rational reality.