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This mock has the Bears taking the DT Donald one spot behind the player I think they should draft, Clinton-Dix.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2028670-nfl-mock-draft-2014-updated-selections-and-record-projections-for-each-team





Thats who I'd like to see the Bears land as well. It depends on what falls to them tho, but if CD is there at 14, thats where they should go imo.

There is no bigger need ImO.

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I think he is going to be great but it will never be enough for the fans of any team who drafts him

Completely agree, and especially if one of the QBs in this draft becomes an all timer.

You don't think the fans have a right to be pissed if one of the QBs becomes an all timer? I'm guessing you would definitely agree QB is a 10x bigger need for Houston right now.


I see Clowney having a Julius Peppers career. If I can't be pissed about Long being picked over guys at more important positions than no fan could be pissed about a Clowney pick under that scenario.

That's wrong. It's not an apples to apples comparison. Hitting on a top 5 QB cant be compared to hitting on an interior lineman, or really any position in football. If the Texans hit on Clowney and get terrible production from QB, they are maxing out at 6 wins next year. If they hit on a QB, and get bad production from the end opposite of Watt, they probably win 11+ games and are a perennial contender immediately. Unless they are absolutely certain that none of the QBs have potential to be top 10 QBs, they need to draft one. And even then, if they are wrong, they deserve all the shit they get for it.

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I think it is more important to hit on a sure thing at #1. If Clowney truly does become Peppers 2.0 then he is worth the #1 pick.

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Apparently, Mel Kiper doesn't think Teddy Bridgewater will be taken in the 1st round anymore. I mean the kid doesn't have a big arm, but he's worthy of the 1st round IMO.

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This mock has the Bears taking the DT Donald one spot behind the player I think they should draft, Clinton-Dix.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2028670-nfl-mock-draft-2014-updated-selections-and-record-projections-for-each-team





Thats who I'd like to see the Bears land as well. It depends on what falls to them tho, but if CD is there at 14, thats where they should go imo.


Based on some of the recent mock's, it looks like he will be gone before the Bears pick. Will be interesting to see what they do if Pryor is the best safety on the board at 14, and Clinton-Dix, Donald and Fuller are off the board.


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If CD is off the board at 14, Bears should trade back into the twenties and gather a few extra picks while still being able to draft a starting safety.

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If CD is off the board at 14, Bears should trade back into the twenties and gather a few extra picks while still being able to draft a starting safety.


In this draft, I'm completely open to moving back 8 or 9 spots for an extra 3rd round pick; however this draft is considered so deep that many teams may not want to move extra picks.

Safety is the only position on the roster where a 1st or 2nd round pick (maybe a 3rd rounder) would be expected to start on Day 1, but I'd love get another young CB, DT and MLB in this draft on the defensive side. They are going to add 1 RB in this draft and hopefully another TE as well.


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Agree BD. It will be hard to trade for an extra pick in the first three rounds. The Bears need to go defensive with the first half of their picks. There will def be quality RBs on day 3.

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Assuming Donald is gone, Calvin Pryor is the guy I want for the Bears. The more I read and see of him the more I like him

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Here is my "Adam Hoge Super Ignatian Mocking The Mocks One Week Before The Draft Mock"

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt- unique pass rush skills for a DT, undersized and may present problems against power running teams but pussy Eddie Lacey is overrated and fat
2. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU- comes from a school for functional illiterates but the guy can cover like a CB which is what I want in a safety in the modern NF of L
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Neb- huge CB to take over for Peanut when he retires/breaks down, a little bit of a work in progress so the year gives him time
4. Yawin Smallwood, MLB, Conn- can run like the wind and play three downs, a little light and when teamed with Donald it means that Fat Eddie might Avg 3.5 YPC rather than 3
5. Antuone Exum, S/CB, VT- inured last year but another huge DB with CB skills and S size, taking a risk with an injured player but if this and Jean Baptiste hit, you suddenly have a defensive backfield to rival the Seahawks in size
6. David Fales, QB, SJSU- Local yokel Dr. Ken called this one six months ago. Fales is a Trestman guy with a very high completion percentage but not a great arm. With his last name I wouldn't be surprised if Theo drafted him next month. Maybe Coast returns to this site full time to talk about him
6b. Pat O'Donnell- the diaspora of jewish bears continues as Carimi and now Podlesh are gone. Obviously Trestman is self loathing.

