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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:52 am 
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He's disliked around the league, no doubt. That doesnt apply to his teammates.
Multiple current Bears have said things about him, though Urlacher did it before he got there.

Who else? And what did they say?

DJ Moore said he shouldn't have pushed Webb in the game. He said you shouldnt call out teammates publicly, while calling out his teammate publicly. Sorry if that doesnt sound too credible to me. Webb is fine with Cutler, according to him. So who else has come out and said he's an asshole?
That still doesn't change the fact that multiple current Bears have said things about him. That's inarguable.

It's more than fair to think that Cutler isn't exactly Mr. Popular in the lockerroom, especially since he's pretty much disliked league wide. Where do you think that comes from? Jealousy from how good he is?

It's inarguable, yet I asked you for specific examples and you couldn't give me any. Gotcha.

Noah is pretty much disliked around the NBA, or at least was 2 years ago when they surveyed NBA players. I dont consider him an asshole either.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:53 am 
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I forgot where they are forcing him to do The Jay Cutler show every week to take questions from a couple of idiot sports reporters. Ive listened to the show and nothing he's said has convinced me he's not the total asswipe he is portrayed as.

I think he likes doing the show. He seems to enjoy himself on it. He doesn't ever come off as an asshole on it. He comes off as an asshole when talking to media guys after the game or in the locker room to reporters, but even then it's more of being a smartass than an asshole. I think there's a distinct difference. IMU is a smartass, I dont consider him an asshole.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:55 am 
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It's inarguable, yet I asked you for specific examples and you couldn't give me any. Gotcha.
Urlacher and Moore. I already gave you the answers. You then explained to me what Moore said, which makes your desire to have me tell you that Moore said something puzzling.
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Noah is pretty much disliked around the NBA, or at least was 2 years ago when they surveyed NBA players. I dont consider him an asshole either.
Noah has had trouble with teammates too. Noah's reputation is well deserved.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:57 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Noah is pretty much disliked around the NBA, or at least was 2 years ago when they surveyed NBA players. I dont consider him an asshole either.
Noah has had trouble with teammates too. Noah's reputation is well deserved.

Besides his rookie year, when he was surrounded by a bunch of idiots, what troubles has Noah had with teammates in Chicago?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:58 am 
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I forgot where they are forcing him to do The Jay Cutler show every week to take questions from a couple of idiot sports reporters. Ive listened to the show and nothing he's said has convinced me he's not the total asswipe he is portrayed as.

I think he likes doing the show. He seems to enjoy himself on it. He doesn't ever come off as an asshole on it. He comes off as an asshole when talking to media guys after the game or in the locker room to reporters, but even then it's more of being a smartass than an asshole. I think there's a distinct difference. IMU is a smartass, I dont consider him an asshole.

I disagree :) Every week he cant wait to give Silvy some smartass answer or non answer to a legit and fair question. Ive wondered why he wants to do the show too as he does seem to have such a low tolerance for the media and all that goes along with being a public figure. Guy makes what 8 mill a year ? what could they be throwing at him to make him overcome his loathing for doing these things, 25k a week? Maybe he is just being a smartass not an asshole but to me he walks that fine line so much they come off as the same thing.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:59 am 
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Noah is pretty much disliked around the NBA, or at least was 2 years ago when they surveyed NBA players. I dont consider him an asshole either.
Noah has had trouble with teammates too. Noah's reputation is well deserved.

Besides his rookie year, when he was surrounded by a bunch of idiots, what troubles has Noah had with teammates in Chicago?
Lots of rumors about issues at Florida too. He seems more mature now, but as FavreFan pointed out, 2 years ago was a different story.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:00 pm 
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Douchebag wrote:
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Noah is pretty much disliked around the NBA, or at least was 2 years ago when they surveyed NBA players. I dont consider him an asshole either.
Noah has had trouble with teammates too. Noah's reputation is well deserved.

Besides his rookie year, when he was surrounded by a bunch of idiots, what troubles has Noah had with teammates in Chicago?

Yeah, and that was pretty much with Ben Wallace, who was playing like a dog and Noah said so. Noah doesn't want to play with guys who don't give a shit. He doesn't have anything close to a bad rep with teammates right now. Dont know what Rick is talking about here.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:01 pm 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Noah is pretty much disliked around the NBA, or at least was 2 years ago when they surveyed NBA players. I dont consider him an asshole either.
Noah has had trouble with teammates too. Noah's reputation is well deserved.

Besides his rookie year, when he was surrounded by a bunch of idiots, what troubles has Noah had with teammates in Chicago?
Lots of rumors about issues at Florida too. He seems more mature now, but as FavreFan pointed out, 2 years ago was a different story.

2 years ago he had a good rep with his teammates and it wasn't still his rookie year by a long shot.

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It's inarguable, yet I asked you for specific examples and you couldn't give me any. Gotcha.
Urlacher and Moore. I already gave you the answers. You then explained to me what Moore said, which makes your desire to have me tell you that Moore said something puzzling.

Urlacher wasn't his teammate at the time, as you pointed out, and quickly changed his tune on Cutler. Urlacher likes Cutler now, based on every comment he's made about him the past few years. I already told you why I didn't take DJ Moore seriously, so we'll just let that end. So ONE teammate has ever called him out?

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It's inarguable, yet I asked you for specific examples and you couldn't give me any. Gotcha.
Urlacher and Moore. I already gave you the answers. You then explained to me what Moore said, which makes your desire to have me tell you that Moore said something puzzling.

Urlacher wasn't his teammate at the time, as you pointed out, and quickly changed his tune on Cutler. Urlacher likes Cutler now, based on every comment he's made about him the past few years. I already told you why I didn't take DJ Moore seriously, so we'll just let that end. So ONE teammate has ever called him out?
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DJ Moore is learning what happens when you say things about Cutler.

Anyways, my statement was valid. I'm not arguing it further. The evidence is pretty strong that Cutler is not liked by a lot of people. It was even reported that his only real friend on the team was Greg Olsen.

I'm fairly comfortable thinking that Jay Cutler is an asshole. Disagree if you want.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:13 pm 
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It was even reported that his only real friend on the team was Greg Olsen.

That's not true. It's been reported that him and Bennett were friends since the day he got here, and going back to Vandy days. And obviously Brandon Marshall loves him. It's funny how there's all this inarguable evidence but you cant name any of it.

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It's funny how there's all this inarguable evidence but you cant name any of it.
Don't be dense. I said that multiple current Bears calling him out was inarguable. Maybe the whole lockerroom absolutely loves Cutler now. I'm not arguing that his teammates hate him. I'm arguing that there have been multiple players who have said bad things about him in direct response to you saying that while the league may hate him, that's not his teammates.

You think it's all just a misunderstanding that he's hated more than just about anyone in the league?

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