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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:36 pm 
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The Pats and Giants are charging hard.


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Patriots and Giants play in two weeks

Someone has to win, I think


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Wasn't Nas a big Mac Jones guy?


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Should be quite a run on QB's again which could give you a chance to pick your guy with your first pick and pick up some extra draft capital while just moving back a few slots and still getting a shot at one of the OT's.


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Giants got #1 locked up, everyone else is playing for #2


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Do have to say that our UDFA QB looks better than the Giants UDFA QB.

Not much, but from the HC on down the G-Men looked like they did not think they had any chance to win in Dallas, at least the Bears players seem to respect Bagent, even with his limitations, so we do have a decent backup for next year.

Panthers must be realizing that they really screwed up by drafting Young at #1, and they do not have any draft capital to build around him, Texans appear to have totally outsmarted them.


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I've had a long standing tradition of being against drafting WR's high in the first round. Marvin Harrison, Jr is destroying that mentality for me. The overall number 1 pick looks to be a dog fight between more teams than usual. It was first going to be Carolina, Arizona, and the Bears. Here come the Patriots, Giants, Titans, and Broncos to the mix. It seems there are more teams than usual fighting it out for the bottom of the barrel this year.

yes, there will be over-reaching on QB's, but I don't see Marvin making it past the 2nd pick. Even if Carolina finishes worse than the Bears...it's highly possible that pick will max out at 3. The Giants, Arizona look even worse than both the Bears and Panthers.

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The Giants have quit halfway through the season, and that is a really bad look for a coach. That game yesterday was virtually unwatchable. A small handful of guys looked like they were trying, everyone else looked like they were ready for the season to be over already. Any win from this point out would be a massive upset. And they haven't even played the Eagles yet.


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The Giants have quit halfway through the season, and that is a really bad look for a coach. That game yesterday was virtually unwatchable. A small handful of guys looked like they were trying, everyone else looked like they were ready for the season to be over already. Any win from this point out would be a massive upset. And they haven't even played the Eagles yet.

Daboll looks like he hates that team more than anybody. Every sideline shot he looks like a disappointed tv sitcom dad.

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he looked lost and afraid to me.


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I've had a long standing tradition of being against drafting WR's high in the first round. Marvin Harrison, Jr is destroying that mentality for me. The overall number 1 pick looks to be a dog fight between more teams than usual. It was first going to be Carolina, Arizona, and the Bears. Here come the Patriots, Giants, Titans, and Broncos to the mix. It seems there are more teams than usual fighting it out for the bottom of the barrel this year.

yes, there will be over-reaching on QB's, but I don't see Marvin making it past the 2nd pick. Even if Carolina finishes worse than the Bears...it's highly possible that pick will max out at 3. The Giants, Arizona look even worse than both the Bears and Panthers.


The old draft mindset used to be that when you have a top 10 pick you should always draft someone that lines up within 10 feet of the QB, so QB or offensive/defensive lineman, they impact the game on every play and having top level talent there is essential.

The rules of course have changed to favor the offense, so a top WR changes things because he will draw PI, holding, or illegal contact penalties anytime the ball is put in his vicinity, you see the top QB's using this as a bail out mechanism all the time late in games, Brady got these type calls all day.

Franchise level LT's also change the game, look at San Fran without Trent Williams, a totally different team.

Still think you take the Penn State OT if he is there with your second first round pick, you add a good center and you have a very solid offensive line which would make life easier for your QB.


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Thanks Denver!

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Worth the terrible game to see... whatever that was at the end.

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Nas wrote:
Thanks Denver!

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Worth the terrible game to see... whatever that was at the end.


That was an insane ending.

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I think the Pats have enough where they won't be in the mix for #1. The Giants are the team that has declared the full on tank is happening. What we really need from them is Tommy Devito getting injured so they have to go back to Tyrod Taylor.

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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pats have enough where they won't be in the mix for #1. The Giants are the team that has declared the full on tank is happening. What we really need from them is Tommy Devito getting injured so they have to go back to Tyrod Taylor.


I agree the Giants are awful, and the biggest threat to Carolina's pick. They are -148 in points. Pats a distant second at -97.

I will say, the Pats are pretty bad, and if Belicheck is staying, he knows a year of tanking isn't getting him fired. Belicheck definitely isn't going to pull a Lovie, and go all out trying to win a week 18 game.


