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I think the GB game will be very telling about what we have in Trestman.

The only shot at winning is to put up 40+ on them so design a 40+ point gameplan


My gameplan is to knock the shit out of Aaron Rodgers after every toss. BLITZ,BLITZ...what's the diff,the D sucks anyway.

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Who the hell does Aaron have to throw to anymore?

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Who the hell does Aaron have to throw to anymore?


They'll be just fine. Cleveland was actually a top 10 pass defense, and Rodgers had no problem shredding them with just Nelson, Finley (part-time), and a newish WR that took Jones' spot.

The Packers have nothing to fear against a Bears defense that can't rush the passer or correctly play deep passes.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 BEARS
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The Bears have NO CHANCE of beating or staying with GB at Lambeau. This is time to try out new shit on the defense and offense and work in rookies or other depth players.

This GB/Bears things is like the Red Wings and the Hawks. GB is completely in the Bears heads, both players and coaches.

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Veteran Fat guy! Thats Number 1 on my list!

Prefer he can tackle as well!

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Veteran Fat guy! Thats Number 1 on my list!

Prefer he can tackle as well!


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10-6

Of course you need the record to get into the tourney, but we all know when a good team is a good team.

Dick Jaurons 13-3 team got so beat up by that Eagles team it was shameful that Jauron and other players lined up for contracts on the backs of the 13-3 deal!

Lovies Super Bowl team was one of the weaker NFC teams to ever play in the Super Bowl. His luck was that they got to play v Peyton in the pouring rain!

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Lets get back to the 2014 plan!

1- I do think they need a new DC as a whole new plan needs to come in
2- 90% of money and draft picks needs to be spent on money
3- new punter and new FG kicker if Gould needs $5M
4- Speedy WR, I am talking super fast get down the field Kick returner type
5- 3rd down scatback

Beat GB, let me see a playoff game, I am still excited for it, but realistic, 2014 is what matters.

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2- 90% of money and draft picks needs to be spent on money
I spend all of my money on money.

Money.

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Lets get back to the 2014 plan!

1- I do think they need a new DC as a whole new plan needs to come in
2- 90% of money and draft picks needs to be spent on money
3- new punter and new FG kicker if Gould needs $5M
4- Speedy WR, I am talking super fast get down the field Kick returner type
5- 3rd down scatback

Beat GB, let me see a playoff game, I am still excited for it, but realistic, 2014 is what matters.


I agree with the needs but in no way do I look past next game. Beat Green Bay,that is all that matters. They kept the Bears out of the Super Bowl,we need revenge,even a little bit like this.

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bigfan wrote:
Lets get back to the 2014 plan!

1- I do think they need a new DC as a whole new plan needs to come in
2- 90% of money and draft picks needs to be spent on money
3- new punter and new FG kicker if Gould needs $5M
4- Speedy WR, I am talking super fast get down the field Kick returner type
5- 3rd down scatback

Beat GB, let me see a playoff game, I am still excited for it, but realistic, 2014 is what matters.


I'd rather pay Gould than Cutler.
Bears need DB's like I need a Xanax.
A new DC is needed badly
Draft heavily on D after you've locked up a QB. Let dickface walk and use McCown until the new QB is ready to go.

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Remember when Hub said Emery blew the pick because Sharif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Eifert were all available in bigger positions of need/greater impact positions and a veteran guard just like Slausen could be found on the cheap to play a competent OG...well that is still the case.

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Remember when Hub said Emery blew the pick because Sharif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Eifert were all available in bigger positions of need/greater impact positions and a veteran guard just like Slausen could be found on the cheap to play a competent OG...well that is still the case.


Especially since there was a good chance he was still around in the second round.

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Mike Glennon, the QB who was rumored to be going to the Bears before the draft last year, is not appreciably worse than Cutler in production. This is from a rookie playing in a far less talented offense that is down to its 3rd string RB.