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That is awesome, GD.

The lack of talk regarding the bears drafting a QB is odd. Cutler is on basically a 4 year deal and i'd think it would be smart for trestman to pick a guy and develop him.

Of course, I thought the same thing last year.


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That is awesome, GD.

The lack of talk regarding the bears drafting a QB is odd. Cutler is on basically a 4 year deal and i'd think it would be smart for trestman to pick a guy and develop him.

Of course, I thought the same thing last year.


rookie contracts are four year deals outside of the first round and they will not take a qb in the first therefore it is probably 1-2 years too early to draft Cutler's replacement

I think ideally you would draft a guy in 2016 and have him move up the charts to starter in 2019.

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Here is my "Adam Hoge Super Ignatian Mocking The Mocks One Week Before The Draft Mock"

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt- unique pass rush skills for a DT, undersized and may present problems against power running teams but pussy Eddie Lacey is overrated and fat
2. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU- comes from a school for functional illiterates but the guy can cover like a CB which is what I want in a safety in the modern NF of L
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Neb- huge CB to take over for Peanut when he retires/breaks down, a little bit of a work in progress so the year gives him time
4. Yawin Smallwood, MLB, Conn- can run like the wind and play three downs, a little light and when teamed with Donald it means that Fat Eddie might Avg 3.5 YPC rather than 3
5. Antuone Exum, S/CB, VT- inured last year but another huge DB with CB skills and S size, taking a risk with an injured player but if this and Jean Baptiste hit, you suddenly have a defensive backfield to rival the Seahawks in size
6. David Fales, QB, SJSU- Local yokel Dr. Ken called this one six months ago. Fales is a Trestman guy with a very high completion percentage but not a great arm. With his last name I wouldn't be surprised if Theo drafted him next month. Maybe Coast returns to this site full time to talk about him
6b. Pat O'Donnell- the diaspora of jewish bears continues as Carimi and now Podlesh are gone. Obviously Trestman is self loathing.

Donald and Ward are too naturally instinctive to be Emery picks. He prefers blank slate athletes who he can slot out of position in the NFL


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Here is my "Adam Hoge Super Ignatian Mocking The Mocks One Week Before The Draft Mock"

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt- unique pass rush skills for a DT, undersized and may present problems against power running teams but pussy Eddie Lacey is overrated and fat
2. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU- comes from a school for functional illiterates but the guy can cover like a CB which is what I want in a safety in the modern NF of L
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Neb- huge CB to take over for Peanut when he retires/breaks down, a little bit of a work in progress so the year gives him time
4. Yawin Smallwood, MLB, Conn- can run like the wind and play three downs, a little light and when teamed with Donald it means that Fat Eddie might Avg 3.5 YPC rather than 3
5. Antuone Exum, S/CB, VT- inured last year but another huge DB with CB skills and S size, taking a risk with an injured player but if this and Jean Baptiste hit, you suddenly have a defensive backfield to rival the Seahawks in size
6. David Fales, QB, SJSU- Local yokel Dr. Ken called this one six months ago. Fales is a Trestman guy with a very high completion percentage but not a great arm. With his last name I wouldn't be surprised if Theo drafted him next month. Maybe Coast returns to this site full time to talk about him
6b. Pat O'Donnell- the diaspora of jewish bears continues as Carimi and now Podlesh are gone. Obviously Trestman is self loathing.

Donald and Ward are too naturally instinctive to be Emery picks. He prefers blank slate athletes who he can slot out of position in the NFL

Plus Ward will be gone by the middle of the 2nd round.

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good dolphin wrote:
Here is my "Adam Hoge Super Ignatian Mocking The Mocks One Week Before The Draft Mock"

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt- unique pass rush skills for a DT, undersized and may present problems against power running teams but pussy Eddie Lacey is overrated and fat
2. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU- comes from a school for functional illiterates but the guy can cover like a CB which is what I want in a safety in the modern NF of L
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Neb- huge CB to take over for Peanut when he retires/breaks down, a little bit of a work in progress so the year gives him time
4. Yawin Smallwood, MLB, Conn- can run like the wind and play three downs, a little light and when teamed with Donald it means that Fat Eddie might Avg 3.5 YPC rather than 3
5. Antuone Exum, S/CB, VT- inured last year but another huge DB with CB skills and S size, taking a risk with an injured player but if this and Jean Baptiste hit, you suddenly have a defensive backfield to rival the Seahawks in size
6. David Fales, QB, SJSU- Local yokel Dr. Ken called this one six months ago. Fales is a Trestman guy with a very high completion percentage but not a great arm. With his last name I wouldn't be surprised if Theo drafted him next month. Maybe Coast returns to this site full time to talk about him
6b. Pat O'Donnell- the diaspora of jewish bears continues as Carimi and now Podlesh are gone. Obviously Trestman is self loathing.

