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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 3:23 pm 
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Looking at just the first three rounds, in the last 5 years:

- the Bears have drafted 3 OLs and 2 DLs (and used a 2nd rounder on Sweat)
- the Packers have drafted 3 OLs and 2 DLs

It isn’t an allocation of resources issue as much as it is a shitty talent evaluation & development issue.


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Packers defensive line
Van Ness #13 pick in 2023
Clark # 27 pick in 2016
Wyatt #28 pick in 2022
Gary #13 pick in 2019

Offensive line
Walker 7th round pick in 2022
Jenkins 2nd round pick in 2019
Myers 2nd round pick in 2021
Rhyan 3rd round pick in 2022
Tom 4th round pick in 2022

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D-line
Sweat #26 pick by Washington in 2019
Pickens 3rd round pick in 2023
Dexter 2nd round pick in 2023
Walker 2nd round pick by Denver in 2017

O-Line
Borom 5th round pick in 2021
Jenkins 2nd round pick in 2021
Shelton UDFA
Pryor 6th round pick by Philly in 2018
Wright #10 in 2023

You see immediately the value the Pack place on interior lineman. Defensive line is obviously a huge priority, they spend first round picks on guys and keep them in house.

Poles has wasted multiple 3-5 round picks on guys like Velus Jones, Amegadjie, Sewell, Scott, Johnson, and Robinson, all guys with limited college production that are either already gone, or are marginal NFL players, those types of misses kill your franchise and get you fired.


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"REAL Chicagoans are inaccurate in their description of local geography!"


Who cares? You need GPS in order to find coordinates."WE" don't.

If you told "us" that this particular dock was in Evanston I doubt seriously if any of "us" would hightail it to Evanston as a result dumbass.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Packers
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Clawmaster wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Looking at just the first three rounds, in the last 5 years:

- the Bears have drafted 3 OLs and 2 DLs (and used a 2nd rounder on Sweat)
- the Packers have drafted 3 OLs and 2 DLs

It isn’t an allocation of resources issue as much as it is a shitty talent evaluation & development issue.


Hmm..lets take a look

Packers defensive line
Van Ness #13 pick in 2023
Clark # 27 pick in 2016
Wyatt #28 pick in 2022
Gary #13 pick in 2019

Offensive line
Walker 7th round pick in 2022
Jenkins 2nd round pick in 2019
Myers 2nd round pick in 2021
Rhyan 3rd round pick in 2022
Tom 4th round pick in 2022

Bears
D-line
Sweat #26 pick by Washington in 2019
Pickens 3rd round pick in 2023
Dexter 2nd round pick in 2023
Walker 2nd round pick by Denver in 2017

O-Line
Borom 5th round pick in 2021
Jenkins 2nd round pick in 2021
Shelton UDFA
Pryor 6th round pick by Philly in 2018
Wright #10 in 2023

You see immediately the value the Pack place on interior lineman. Defensive line is obviously a huge priority, they spend first round picks on guys and keep them in house.

Poles has wasted multiple 3-5 round picks on guys like Velus Jones, Amegadjie, Sewell, Scott, Johnson, and Robinson, all guys with limited college production that are either already gone, or are marginal NFL players, those types of misses kill your franchise and get you fired.

You’re going back almost 10 years on some of these picks, adding in 7th rounders when you said “early round” and excluding the worthless Yalie the Bears took last year in the 3rd.

If you want to say that the Pack is better on the lines, that’s inarguable. But Poles has used early draft picks on both sides of the ball, he just sucks at it.

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I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.


No you won't

Is that because it doesn't exist?

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I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.


No you won't

Is that because it doesn't exist?

It actually does however. I know exactly where the Millennium Park Boat Docks happen to be. How about you? Just Asking A Question

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I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.


No you won't

Is that because it doesn't exist?

It actually does however. I know exactly where the Millennium Park Boat Docks happen to be. How about you? Just Asking A Question


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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Packers
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I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.


No you won't

Is that because it doesn't exist?

It actually does however. I know exactly where the Millennium Park Boat Docks happen to be. How about you? Just Asking A Question

Some say no one knows more about Millennium Park than I do.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Packers
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Brick wrote:
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I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.


No you won't

Is that because it doesn't exist?

It actually does however. I know exactly where the Millennium Park Boat Docks happen to be. How about you? Just Asking A Question

Some say no one knows more about Millennium Park than I do.


Then you'd have no problem locating the docks. I can be there in less than 10 minutes. What say you?

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I call them the Field Museum docks. That's what real Chicagoans call them.

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I call them the Field Museum docks. That's what real Chicagoans call them.


OK well I'm at the Field Museum docks. Where you?

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Ok..I just got done building the dock. Lets get this meetup time firmed up.


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I call them the Field Museum docks. That's what real Chicagoans call them.


OK well I'm at the Field Museum docks. Where you?

Arkansas at your vacation spot.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Packers
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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
I call them the Field Museum docks. That's what real Chicagoans call them.


OK well I'm at the Field Museum docks. Where you?

Arkansas at your vacation spot.


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I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.

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 Post subject: Re: Bears @ Packers
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Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?

No wonder he sucks.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?


If you acknowledge that he couldn't hit Lake Michigan from the docks in Millennium Park then sure. Otherwise no.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
I call them the Field Museum docks. That's what real Chicagoans call them.


OK well I'm at the Field Museum docks. Where you?

Arkansas at your vacation spot.


The lie detector test has determined that this was a lie!
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I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.