My decision is made on Cutler. If it were up to me he is gone and I would be drafting a QB very high with a reasonable veteran signing to babysit him

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 BEARS
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good dolphin wrote:
Remember when Hub said Emery blew the pick because Sharif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Eifert were all available in bigger positions of need/greater impact positions and a veteran guard just like Slausen could be found on the cheap to play a competent OG...well that is still the case.

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Mike Glennon, the QB who was rumored to be going to the Bears before the draft last year, is not appreciably worse than Cutler in production. This is from a rookie playing in a far less talented offense that is down to its 3rd string RB.

My decision is made on Cutler. If it were up to me he is gone and I would be drafting a QB very high with a reasonable veteran signing to babysit him


Well wouldn't McCown fill the veteran role perfectly? He has played well WITHIN TRESTMAN'S SYSTEM.

What other veteran QB's would be available next season that are worth a damn? Keep McCown, let Cutler walk and draft the future QB.

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good dolphin wrote:
Remember when Hub said Emery blew the pick because Sharif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Eifert were all available in bigger positions of need/greater impact positions and a veteran guard just like Slausen could be found on the cheap to play a competent OG...well that is still the case.

Bennett is better than Eifert for now at least


Both...mind blown.

Bears would be fully justified in taking another pass catching TE in this draft, not in the first, but certainly in the middle rounds.

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Remember when Hub said Emery blew the pick because Sharif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Eifert were all available in bigger positions of need/greater impact positions and a veteran guard just like Slausen could be found on the cheap to play a competent OG...well that is still the case.

Bennett is better than Eifert for now at least


Both...mind blown.

Bears would be fully justified in taking another pass catching TE in this draft, not in the first, but certainly in the middle rounds.

With as many needs as there are on D, I don't think taking another TE is a wise idea.

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No way should the Bears even consider drafting a TE. QB and defense. another o-lineman would be good also. So many holes....so few picks.


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The Bears don't need a TE. They need QB, DL, DB, LB, P.

How in the hell did Emery determine that Shea Mac should be drafted instead of Chandler Jones? I still cant believe it.

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Draft a TE

Need depth there. That's a big part of the offense to lose to injury with no backup. Plus you can play them together.


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RFDC wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Remember when Hub said Emery blew the pick because Sharif Floyd, Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Eifert were all available in bigger positions of need/greater impact positions and a veteran guard just like Slausen could be found on the cheap to play a competent OG...well that is still the case.

Bennett is better than Eifert for now at least


Both...mind blown.

Bears would be fully justified in taking another pass catching TE in this draft, not in the first, but certainly in the middle rounds.

With as many needs as there are on D, I don't think taking another TE is a wise idea.


You are thinking in the past. The future of this team (and really the league) is to outscore the other.

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Draft a TE

Need depth there. That's a big part of the offense to lose to injury with no backup. Plus you can play them together.


Josh is gonna need weapons


Exactly! Not drafting for depth, drafting to play them together.

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good dolphin wrote:
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Draft a TE

Need depth there. That's a big part of the offense to lose to injury with no backup. Plus you can play them together.


Josh is gonna need weapons


Exactly! Not drafting for depth, drafting to play them together.

It's still depth. I dont mean to say draft a back up

It's a 2 TE league


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Jay- You need to give him a deal. Somehow make it friendly on the backend, so in your 4 or 5, he is tradeable.The guy has an arm and there will always be someone willing to take the chance on him. the options are much much worse for next year, so need to get that done.


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Lets get back to the 2014 plan!

1- I do think they need a new DC as a whole new plan needs to come in
2- 90% of money and draft picks needs to be spent on money
3- new punter and new FG kicker if Gould needs $5M
4- Speedy WR, I am talking super fast get down the field Kick returner type
5- 3rd down scatback

Beat GB, let me see a playoff game, I am still excited for it, but realistic, 2014 is what matters.


Not to cherry pick (and because I read this thread from the start), lets combine part of what you originally posted and then the more recent (#2 excluded).