Donald and Ward are too naturally instinctive to be Emery picks. He prefers blank slate athletes who he can slot out of position in the NFL

Plus Ward will be gone by the middle of the 2nd round.


which is where the Bears draft...certainly not outside the realm of possibility on a mock

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good dolphin wrote:
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Here is my "Adam Hoge Super Ignatian Mocking The Mocks One Week Before The Draft Mock"

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt- unique pass rush skills for a DT, undersized and may present problems against power running teams but pussy Eddie Lacey is overrated and fat
2. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU- comes from a school for functional illiterates but the guy can cover like a CB which is what I want in a safety in the modern NF of L
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Neb- huge CB to take over for Peanut when he retires/breaks down, a little bit of a work in progress so the year gives him time
4. Yawin Smallwood, MLB, Conn- can run like the wind and play three downs, a little light and when teamed with Donald it means that Fat Eddie might Avg 3.5 YPC rather than 3
5. Antuone Exum, S/CB, VT- inured last year but another huge DB with CB skills and S size, taking a risk with an injured player but if this and Jean Baptiste hit, you suddenly have a defensive backfield to rival the Seahawks in size
6. David Fales, QB, SJSU- Local yokel Dr. Ken called this one six months ago. Fales is a Trestman guy with a very high completion percentage but not a great arm. With his last name I wouldn't be surprised if Theo drafted him next month. Maybe Coast returns to this site full time to talk about him
6b. Pat O'Donnell- the diaspora of jewish bears continues as Carimi and now Podlesh are gone. Obviously Trestman is self loathing.

Donald and Ward are too naturally instinctive to be Emery picks. He prefers blank slate athletes who he can slot out of position in the NFL

Plus Ward will be gone by the middle of the 2nd round.


which is where the Bears draft...certainly not outside the realm of possibility on a mock

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Did you not read the title of the my mock? I have full freedom to do what I want. Anyway, if I don't get Ward I replace him with Lamarcus Joyner who is also on the smaller side but packs enough of a wallop to push Fat Eddie's shit in should he get past Donald and Smallwood.

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Here is my "Adam Hoge Super Ignatian Mocking The Mocks One Week Before The Draft Mock"

1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt- unique pass rush skills for a DT, undersized and may present problems against power running teams but pussy Eddie Lacey is overrated and fat
2. Jimmie Ward, S, NIU- comes from a school for functional illiterates but the guy can cover like a CB which is what I want in a safety in the modern NF of L
3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Neb- huge CB to take over for Peanut when he retires/breaks down, a little bit of a work in progress so the year gives him time
4. Yawin Smallwood, MLB, Conn- can run like the wind and play three downs, a little light and when teamed with Donald it means that Fat Eddie might Avg 3.5 YPC rather than 3
5. Antuone Exum, S/CB, VT- inured last year but another huge DB with CB skills and S size, taking a risk with an injured player but if this and Jean Baptiste hit, you suddenly have a defensive backfield to rival the Seahawks in size
6. David Fales, QB, SJSU- Local yokel Dr. Ken called this one six months ago. Fales is a Trestman guy with a very high completion percentage but not a great arm. With his last name I wouldn't be surprised if Theo drafted him next month. Maybe Coast returns to this site full time to talk about him
6b. Pat O'Donnell- the diaspora of jewish bears continues as Carimi and now Podlesh are gone. Obviously Trestman is self loathing.

Donald and Ward are too naturally instinctive to be Emery picks. He prefers blank slate athletes who he can slot out of position in the NFL

Plus Ward will be gone by the middle of the 2nd round.


which is where the Bears draft...certainly not outside the realm of possibility on a mock

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1. Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt- everyone seems to fallen into lockstep with Emery that he will be gone. I really don't think that is true. He has some eye popping skills but on draft day you cannot get around that he is an interior guy who lacks size. He will be there. He will be a Bear.

