He's not even the worst Bears QB to start all 16 games, you just hate him because you have a weird pathology about anyone that isn't white. Joe Flacco was worse the year after he won the Super Bowl. And there's Geno Smith, so it also wouldn't even be remotely unprecedented for him to improve.


Player Year Tm GS Yds TD Int Sk Yds ANY/A W L ANY/A+
David Carr 2002 HOU 16 2592 9 15 76 411 3.24 4 12 69
Dave Brown 1996 NYG 16 2412 12 20 49 276 3.30 6 10 70
Trent Dilfer 1995 TAM 16 2774 4 18 47 331 3.71 7 9 75
Geno Smith 2013 NYJ 16 3046 12 21 43 315 4.17 8 8 76
Vince Evans 1981 CHI 16 2354 11 20 23 173 3.27 6 10 77
Jake Plummer 2002 ARI 16 2972 18 20 36 248 3.86 5 11 79
David Carr 2005 HOU 16 2488 14 11 68 424 3.77 2 14 80
Joe Flacco 2013 BAL 16 3912 19 22 48 324 4.50 8 8 80
Joey Harrington 2003 DET 16 2880 17 22 9 55 3.86 5 11 80
Kordell Stewart 1998 PIT 16 2560 11 18 33 211 3.58 7 9 80

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Oh god fuck the stats. This guy cranked up numbers against teams when he was down huge and bullshit like that Jacksonville game where a massive hurricane disrupted all the coaches & players lives before they had to get on a (heavily delayed) flight to London.

The guy played with a horseshoe up his ass (he probably liked that) all year and still managed to put together a monster losing streak that was only snapped because the Packers couldn’t give a fuck less.

He’s going to challenge JaMarcus Russell’s crown by the end of the year. Wait til more comes out about him.

You’ve got a better chance of hell freezing over than getting a solid explanation why it’s just fine that only two coaches for the Bears last year were allowed to even TALK to Caleb Williams. Like how Thomas Brown (passing game coordinator) and him never even met until Brown took over the offense.

There are plenty of stats which validate that he was one of the least accurate passers in the league and of the past 25 years

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In terms of actually physically throw the football to a place on the field he is dreadful. Like historically bad.

lost to the Packers on a blocked field goal, Washington on a hail mary, and Detroit when Eberflus had a stroke on the sideline. None of that matters to you because Caleb isn't white and you're a sad little freak.

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Caleb is the reason they lost on Thanksgiving.

If Caleb was white and/or straight he would’ve been a fifth round pick. And he basically played like a fifth round pick in 2024.

fired the HC in season for the first time ever a day later but sure it was the QB who had 3 TD passes in the second half and had them in FG range when Eberflus stroked out, his fault.

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He's not trolling everyone, he's genuinely this deranged.

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Stop. You sound like a loon.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

You know things are bad for the Caleb apologists when they have to compare him to the likes of Joey Harrington, Dave Brown, and David Carr to make his rookie season seem decent.

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His accuracy was 62.5%. The league average in 2024 was 62.4%.

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Yep. The tell tale is that none believes that he is "generational" anymore either. Even though they will still argue with you about his ceiling being Bob Avenilli

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Who is doing that?

Feel free to provide your own over/unders or answers to the thread.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Intellectual titan USA says insane stuff every day that is easily knocked down. Caleb's rookie year wasn't good, but it wasn't historically bad like that insane freak has been saying for six months. He wants the Bears to lose.

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Ran through three offensive coordinators, none of whom have a job now. A ten-plus game losing streak. Three points against two bad teams at home. One of the worst offensive first half in NFL history against a non playoff team.

I could go on. It was the worst in a long time.

That Niners game…everyone was adamant that the Niners were finished and the Bears would get an easy one. Didn’t go that way, and as it turns out the Niners actually were finished it’s just Caleb & the Bears were just that bad.

No one cares about the Garbage Time King and his inflated stats but you Brick. Mahomes provided the blueprint for how to pad stats in order to make it appear as if he played well during the Super Bowl.

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Incredible first sentence, so deranged he would answer 1+1 = Caleb Williams paints his nails.

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Answer the over/unders then. Bravely lawyering every stat for months but no one can type over or under in a single post.

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Unless the stats are bad, then they are incredibly important. It's like listening to a child.

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The over/unders are meaningless without proper context. If he is going to pass 600 times then HE SHOULD THROW for 4000 yards. No one says that a guy is a "great scorer" simply because he gives you 20pts on 20 shot attempts per game.

I'd much rather do over/unders on stats that aren't related to volume of pass attempts. Whenever those stats are provided,the Bricks of the world start ducking.

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The reality is if Caleb were a normal white guy ricky would hate him way more than I do.

Continent i'm with you on Caleb being bad but focusing on things not related to playing football is silly. I don't care that he paints his nails.

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You're deranged, everyone knows it but you.

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Again, just answer the very easy over/unders. They don't even really matter, but just get something down on the record that isn't just stat lawyering

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I have a Jack Sanborn jersey, lol. I actually love the team, I don't root for them to lose because I'm not a sad, lonely dipshit with myriad insecurities.

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Ok. He will throw for 2000 yds 6 Tds and 6 ints.

It isn't stat lawyering as much as it is providing proper context for the statistics.

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