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I hope Trevor Siemian plays this week so we can see if the offensive line is really as bad as it seems or if it's mostly about the quarterback not getting the ball out quick enough.


I've never seen Siemian play but I'd say that he will probably be killed in that game. Mustipher and whoever plays right guard are maybe the worst two pass blocking players in any offensive line-up in the NFL.

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Dilfer is annoying with his buckets gimmick.

Even a just ok guest talking 75% of a segment is vastly more listenable than Parkins & Spiegel by themselves (now with only 25% to share).


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Rozner never understood how ridiculous he looked with that, as Mccown played another six years, started 38 more times and earned the most money in his career

Yeah, but that was par for Rozner's sports thoughts.


That's the kind of stuff that makes WSCR unlistenable, it used to be the go to place for Bears content, now it's just a bunch of guys reading the Bears section here for original Bears thoughts. Rozner would have been endlessly belittled for his takes when the station actually allowed hosts/callers to bust the balls of the arrogant newspaper goofs.


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We're going to be told Fields was inaccurate because his left shoulder is sore.


At this point he looks like a punch drunk fighter after taking a beating for 10 rounds, expect a few more business decision from Fields during the remaining meaningless games.


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We're going to be told Fields was inaccurate because his left shoulder is sore.


At this point he looks like a punch drunk fighter after taking a beating for 10 rounds, expect a few more business decision from Fields during the remaining meaningless games.

It does kinda look that way.


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That shoulder may end his season. It sounds painful.

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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?


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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.

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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.

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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.


Having the arm to make every throw is different than making every throw. Fields has accuracy issues at every level. MANY of your least favorite Bears quarterbacks didn't have that problem.

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Is there anything to the Josh Allen Theory that we've been hearing? Getting hit in the pocket is much worse than getting hit in the open field, where you have the chance to pick and choose how you get hit?

Well we know RBs have a shorter career as do running QBs.

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Brick wrote:
vitoscotti wrote:
It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.

You have a strange obsession with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is clearly a better passer than Fields through 2 years and Fields has the benefit of the defense playing the run and caring very little about the pass.

If Fields could make high level NFL throws his passing stats wouldn't be so horrible and the team wouldn't be actively limiting his throws.

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He can make the throws he just can't think fast enough to make the throws so he can't make the throws if that's what you mean

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Nas wrote:
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Brick wrote:
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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.


Having the arm to make every throw is different than making every throw. Fields has accuracy issues at every level. MANY of your least favorite Bears quarterbacks didn't have that problem.



What quarterback makes every throw? That quarterback doesn't exist and never has. It's ridiculous to say that he has accuracy issues at every level.

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Brick wrote:
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Brick wrote:
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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.

You have a strange obsession with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is clearly a better passer than Fields through 2 years and Fields has the benefit of the defense playing the run and caring very little about the pass.

If Fields could make high level NFL throws his passing stats wouldn't be so horrible and the team wouldn't be actively limiting his throws.



You are clearly wrong about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky versus Fields. First of all, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started many more games than Fields in his two years as a QB and Fields despite a rough start has a better QB RATING and has scored 20 TDs in 11 games versus (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had 27 in 16 games in his second year along with many less turnovers.

In addition, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has clearly FAILED as a starting quarterback. His QB rating for Pittsburgh is 50 for this season. And he had a better offensive line both in Chicago and Pittsburgh. For the record, also, I thought that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has been badly coached at both places but to say Turbisky is better than Fields is laughable.

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He can make the throws he just can't think fast enough to make the throws so he can't make the throws if that's what you mean


I don't know about that. He's fast enough on most of his throws. It looks to me that he is afraid to let it go on the intermediate middle of field passes. I think that is understandable for a young qb and when you add the pressure that he faces on the longer routes he probably fears interceptions.

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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.

You have a strange obsession with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is clearly a better passer than Fields through 2 years and Fields has the benefit of the defense playing the run and caring very little about the pass.

If Fields could make high level NFL throws his passing stats wouldn't be so horrible and the team wouldn't be actively limiting his throws.



You are clearly wrong about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky versus Fields. First of all, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started many more games than Fields in his two years as a QB and Fields despite a rough start has a better QB RATING and has scored 20 TDs in 11 games versus (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had 27 in 16 games in his second year along with many less turnovers.

In addition, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has clearly FAILED as a starting quarterback. His QB rating for Pittsburgh is 50 for this season. And he had a better offensive line both in Chicago and Pittsburgh. For the record, also, I thought that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has been badly coached at both places but to say Turbisky is better than Fields is laughable.

