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Honestly, after that draft order Hussra just posted I don’t know if there is going to be any quality QB talent worthy of a 2nd or 3rd round pick left after the top half of the 1st round.

Yeah except 3/4 of those teams won’t don’t really need a QB next year and almost certainly won’t draft one in the 1st round.
Maybe the Packers will spend another first round pick on a QB.

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The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

This. it's much easier to build an offensive line than it is to find the magic elite QB. A good offensive line can make an average QB look above average. I wish the Bears would pursue this angle.


Yep!!!

Great point saying it is easier to build the Oline.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:23 am 
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Jbi11s wrote:
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The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

This. it's much easier to build an offensive line than it is to find the magic elite QB. A good offensive line can make an average QB look above average. I wish the Bears would pursue this angle.


Yep!!!

Great point saying it is easier to build the Oline.


But it is not either or...you have to do both. You do not pass up a potential franchise player at the most important position on the field. You can build the OL in Rounds 2 and on

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Need to take best available offensive linemen in 1st round.

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The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

This. it's much easier to build an offensive line than it is to find the magic elite QB. A good offensive line can make an average QB look above average. I wish the Bears would pursue this angle.


Yep!!!

Great point saying it is easier to build the Oline.


But it is not either or...you have to do both. You do not pass up a potential franchise player at the most important position on the field. You can build the OL in Rounds 2 and on

Yes, the QB is important, They don't have the talent in the front office to find a QB or build an O-line. Build the o-line and QB options become much wider.

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RFDC wrote:
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The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

This. it's much easier to build an offensive line than it is to find the magic elite QB. A good offensive line can make an average QB look above average. I wish the Bears would pursue this angle.


Yep!!!

Great point saying it is easier to build the Oline.


But it is not either or...you have to do both. You do not pass up a potential franchise player at the most important position on the field. You can build the OL in Rounds 2 and on


What did you like most about the Jordan Morgan era with the Bears?

Pace hasn't found a single one later then the 2nd round. His last O-line coach had them bring in Mustipher and Bars.

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Yes.

The pick should without a doubt be offensive tackle in the first round.

Would be hilarious if they reached on OT with a top 14 pick considering they have a roster full of holes. If you want to reach you do it at QB, not OT, but really they just need to be taking BPA.

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Brugler has Wilson #2 so he's probably going to be long gone. Its looking like Lance might be the only realistic option if Bears decide to go QB. They'll still probably need to move up to get him. I don't think Lance gets past Atlanta, Denver, or Washington. Wilson, Fields, and maybe Lance are good enough prospects that teams would be willing to move up for them so the price could be high.


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Honestly, after that draft order Hussra just posted I don’t know if there is going to be any quality QB talent worthy of a 2nd or 3rd round pick left after the top half of the 1st round.

Yeah except 3/4 of those teams won’t don’t really need a QB next year and almost certainly won’t draft one in the 1st round.
Maybe the Packers will spend another first round pick on a QB.

We will. In 2035 when it's time for another succession plan to another HOFer.

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Seacrest wrote:
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Jbi11s wrote:
The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

This. it's much easier to build an offensive line than it is to find the magic elite QB. A good offensive line can make an average QB look above average. I wish the Bears would pursue this angle.


Yep!!!

Great point saying it is easier to build the Oline.


But it is not either or...you have to do both. You do not pass up a potential franchise player at the most important position on the field. You can build the OL in Rounds 2 and on


What did you like most about the Jordan Morgan era with the Bears?

Pace hasn't found a single one later then the 2nd round. His last O-line coach had them bring in Mustipher and Bars.


I agree Pace has been bad. I want them to build the OL. But you do not pass on the most important position on the field. If there is a QB there in the first round that grades out to 1st round then you take them. It is really that simple.

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Yes.

The pick should without a doubt be offensive tackle in the first round.

Would be hilarious if they reached on OT with a top 14 pick considering they have a roster full of holes. If you want to reach you do it at QB, not OT, but really they just need to be taking BPA.

Nah.

Need to take best available offensive linemen.

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He looked small playing against CC this weekend. The arm looked strong. Mobility is above average but certainly not up to the recent smaller QB taken near the top of the draft lately.

I don't think the off season evaluations are going to be as kind to him as the in season has. He has clearly played against weak competition.

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The announcers were saying that was the first time Wilson had to deal with real pressure from a D-Line all season.

He looked very average outside of a couple throws.

Arm is big time tho.

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RFDC wrote:
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Jbi11s wrote:
BigW72 wrote:
Jbi11s wrote:
The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

This. it's much easier to build an offensive line than it is to find the magic elite QB. A good offensive line can make an average QB look above average. I wish the Bears would pursue this angle.


Yep!!!

Great point saying it is easier to build the Oline.


But it is not either or...you have to do both. You do not pass up a potential franchise player at the most important position on the field. You can build the OL in Rounds 2 and on


What did you like most about the Jordan Morgan era with the Bears?

Pace hasn't found a single one later then the 2nd round. His last O-line coach had them bring in Mustipher and Bars.


I agree Pace has been bad. I want them to build the OL. But you do not pass on the most important position on the field. If there is a QB there in the first round that grades out to 1st round then you take them. It is really that simple.


I agree.

Pace just isn't the guy to get it done.

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Yes.

The pick should without a doubt be offensive tackle in the first round.

Would be hilarious if they reached on OT with a top 14 pick considering they have a roster full of holes. If you want to reach you do it at QB, not OT, but really they just need to be taking BPA.

Nah.

Need to take best available offensive linemen.

The smartest teams stay flexible. The dumbest teams reach for need when they have a depleted roster. Imo you should not be rooting for the Bears to be one of the dumb teams.

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Lawrence
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I feel like I’m forgetting someone.

Maybe the Bears will have a shot at Trask, Mond, or Jones.

IMO if you can’t land one of the top 3 or 4 then you wait until later rounds or next year.

The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

I honestly don’t even want them to draft a 1st round QB this year.


Don't forget Newman. That guy has every bit of the ability Love had in last year's draft. I imagine he will be the guy who is the fast riser on board's this year

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Yes.

The pick should without a doubt be offensive tackle in the first round.

Would be hilarious if they reached on OT with a top 14 pick considering they have a roster full of holes. If you want to reach you do it at QB, not OT, but really they just need to be taking BPA.

Nah.

Need to take best available offensive linemen.

The smartest teams stay flexible. The dumbest teams reach for need when they have a depleted roster. Imo you should not be rooting for the Bears to be one of the dumb teams.


Nah.

Need to take the best available offensive linemen.

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Lawrence
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Lance
Trask
Mond
Jones

I feel like I’m forgetting someone.

Maybe the Bears will have a shot at Trask, Mond, or Jones.

IMO if you can’t land one of the top 3 or 4 then you wait until later rounds or next year.

The offensive line is by far the biggest issue on the Bears.

I honestly don’t even want them to draft a 1st round QB this year.


Don't forget Newman.

The goal is to build the line this offseason, and then draft Dillon Gabriel in 2022.

That should be the only mission.

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Yes.

The pick should without a doubt be offensive tackle in the first round.

Would be hilarious if they reached on OT with a top 14 pick considering they have a roster full of holes. If you want to reach you do it at QB, not OT, but really they just need to be taking BPA.

Nah.

Need to take best available offensive linemen.

The smartest teams stay flexible. The dumbest teams reach for need when they have a depleted roster. Imo you should not be rooting for the Bears to be one of the dumb teams.


Nah.

Need to take the best available offensive linemen.

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Does Trey Lance or Kyle Trask get anyone moist?


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In the second tier of highly rated QB prospects Trask is the only one that gets me wet.

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I also can’t get on the Trey Lance train either.

Idk why.

Just don’t have a good feeling.

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Given their recent past record, it seems like they would trade up to get the BYU QB, but I don't think Jim McMahon will be productive with this offensive line and would still be available in the later rounds.


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Would be more comfortable taking Trask in the second round than the BYU kid in the first, facing SEC defenses is a much better barometer than putting up big numbers against North Alabama. Competency at OT will be key to this teams future, so have no problem with them picking the LT available in first round. However, would just like to see the new GM approach the draft with some type of plan in place and use picks to start building both lines. Would also be great if the next GM was able to unload some of the high priced underachievers on defense. Thought a vet DT like Suh was a much higher priority last offseason because Hicks never really gets into shape making him injury prone.


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I agree with most of what you said, but you think Hicks’ injuries are due to a lack of being in shape?

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