Let's schedule it for later this week.

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Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
Brick wrote:
I call them the Field Museum docks. That's what real Chicagoans call them.


OK well I'm at the Field Museum docks. Where you?

Arkansas at your vacation spot.


The lie detector test has determined that this was a lie!
Brick wrote:


I'll see you at the Millennium Park boat docks any time you want.

Let's schedule it for later this week.


OK no problem

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Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?


If you acknowledge that he couldn't hit Lake Michigan from the docks in Millennium Park then sure. Otherwise no.

I’ve already acknowledged that he can’t hit the lake from millennium park.

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Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?


If you acknowledge that he couldn't hit Lake Michigan from the docks in Millennium Park then sure. Otherwise no.

Well if he's already at the docks I'm pretty sure he could hit the lake. Unless it's actually the Millennium Park Dry Docks.


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?


If you acknowledge that he couldn't hit Lake Michigan from the docks in Millennium Park then sure. Otherwise no.

I’ve already acknowledged that he can’t hit the lake from millennium park.


I'm acknowledging that he can not hit Lake Michigan from the Docks in Millennium Park.

You seem to think that he can

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?


If you acknowledge that he couldn't hit Lake Michigan from the docks in Millennium Park then sure. Otherwise no.

I’ve already acknowledged that he can’t hit the lake from millennium park.


I'm acknowledging that he can not hit Lake Michigan from the Docks in Millennium Park.

You seem to think that he can

The imaginary inland docks, or Monroe Harbor, which you mistook for Navy Pier earlier in the thread?

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
Is it helpful if those of us who don’t hate Caleb Williams acknowledge he probably can’t throw a ball a quarter mile from the hypothetical Millennium Park Marina into the lake?


If you acknowledge that he couldn't hit Lake Michigan from the docks in Millennium Park then sure. Otherwise no.

I’ve already acknowledged that he can’t hit the lake from millennium park.


I'm acknowledging that he can not hit Lake Michigan from the Docks in Millennium Park.

You seem to think that he can

The imaginary inland docks, or Monroe Harbor, which you mistook for Navy Pier earlier in the thread?


To "us" it's all one and the same. Thus "we" couldn't care less about some silly distinction without a difference which you are trying to provide. As stated previously it's "trivial'.

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I'm not afraid to say it: Caleb Williams could hit any building on the Northeast Side.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Looking at just the first three rounds, in the last 5 years:

- the Bears have drafted 3 OLs and 2 DLs (and used a 2nd rounder on Sweat)
- the Packers have drafted 3 OLs and 2 DLs

It isn’t an allocation of resources issue as much as it is a shitty talent evaluation & development issue.


Hmm..lets take a look

Packers defensive line
Van Ness #13 pick in 2023
Clark # 27 pick in 2016
Wyatt #28 pick in 2022
Gary #13 pick in 2019

Offensive line
Walker 7th round pick in 2022
Jenkins 2nd round pick in 2019
Myers 2nd round pick in 2021
Rhyan 3rd round pick in 2022
Tom 4th round pick in 2022

Bears
D-line
Sweat #26 pick by Washington in 2019
Pickens 3rd round pick in 2023
Dexter 2nd round pick in 2023
Walker 2nd round pick by Denver in 2017

O-Line
Borom 5th round pick in 2021
Jenkins 2nd round pick in 2021
Shelton UDFA
Pryor 6th round pick by Philly in 2018
Wright #10 in 2023

You see immediately the value the Pack place on interior lineman. Defensive line is obviously a huge priority, they spend first round picks on guys and keep them in house.

Poles has wasted multiple 3-5 round picks on guys like Velus Jones, Amegadjie, Sewell, Scott, Johnson, and Robinson, all guys with limited college production that are either already gone, or are marginal NFL players, those types of misses kill your franchise and get you fired.

You’re going back almost 10 years on some of these picks, adding in 7th rounders when you said “early round” and excluding the worthless Yalie the Bears took last year in the 3rd.

If you want to say that the Pack is better on the lines, that’s inarguable. But Poles has used early draft picks on both sides of the ball, he just sucks at it.


You certainly cannot argue with the fact that the Pack has consistently spent first round picks on D lineman points to a different organizational mindset than the Bears organization.

Do agree that Poles has proved to be totally inept when it comes to roster building, but his predecessor was as bad or worse, it has been an ongoing issue and is why the Bears have been so bad for the past decade.


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Bears should keep it within ten. They only lost by a point last time.

I don't think that Lambeau gives GB that much of an edge is this game.

The Bears are playing for pride.


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I'm not afraid to say it: Caleb Williams could hit any building on the Northeast Side.


I really doubt that. He most likely would overthrow the building just before taking a non called cheap shot to the head. :oops: :oops: :eye:

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You see immediately the value the Pack place on interior lineman. Defensive line is obviously a huge priority, they spend first round picks on guys and keep them in house.

Poles has wasted multiple 3-5 round picks on guys like Velus Jones, Amegadjie, Sewell, Scott, Johnson, and Robinson, all guys with limited college production that are either already gone, or are marginal NFL players, those types of misses kill your franchise and get you fired.





It’s worse than this tho.. Ryan chose most of those guys based on their RAS scores. Not tape, or how they look actually playing football but.. a relative athletic score.


Remember the press conference he did when he was asked what he saw in Dexter because he didn’t do much in college? Poles went on to talk about his RAS score and his ranking coming out of high school. That’s who is picking the players for this team. That guy.

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