That sounds like the opposite of accountability.

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Dare I say I actually recommend the Bernstein&Harris 12/11 show (first hour) that goes into Kevin Warren's hire. They have audio of a Ryan Poles podcast interview, done by the very consultants that hired Warren. Reveals a lot of corporate speak nonsense by all parties, and informs how they all are hiring eachother yet never accountable for the hires.

Maybe it's because we're too close to/invested in the source, but something about the corpo-speak from all levels of the Bears organization is so overwrought and insisting upon itself that it sounds almost satirical, like an SNL skit making fun of HR communications. I don't know whether that's by tedious design, or it's just another field in which the owners and the people they hire are woefully incompetent.

True believers. They think it sounds good because they’re rewarded for speaking like that and nobody has ever told them otherwise.

Kevin Warren is a real life monorail man who trades on other people’s accomplishments and tried to murder college football. His punishment? Free rein over a founding franchise.

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Seems more and more that Hard Knocks was a tell on the mindset of the McKaskey family.

Tons of clips that were supposed to show the leadership ability and engagement of Poles, Warren, and Eberflus, but actually painted each guy as a gibberish spewing goof, who could forget the books on leadership, and the neatly stacked papers on Warren's desk, Poles crying over cutting a fringe DB, and the most obviously staged scene of them all, Eberflus lecturing a disinterested Caleb Williams on leadership.

From Warren "washing" his own car inside a garage (he comically just sprayed water on his car with a hose for 30 seconds), to the embarrassing slip and slide stupidity, to the meeting of the "executive council" where Warren's only input was what color doilies they would use in the imaginary suites in the imaginary stadium, cringeworthy stuff from the hapless McKaskey family.

You only need to listen to one interview with Warren for a couple of things to come across.. he’s an absolute moron, and an egomaniac


How the Bears could go from Ted (who we all despised) to this buffoon is unfortunate. Ted had a giant sized ego too -but business wise he wasn’t a total goof like Warren seems to be.


The Bears will have to get lucky to fix this mess because they have absolutely no one in that building that actually knows what they’re doing.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

It likely is only fixed when someone buys the team.

The new owner would have to fire everyone from the parking people to the "executive committee" and then fumigate Halas Hall to remove all the McKaskey stench from the organization.

It likely is only fixed when someone buys the team.

The new owner would have to fire everyone from the parking people to the "executive committee" and then fumigate Halas Hall to remove all the McKaskey stench from the organization.

The problem isn't necessarily with the Team Presidents hired by the McCaskeys, it's that they structure their organization such that the TP obviously has input on football operations and decisions, but the family, and executives when they find a mouthpiece on drivetime sports radio, tells everyone they don't. Ted Phillips may have been a genius at business and marketing the team, but he knew very little about football yet had a seat at the table next to the GM when signing players and coaches, and here we are again with Kevin Warren openly cucking the GM at a press conference to explain the decision ostensibly made by the GM and nobody else.

George took really bad, and somehow made it worse.

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You can count on him to make the wrong decision.

Why wouldn't they at least bring Belichick in for an interview?

He likely would scare George, but they would have got an honest evaluation of the roster which this team despirately needs as Poles has obviously way overvalued certain guys and needs a sobering lesson on actual leadership from an actual leader.

The fact that the Bears were too scared to talk to the guy tells a lot about the fragile mindset of this franchise.

I think it's pretty obvious by now that the league colluded to push Belichick out. They did it to Kaepernick and did it again. No one was going to hire him.

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There’s got to be a better word than collusion for “hey, this guy’s an asshole and nobody wants to deal with his shit.”

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No Tom Brady, no sale.

BRicked off

Why would I want Lombardi/ Belichick when I can have Poles/Brown-fill in the blank

I think Brad Biggs answer to this makes sense -The Bears aren’t actually interested in him, Bill isn’t interested in being a consultant and.. even if they did a sit down, how much does that actually mean or fix?


It’s a fair point on Biggsy’s end.


If Bill were 65 as opposed to in his early 70’s I’d be more interested. But the fact he’s getting up there, and the fact he refuses to unhitch his wagon from Matt fucking Patricia makes him an absolute no go imo.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

The prize in this isn't Belichick, it's Lombardi.

Why? The only significant things he’s done was join the Pats around 2014 for a few years after the heavy lifting was done.