2. Lamarcus Joyner, S, FSU- this is going to be the draft of the versatile DB for the Bears. The guy would be a first round pick if he weren't shorter than Dan Bernstein at 5'8". However, he still packs a wallop in run support for his size. He is fast with CB coverage skills, as he has played every position in the DB. He kind of reminds me of DJ Moore in his blitzing run support skills and size but is MUCH faster. The problem much like Donald is his height. Like Donald, he falls and we scoop him up.

3. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Neb- we took two small guys who hit a ton in the first two rounds. Now we take a huge guy (6'3", 218) who plays soft. This is going to be Peanut's pupil as I think he is a bit of a work in progress. Some think his game speed doesn't match his 4.55 40. I think he will flourish in the type of zone coverage the Bears like to use. He is not a starter on Day 1. He probably isn't even a nickel on Day 1. Luckily the Bears already have options in those areas and he will learn.

4. Colt Lyerla- TE, Oregon- Did somebody say coke? First round skills as both a blocker and receiver. He never really produced on the field at that level. Then there was the drug bust. Then there was the opting out of playing for a flu no one else in Oregon seemed to know he had. Then there was the quitting the team. He's already switched agents. There is zero stability here with no indication that his act is clean. Honestly, I think he does not get drafted and ends up like so many of my UDFA calls that ended up making it in the NFL over the past few years.

5. Antone Exum, CB/S, VT- another versatile DB who has played every position in the backfield. I see him as a safety at 6' 213.

6. Isiah Cromwell, RB, Georgia SOuthern- Colt needs a running partner and who better than a football player who got kicked out of UGA after being a top freshman?

7. DeDe Lattimore, MLB, USF- I really love the defense they teach at USF. This is a another guy who is just a little small but with huge production at a good school for teaching defense.

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I bet Donald is there at 14, but Emery does NOT take him.


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Fwiw if a team like the Bear don't take a flyer on Aaron Murray in the late 3rd/4th round, they're nuts. But (and yes, this is a big one) for his injury, I think he is/was worlds better than any of the QBs being overloved in this draft hype. Especially as a projected pro. Get him for short end cash, and then you can avoid all short term controversy (2yrs) as he's going to sit on IR for a year to shadow the coach. Hell, I want the Saints to grab him if he's there.

I see Manziel as the reincarnation of Ryan Leaf. I cannot wait to watch that jackass fail. He won't have the slow Mike Evans jumping over soon to be gym teachers to bail his goofy ass out, but no one seems to pick up on this.

Bridgewater is the best of the rest, but you have yet another Carr, and a variety of kids who played at generally crappy small schools and/or have plenty of warts, don't seem particularly bright and with none of them mistaken for having all of the tools.

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Fwiw if a team like the Bear don't take a flyer on Aaron Murray in the late 3rd/4th round, they're nuts. But (and yes, this is a big one) for his injury, I think he is/was worlds better than any of the QBs being overloved in this draft hype. Especially as a projected pro. Get him for short end cash, and then you can avoid all short term controversy (2yrs) as he's going to sit on IR for a year to shadow the coach. Hell, I want the Saints to grab him if he's there.


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I see Manziel as the reincarnation of Ryan Leaf. I cannot wait to watch that jackass fail. He won't have the slow Mike Evans jumping over soon to be gym teachers to bail his goofy ass out, but no one seems to pick up on this.



When I watched A&M play, I was actually impressed with Manziel's accuracy and arm strength. I expected him to do a lot more work out the pocket, but found he did a lot of damage inside the pocket and had quick decision making.

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Matt Smith from NFL.com had Deone Bucannon going to the Bears. That's the 1st time I've seen that name.


That is VERY high for Buchanon. The Bears did have him in for a visit. He is a fairly big safety who also displayed very good speed at the combine. He would be a really good second round pick if he is there. I think there are at least three S better than him in Dix, Pryor and Ward.

If they are going to wild card it at safety, my guy is Ward as I believe he is the top pass coverage guy in the group.

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These were my late round sleepers earlier this year. Am I insane?

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It may very well be likely that Fuller is ahead of Dennard in some people's minds. Emery had him in for a visit and there is no way he is there in the second. Put him into my acceptable choices if Donald is gone.


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