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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pats have enough where they won't be in the mix for #1. The Giants are the team that has declared the full on tank is happening. What we really need from them is Tommy Devito getting injured so they have to go back to Tyrod Taylor.


I agree the Giants are awful, and the biggest threat to Carolina's pick. They are -148 in points. Pats a distant second at -97.

I will say, the Pats are pretty bad, and if Belicheck is staying, he knows a year of tanking isn't getting him fired. Belicheck definitely isn't going to pull a Lovie, and go all out trying to win a week 18 game.


Belichick will be gone after the season.

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It should have been obvious a couple of weeks ago Denver was not a threat for a top pick. Sean Payton can coach, Bears should have canned Flus and hired Payton when they had the chance.


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They should hire Bellichick to replace Poles, and Harbaugh for HC.

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It should have been obvious a couple of weeks ago Denver was not a threat for a top pick. Sean Payton can coach, Bears should have canned Flus and hired Payton when they had the chance.

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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pats have enough where they won't be in the mix for #1. The Giants are the team that has declared the full on tank is happening. What we really need from them is Tommy Devito getting injured so they have to go back to Tyrod Taylor.


I agree the Giants are awful, and the biggest threat to Carolina's pick. They are -148 in points. Pats a distant second at -97.

I will say, the Pats are pretty bad, and if Belicheck is staying, he knows a year of tanking isn't getting him fired. Belicheck definitely isn't going to pull a Lovie, and go all out trying to win a week 18 game.


Giants are the biggest threat. I will be rooting for them vs. the Patriots in that upcoming epic battle.


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The Patriots are dreadful, and appear to have 3 primetime games still on the docket. Those crummy games need to be flexed out.


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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pats have enough where they won't be in the mix for #1. The Giants are the team that has declared the full on tank is happening. What we really need from them is Tommy Devito getting injured so they have to go back to Tyrod Taylor.

Tyrod Taylor has been hurt, that the only reason DeVito is playing. They didn't choose to go to DeVito over Taylor. As soon as Taylor is healthy DeVito is history. The scary thing about the Giants is that they haven't been tanking. They are just this bad.


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Yes the Giants suck, thank you for reminding us on a daily basis


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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pats have enough where they won't be in the mix for #1. The Giants are the team that has declared the full on tank is happening. What we really need from them is Tommy Devito getting injured so they have to go back to Tyrod Taylor.

Tyrod Taylor has been hurt, that the only reason DeVito is playing. They didn't choose to go to DeVito over Taylor. As soon as Taylor is healthy DeVito is history. The scary thing about the Giants is that they haven't been tanking. They are just this bad.


Taylor is going to be out for at least the next two weeks, it may be 3 weeks (not completely sure, but he was placed on IR meaning 4 weeks). They would have to go back to Taylor if he comes back this season because DeVito is so bad that even if you're tanking, you have to at least go with a QB who can throw a pass. Just hope that Taylor is able to get back in the next 2-3 weeks before they begin moving into off-season/get healthy mode.


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Yes the Giants suck, thank you for reminding us on a daily basis

Thank you for reminding everyone what a dumbass you are on a post-by-post basis.


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good dolphin wrote:
I think the Pats have enough where they won't be in the mix for #1. The Giants are the team that has declared the full on tank is happening. What we really need from them is Tommy Devito getting injured so they have to go back to Tyrod Taylor.

Tyrod Taylor has been hurt, that the only reason DeVito is playing. They didn't choose to go to DeVito over Taylor. As soon as Taylor is healthy DeVito is history. The scary thing about the Giants is that they haven't been tanking. They are just this bad.


Taylor is going to be out for at least the next two weeks, it may be 3 weeks (not completely sure, but he was placed on IR meaning 4 weeks). They would have to go back to Taylor if he comes back this season because DeVito is so bad that even if you're tanking, you have to at least go with a QB who can throw a pass. Just hope that Taylor is able to get back in the next 2-3 weeks before they begin moving into off-season/get healthy mode.

Devito has one more TD pass this season than Daniel Jones, in 106 fewer pass attempts.


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I believe you insisted the Giants had no choice but to pay Daniel Jones, just last year.


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I believe you insisted the Giants had no choice but to pay Daniel Jones, just last year.

They didn't, they were committed to him after the success the team had last year. I would have preferred it have been in the form of the franchise tag, but as a fan you don't always get what you want.


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