What are you hoping to get out of him without Billy B?

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Unless you’re crediting him with Grudens run in Oakland too?



Either way he wasn’t going to come here and ‘consult’, neither was Bill so it’s moot

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

They were interested in coming here.The Belichick "crew" were having Zoom meetings on Mondays for weeks discussing possible opportunities.
It would be very un-Bear like to make move such as thar but it was out there as a possibilty since they were interested in Chicago.

I’m aware of this part.. but how is ‘Lombardi’ the prize when you have to include Bill and Matt in the package?


As I said before there isn’t much that is directly attributed to Lombardi that I’d be overly impressed with. His time in Oakland maybe, but his time with the Pats isn’t as impressive because they already had a prime Brady and Bill did the heavy lifting decision wise. Sure he had a cup of coffee years ago with Bill Walsh but so what?


As for them wanting to come here.. Bill is what 72? And he won’t go anywhere without Matt Patricia. I get the appeal to a point, but again the Bears aren’t looking to fire Warren and Poles just yet (unfortunately) so the only thing left is.. consulting. And again Bill and Lombardi weren’t going to sit down for that.


This is a lot of frustration over nothing imo. You’re not getting prime Billy B as a coach, and you’re not getting the older version of him without a shitty package deal of guys that aren’t smarter than he is.

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

I understand they aren't firing Poles.It woukd be too forward-thinking of a move for the Bears to do that.

The correct move would be fire Poles,let Lombardi run the football operations and let Warren do whatever it is he pretends to do.
Maybe it would have failed as well but I would rather die on that hill as opposed to the parade of clowns the Bears hire.

Team Belichick would be better than anything the Bears have trotted out there on gameday.

Im not frustrated, I gave up on the Bears after Nagy.
I just now watch a dumpster fire knowing it will take blind luck for things to get better.

Team Belichick put Matt fucking Patricia -a defensive coordinator- in charge of developing a young QB coming off a solid rookie season only for it to disastrously fail.


Team Belichick will not go anywhere in the NFL without guys like Patricia. That’s bad, not good.


I’m a huge Billy B fan but everyone has a prime and at 72 he’s definitely not in his anymore.


I’d rather take my chances now, today, in the present.. with being patient and see who becomes available (like Shanahan for example) or go for a proven coordinator like Johnson who will require a small leap of faith as a 1st time HC. But at least with him (unlike the Nagy hire) you know what he’s doing with Detroit on his side of the ball is 100% his doing. That offense is his creation.


People need to let go of the Belichick stuff. He’s old, there’s too many reasons he won’t be here, and in all honesty that might not be a bad thing today -in the present- because the game may have passed him by and the Bears could be passing on the next Kyle Shanahan (or passing on the Kyle Shanahan) to grab him. I don’t want to die on that hill.


And as far as Lombardi is concerned.. again, what are his actual accomplishments aside from standing on the shoulders of other great football heads? Sure, I’d take him over Poles but that’s a really low bar. The obsession over Lombardi puzzles me. Gun to my head I’d say his most notable football accomplishments are with an Oakland team two decades ago and that’s it. I’m not giving him credit for hanging out with Bill Walsh in the 80’s and hanging out with Bill Belichick in the 2010’s

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If the rule you followed lead you to this, of what use was the rule?

Game-planning and gameday Belichick are better than anything the Bears have been trotting out there.

I assumed Lombardi was retired and happy in media world, I was wrong.

Maybe Team Belichick would have told the Bears to fuck off after meeting with the MCaskey clown show but we will never know since they didn't even call...typical Bears.

Maybe they will get lucky in this hiring cycle...would anyone bet on that?


Poles on Eberflus:
"The moment he walked into the room I knew he was the guy"..and the beat goes on....

Is it crazy to think Warren played a big role in this coaching search and signing? The process didn't exactly scream that it was Poles' operation.

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

It screamed in was Warren's operation, until they actually got him to sign on as head coach. It's looking like something Warren tried his hardest to royally fuck up.

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I think it was Albert Breer or somebody like that who wrote that Warren did the legwork with the McCaskeys. If that’s the case he deserves credit.

It also furthers my view that he’s taken on a David Koresh like role with Ginny.

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Nobody in that organization knows how to spend money like Warren.

He's like the wife you met in a Vegas club

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

That was about the worst thing about that stupid love fest of the broadcast.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip