Let’s make a 3 score game a 3 score game.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Don't disrespect (Pro Bowl QB) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. 2nd best stats.

Hate to tell ya this "Amigo", but that is sort of the essence of how life works.

I haven't denied that the offensive is poor, I've even routinely pointed out that they can't pass block or run block, as well as the play calling. Caleb threw for multiple TDs today against a team that is second-best in the league at preventing TD passes, and again threw for well over 300 yards, surviving two back-breaking turnovers by one player on his offense. I don't know what more you want him, a rookie, to do.

And I've discussed what could be causing the futility in the 1st quarter: conservative play scripting by sub-par coordinators, an offensive line that cannot run block which results in playing from behind schedule in down and distance, and a defense that is uniquely terrible at stopping opposing offenses until they are knocking in on the door of the end zone. Be upset all you want that the explanation doesn't include or isn't simply "Offense bad because Caleb bad" but the fact of the matter is the Bears might still be on their play call script well into the 2nd because drives are derailed by always being in "and long" down and distance situations because of poor blocking and a defense that gets run over quite easily.

334 yds 2 TDs 107 Rating

On track for 3500 yds 20 TDs

The Bears absolutely suck right now.

But Williams is not even close to the top reasons why they suck.

Anyone with any objective view on things would agree with this.

Is the kid perfect? Hardly. But he has show a lot of promise and he is on track to have stats that are not that far off from Stroud last year and he was praised as being one of the best rookie QBs ever.

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

So your response is that it’s everyone’s fault but Caleb’s. Got it. For the record, I’m not blaming him for all of the Bears woes. There’s plenty to go around. As I noted when optimism was running rampant following the draft, most rookie QBs are (at best) inconsistent and it was unrealistic to expect a sudden turnaround for the team. That doesn’t mean he won’t be good or even great next season. That being said, I find it strange how unwilling you are to admit his early faults.

It really seriously doesn’t matter when he cannot do really anything at all until the Bears are down twenty or so points.

The game before was two 4th and 1 misses. Today was two fumbles.

It doesn't help when the defense gets torched either.

Well they should have won 2 of them if not for horrific last second coaching. Another should have been tied.

But, if the question is why the Bears went down so quickly the last two weeks the blame is almost completely free if blaming Williams.

Just enjoy watching a QB with this amount of potential as a rookie. Maybe you'll be right and he fails next year. This year he has been good but not great.

Well they should have won 2 of them if not for horrific last second coaching. Another should have been tied.

But, if the question is why the Bears went down so quickly the last two weeks the blame is almost completely free if blaming Williams.

Just enjoy watching a QB with this amount of potential as a rookie. Maybe you'll be right and he fails next year. This year he has been good but not great.

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

I get the distinct impression that Brick McCarver will be yammering about Caleb and his status as a "Rookie" even when he is in his 6th year as a pro.

Using your rookie metric so is Jayden Daniels yet his team is avg 27 ppg last I checked and just laid 36 points (and beat) one of the best teams in Football. And led a game winning drive. And improved his team's win total this year "exponentially". That's impact. Bo Nix also has had impact too. None of these "great" things which YOU claim Caleb is doing is "contributing" to things except losses. More and more consecutive losses.

"Caleb Williams throwing for multiple touchdowns contributed to this loss and others!"

But do you know what Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix both have? A top-10 defense. Do you also know how old Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix are?

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Why should they have beaten the Vikings in Chicago?? What did they actually do to WIN that game?

I wasn't just talking about the last 3 games. Those have not been close.

You're impressed with a QB throwing for 300 yards but not impressed by the fact that he couldn't score more than 17 points. Against a team that just gave up 40+ points last week. At this point it's fair to question your sanity Hartgrove with this the case.

No I know, why should the Bears have beaten Minnesota in the game that went to OT?

Oh all of a sudden you don't want to talk about how old Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix are?

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

And the Lions coming into this game had given up the fewest passing TDs in the NFL at 13. Caleb hit them for roughly 12% of the TDs they've given up through the air the entire year.

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

I'm perfectly content with discussing either of the 2 old men" rookies". But that would.also mean that we'd have to discuss the fact that same age CJ Stroud was a double digit victory guy in the NFL while "Generational Talent Caleb" was getting his ears penned back by any College Team with players that were any good. Deal?

CJ Stroud and Caleb Williams are having very similar statistical seasons. Besides that, what's your point?

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

CJ Stroud was a playoff performer his 1st year in the league while Caleb is the QB of a team likely to draft in the top 5 in his. And no their "stats" aren't the same seeing as Stroud passes for TDs when the game actually matters and Caleb does not. I know this doesn't matter to you but then neither does winning or QBing an offense which scores points.
But hey how about that 300 yard game when your team is down 20 for most of the game?

After this week CJ Stroud and Caleb Williams are tied for TD passes.

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

Not when their teams are down 2 scores or more they aren't Hartgrove

CJ Stroud of TD total when his team is losing by 2 scores or more: 2

Caleb Williams TD totals when his team is losing by 2 scores or more: 12

That's a pretty meaningless distinction, especially because a QB can do very little to make sure that his team isn't down by X amount of scores

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

Will the Bears score in the first half the rest of the year?

It’s easy to light teams up in garbage time. Just look at all the times Justin Fields did it while he was here.

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You get moist for Caleb when you watch college football

CJ Stroud's team avg 14 point during the First Half of Games
Caleb Williams's avg 7.

Through 3 Quarters CJs avg 18 points per game while Caleb's avg 11

I (along with anyone with a functioning brain) can see why these particular stats alone would go a long way towards determining whether their teams are down 2 scores or more

CJ Stroud of TD total when his team is losing by 2 scores or more: 2

Caleb Williams TD totals when his team is losing by 2 scores or more: 12