We are talking about Fields throwing the ball and you included rushing stats and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky only played 14 games in his second year.

The fact that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky failed doesn't mean Fields can continue to be a poor passer and make it unless he's running for 100 yards a game.

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There is a chance (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky would have believed Nagy if he had told him there were 2 minutes left in the game every time he touched the ball.

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There is a chance (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky would have believed Nagy if he had told him there were 2 minutes left in the game every time he touched the ball.


Nagy is right where he belongs, fetching coffee for Andy Reid and holding the tablet at the appropriate height for everyone to see the plays that he had no part in designing or developing while keeping a spot on the bench warm.


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There is a chance (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky would have believed Nagy if he had told him there were 2 minutes left in the game every time he touched the ball.


Nagy is right where he belongs, fetching coffee for Andy Reid and holding the tablet at the appropriate height for everyone to see the plays that he had no part in designing or developing while keeping a spot on the bench warm.


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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.

You have a strange obsession with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is clearly a better passer than Fields through 2 years and Fields has the benefit of the defense playing the run and caring very little about the pass.

If Fields could make high level NFL throws his passing stats wouldn't be so horrible and the team wouldn't be actively limiting his throws.



You are clearly wrong about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky versus Fields. First of all, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky started many more games than Fields in his two years as a QB and Fields despite a rough start has a better QB RATING and has scored 20 TDs in 11 games versus (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had 27 in 16 games in his second year along with many less turnovers.

In addition, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has clearly FAILED as a starting quarterback. His QB rating for Pittsburgh is 50 for this season. And he had a better offensive line both in Chicago and Pittsburgh. For the record, also, I thought that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky has been badly coached at both places but to say Turbisky is better than Fields is laughable.


We are talking about Fields throwing the ball and you included rushing stats and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky only played 14 games in his second year.

The fact that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky failed doesn't mean Fields can continue to be a poor passer and make it unless he's running for 100 yards a game.


Yardage is yardage and TDs are TDs. You just are selectively pulling out the stats that favor your argument and overlook the overall success that Fields has had as an NFL quarterback versus the failure that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is as one.

Frankly I have no idea why you have decided to argue this nonsense that Fields is a poor passer and not being as good as (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who has already failed as a NFL quarterback. Maybe you are just a guy who would argue that the Sun won't come out tomorrow just to get people to argue with you about it. The entire NFL is talking about what a great find Fields is as a young quarterback and wondering what his ceiling is going to be when they get some weapons to work with and some blockers to protect him. But here you are on a silly mission to try and convince others that he is projecting as a worse quarterback to an already failed Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. Amazing.

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Yardage is yardage and TDs are TDs. You just are selectively pulling out the stats that favor your argument and overlook the overall success that Fields has had as an NFL quarterback versus the failure that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is as one.

Frankly I have no idea why you have decided to argue this nonsense that Fields is a poor passer and not being as good as (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky who has already failed as a NFL quarterback. Maybe you are just a guy who would argue that the Sun won't come out tomorrow just to get people to argue with you about it. The entire NFL is talking about what a great find Fields is as a young quarterback and wondering what his ceiling is going to be when they get some weapons to work with and some blockers to protect him. But here you are on a silly mission to try and convince others that he is projecting as a worse quarterback to an already failed Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. Amazing.

He's not going to sustain a career running for 100 yards a game and passing so poorly. He's really bad at passing now.

I am not selectively using stats. I'm using passing stats because his running is not sustainable long term.

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Did I see Michigan is still ranked below Ohio?! How the fuck

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Did I see Michigan is still ranked below Ohio?! How the fuck

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Josh McCown on W & S was upbeat on Fields but brought up the Ohio St QB (in the NFL) stigma. "You always wonder if they can sit back there and get it done."

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It's a bad look Getsy threw Fields to the wolves with a strategy of consistently having Fields take on tacklers head-on to further aid his head coaching aspirations. Would Poles have ok'd the avoidable beating Fields took if he was his guy drafted by him?

Well it's not like they could trust him to throw.



Maybe it's less about throwing because it appears he can make most high level NFL throws, unlike a (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or others who struggle eith completing more difficult throws. It's rather just getting rid of the ball quicker which speaks to a decision making issue.

You have a strange obsession with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is clearly a better passer than Fields through 2 years and Fields has the benefit of the defense playing the run and caring very little about the pass.

If Fields could make high level NFL throws his passing stats wouldn't be so horrible and the team wouldn't be actively limiting his throws.


Mitch was a bitch, he wasn't so soft he would have ran for 75 yards a game..that's why he continues to ride the pine.

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