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I'm pissed at the money he gets for the next 3 years. I was hopeful the team would get cap relief next season because of a team friendly deal.


You don't know the cap hit yet, though. For example, there could be a signing bonus spread over multiple years.


If there isn't, what sense did it make not to just franchise him?

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Trestman may have supported the deal for Cutler to help guarantee his own security. If Cutler walked and Trestman was left with a new FA or rookie, and then regressed/failed, he may have been launched after a year. Now the Bears are almost forced to keep him 3-4 years, right?

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Trestman may have supported the deal for Cutler to help guarantee his own security. If Cutler walked and Trestman was left with a new FA or rookie, and then regressed/failed, he may have been launched after a year. Now the Bears are almost forced to keep him 3-4 years, right?

I don't think so. I think this is his guy. I think he completely believes in Cutler.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Cutler or not,the big question is how this affects the Bears in free agent signings for next season. A lot,a little. I don't want to read they can't bring in some big FA DT because of the Cutler contract.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Everyone should google image search "Jay Cutler" right now. Total meathead.


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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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RFDC wrote:
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Trestman may have supported the deal for Cutler to help guarantee his own security. If Cutler walked and Trestman was left with a new FA or rookie, and then regressed/failed, he may have been launched after a year. Now the Bears are almost forced to keep him 3-4 years, right?

I don't think so. I think this is his guy. I think he completely believes in Cutler.


Agreed RFDC.

Cutler is the guy that Emmery and Trestman have hitched their future to.

If he fails, they fail with him.

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A Venn diagram of people who hate Jay Cutler and people who demand the truth about Benghazi.


wouldnt that look like just one circle?

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Glad to have all 3 guys wrapped up this quickly.

I'd like to hear some numbers.

What is our official stance the next time Jay has a 4 INT game?

Don't think he's had one with Trestman as head coach.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Big mistake....the signing, not describing another one of Jay's Passes. The guy has a good arm and can make all the throws. he's a smart guy too. But he has a huge ego and makes bad decisions with the football far too often, because he believes he can make plays he shouldn't even be attempting. He's not young anymore. He is, what he is and that is, a guy who will get his team to the playoffs now and then, but never be able to avoid mistakes enough to win in the playoffs, except a single game here or there.

He avoided mistakes last Sunday -- and they still lost.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Russell Wilson was drafted late and worked out nicely. Romo was a free agent.
Russell Wilson was selected in the 3rd round.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Brian's Mojito wrote:
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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Glad to have all 3 guys wrapped up this quickly.

I'd like to hear some numbers.

What is our official stance the next time Jay has a 4 INT game?

Don't think he's had one with Trestman as head coach.

It's been 26 games since Jay went 4 INT's!


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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Forte is nearing 30 and is likely to start shutting down soon, Steve.


I expect Forte to lose a step next season.

Well hopefully it'll be the step that gets him arm tackled all the time.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Ok, so if that number is correct, that averages 18 million a year. I'm guessing the last 2 or 3 years are north of 20. So you can knock off a hefty portion of the contract. Then you add in a signing bonus that can can be spread out and the cap hit is going to be way under the franchise tag in 2014.


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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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I saw a piece on cutler the other day. I think it was jaws so take that for what it's worth. He was saying in real time jay has looked really good at times this year but when you get to the film room he is ignoring the progression and going where he wants wi the ball even though there were open reads to other players not named Marshall or Jeffrey. I have no idea how he knows what the correct read is but if he is correct you would have to assume trestman is a little pissed or at least concerned about it.

That might have to do with the fact Jay believes he needs to make big plays instead of just nickel-and-dime his way down the field.

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Brian's Mojito wrote:
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I saw a piece on cutler the other day. I think it was jaws so take that for what it's worth. He was saying in real time jay has looked really good at times this year but when you get to the film room he is ignoring the progression and going where he wants wi the ball even though there were open reads to other players not named Marshall or Jeffrey. I have no idea how he knows what the correct read is but if he is correct you would have to assume trestman is a little pissed or at least concerned about it.

That might have to do with the fact Jay believes he needs to make big plays instead of just nickel-and-dime his way down the field.

Whats wrong with nickel and diming down the field?

Joe Montana made it work. Tom Brady too.


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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Elmhurst Steve wrote:
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I'm just fine with this deal as long as Trestman is the guy who wants Cutler. If he feels he can win with Cutler as his QB, then we have no choice but to trust him.




What??? We have watched Cutler long enough to judge him. Judge his mechanics, judge his decision making. Whether Trestman feels he can win with him or not has little bearing on my judgement.

Did you pick up some extra painting gigs? Are you footing the bill for Jay's contract? If not, your judgement doesn't really matter.

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@RapSheet: #Bears QB Jay Cutler’s contract: 7 years, $126 million with $54M guaranteed.


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$54m guaranteed is the 7th most among NFL qbs. Behind Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Peyton, Brady, Romo.


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$54m guaranteed is the 7th most among NFL qbs. Behind Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Peyton, Brady, Romo.
:lol:

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There ya go. Rodgers money.

Dumb.

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@RapSheet: #Bears QB Jay Cutler’s contract: 7 years, $126 million with $54M guaranteed.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 7 yr deal for Cutler
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Cutler or not,the big question is how this affects the Bears in free agent signings for next season. A lot,a little. I don't want to read they can't bring in some big FA DT because of the Cutler contract.

I agree.

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There ya go. Rodgers money.

Dumb.


Not sure what that means. Rodgers averages $22mm and gets $62.5 guaranteed.


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Bucky Chris wrote:
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$54m guaranteed is the 7th most among NFL qbs. Behind Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, Peyton, Brady, Romo.

And he deleted the tweet I posted earlier where he said it was 2nd overall


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So, Jay Cutler is only surpassed in payouts by future hall of famers, Matt Ryan and Tony Romo? :lol:

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Not sure what that means. Rodgers averages $22mm and gets $62.5 guaranteed.
And he has a boyfriend.


$1million for each point the Eagles put up 2 weeks ago.
No, hockey gay. Not even close;
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I saw a piece on cutler the other day. I think it was jaws so take that for what it's worth. He was saying in real time jay has looked really good at times this year but when you get to the film room he is ignoring the progression and going where he wants wi the ball even though there were open reads to other players not named Marshall or Jeffrey. I have no idea how he knows what the correct read is but if he is correct you would have to assume trestman is a little pissed or at least concerned about it.

That might have to do with the fact Jay believes he needs to make big plays instead of just nickel-and-dime his way down the field.

Whats wrong with nickel and diming down the field?

Joe Montana made it work. Tom Brady too.

Montana didn't have an arm like Cutler. The Niner great did what he was able to do.
When Brady had the weapon (Randy Moss), he went deep. It's more about your weapons and your arm strength.

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