  1. The concept of "trading" Cutler has tremendous appeal if the word rebuilding is to be employed. Get value for Cutler by getting draft picks. I don't believe he can carry the team any better than he did this season and with the need to rebuild his value would be best helping get the talent. As time goes on, his value on the trade block will diminish.

    Otherwise franchise him. No, he is not a top 5 talent but going long term with him with any heavy money would make him untradeable.

  2. The funniest part of listening to Matt Bowen (beyond his penchant to create his own terminology of catch phrases) is that he can't/won't blame the coaching and yet sees the player flaws that a coach is supposed to correct. I don't know whether Mel Tucker is a "A to B" coach because he seems a failure as a "B to C" coach. I didn't realize (the way it is posited by WSCR football experts) that Tucker is the only coach who knows and understands the 4-3 defense. Considering that the 3-4 has been around since the early 70's, I don't get why people think it to be a "novel" defense. Either way, 4-3 or 3-4, there are other coaches out there who could either be the teaching type you want during rebuilding or the advanced professorial type to handle a roster of veterans. Tucker has not shown me anything to suggest that he is going to bring this defense forward from being among the NFL worst.

  3. Gould I would keep, punter's are dime-a-dozen. But if there is a rebuilding then Gould could be expendable because the team is not going to need to afford his pricetag.

  4. #4 & #5 could be one in the same and a mid to late draft pick. Someone with quick burst in short spaces and not an easy arm tackle, and with a top gear that doesn't let him get tackled from behind. What is lost with watching Hester on television is that you don't see how teams try not to kick to him. The next guy has to bring that chess game of kick type and kick placement into play.

The next draft should focus on getting impact players with the first two picks as the defense has critical needs at every level. SheaMac has been a bust and other than #17 Emery's first draft has been "fail". I think it is dependent upon Tucker's retention as to whether this year's draft will be a bust, if he stays I don't think there will be improvement (although Isiah Frey has shown solid improvement).

Phil Emery is in an interesting position with so many contracts to renew, this off-season will result in him putting his complete imprint upon the Bears. I can live with the concept of rebuild but the NFL is a league where teams shouldn't spend more than 1 season in rebuilding mode. I don't know all the free-agents that will be available but would be happy with a similar approach to last season. Get a top tier free agent, get a "value" free agent (M. Bennett), and then get one or two cast-offs (Slauson type).

Finally, draft a quaterback with the 3rd round pick. Someone with tools and upside, and groom him to be the eventual starter. The team may miss but at least you have some kind of future going forward.

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Here is next years opponets both home and road:

HOME

Detroit Lions,
Green Bay Packers,
Minnesota Vikings,
New Orleans Saints,
Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Buffalo Bills,
Miami Dolphins,
NFC East* (currently Philly)

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Detroit Lions,
Green Bay Packers,
Minnesota Vikings,
Atlanta Falcons,
Carolina Panthers,
New England Patriots,
NY Jets,
NFC West* 9 (currently Seattle)

* Team from that division that finishes in the same spot in the 2013 standings.

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Oh shit... :lol: :lol: :lol:

6 or 7 wins on that schedule.

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Oh shit... :lol: :lol: :lol:

6 or 7 wins on that schedule.
Are you kidding me? They should get at least 5 wins just at home.

2-1 in division and wins against Miami, Buffalo, and Tampa.

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2014 Bears opponents:

HOME

W Detroit Lions,
W Green Bay Packers,
W Minnesota Vikings,
W New Orleans Saints,
W Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
W Buffalo Bills,
W Miami Dolphins,
L NFC East* (currently Philly)

AWAY

W Detroit Lions,
L Green Bay Packers,
W Minnesota Vikings,
W Atlanta Falcons,
L Carolina Panthers,
L New England Patriots,
W NY Jets,
L NFC West* 9 (currently Seattle)

* Team from that division that finishes in the same spot in the 2013 standings.[/quote]

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