Quinn- will demand more attention than Floyd did, but doesn't provide the ability to cover the field like Floyd did.
Foles- Has played in Nagy's system and is reunited with some coaches he has worked with in the past. He'll be the starting QB.
Graham- Not a fan anymore, but he might be the best option right now.

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There is no way he was the best option right now.

Ebron signed with the Steelers today for less money and he is younger. They are pretty much the same player right now.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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No they aren't. Eric Ebron is significantly better

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Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

I was basing that on production last year. They were pretty similar.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Now do 2018

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

TDs were way more...but other than that they were pretty similar

I agree with you in the big picture. Ebron is the better player and the Bears were stupid for signing Graham to a contract for more money

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

Best option on the Bears.

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When he shows up to play.

Which is infrequent at best over his career.

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Ebron has all sorts of warts in his personality and play. Still, at least there is a chance that he can be great and he was cheaper and he might block once in a while.

Still Ebron has such a low catch percentage, even in his best years, that you have to feed him the ball just to be viable.

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I think Graham is the better short term play right now. Ebron hasn't really proven much outside of 2018 where Andrew Luck threw for 40 TDs. Ebron would get lost in the mix and wouldn't expect much out of him playing with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky or even Foles. Graham and Ebron are both bad plays, but for the short term, I would take Graham.

What do you predict sacks to be for Mack and Quinn?

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If they both stay healthy and play all 16 games, I would predict 16 for Mack, 10 for Quinn.

I'm thinking if both play 16 games.

Mack- 17
Quinn-14

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Graham doesn't block, which is a much bigger deal than anyone seems to realize. Even if he is the same player he was seven years, which he clearly is not, that version of Jimmy Graham is not as valuable now as it was then. He does not to help the run game.

It was a terrible signing.

I hated Floyd so much, dude was virtually useless. He was in the best position to look good and was unable. I hated the " he's good in coverage" horseshit almost as much, every team that played the bears got rid of the ball so quickly it wasn't much to ask to cover a guy for 5 yards when you give him a 3 yard cushion. Mack impacts the game so many ways that never show up on a stat sheet..watch a competent defender clean up playing on the other side of him.

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Not saying its directly related, but notice how Macks stats in his first year here in 2018, and first half of the season in 2019, took a huge drop especially in sacks when Akiem Hicks was injured in the 2nd half of 2019.

Hicks is a hell of a player, last year Mack was game planned against every week.. they ran away from him or rolled out the other way, they did mostly 3 step drops.. adding Quinn is going to change everything. A healthy Hicks puts us the best D in the NFL.

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Thats absolutely true about Hicks. When they lost him, they were able to double and sometimes triple team Mack. Just getting back a healthy Hicks will mean a lot to the Bear's defense. I still worry about the defensive backfield. Dix gets slammed a lot but he is a good db and they need to find someone somewhere to fill his spot.

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Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I’ll say

Mack - 12
Quinn - 8

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I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
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FF is probably about right. Mack simply isn't the player he was in 2018 anymore and Quinn is one of the most obvious "fall of a cliff" candidates in the whole NFL. But, the Bears still boast one of the best coverage units in the league so someone will pick up a few sacks.

I think Mack rebounds this year and has another 15+ sack pro bowl season. If Mack and Hicks stay healthy all year, Quinn will be average at worst.... or he could put up numbers similar to Mack. It would be hard for Quinn to "fall of a cliff" as you say while playing in this defense.

Not really. Quinn had big sack numbers in a contract year.

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Yes.... he had 12 sacks in 14 games last year. While I would not expect him to duplicate that rate this year, I still think he will be productive. If he plays all 16 games, 10-12 sacks is realistic.

Most of the Quinn sacks look to be on outside speed rushes teams will not be able to slide protection or put a TE on his side with Mack playing opposite. This should really open opportunities inside for games and LB/S blitzers should be able to come free, hopefully Pagano will be creative this year. Too bad there isn't cap room to bring in an interior guy like Suh to rush from the inside on passing downs. However, it all gets down to the offenses ability to at least put together longer drives which will keep the rapidly aging D fresh and allow Quinn and Mack to put up 8-10 sacks each.

None of this matters if Charles Leno and Bobbie Massie are starting at the tackles.

I expect 20-25 combined sacks from them. But they will also cause an increase of sack numbers from the dt group

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yep. This has been my position all off-season. it looks like the Bears have done everything in their power to ensure those 2 turnstyles remain starters. woof.

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Pace fucked us, he restructured leno deal last year and gave Massie a 4 year year deal last season.. I think both will be a bit better this year but neither deserved new deals.. we we're stuck with these guys.

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YOu guys are absolutely right. Pace and the Bears really screwed the Bears and their offense with those contracts they gave to two worthless tubs of goo. I wonder what if any input Nagy had on those two decisions?

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

hicks averaged 7.5 sacks during his first 3 years with the bears. as long as all these 30+ year old defenders stay on the field the defense will be elite! and we all know having to significantly rely on 30+ year old NFL players always ends well !