IDK I don't see any veterans except Peppers on line. Ratliff just showed up and Paea? hurt all year and bad.

Started all pre season and more with LB from NC hurt. Maybe Tucker completely blow I just can't judge him this year.

Off the top of my head you have the following vets that also played last year:

Wooten #forced to play inside
Peppers #old and hurt and bad
Paea #turk toe all year and more and bad
Jennings #good
Conte #bad
Steltz #bad
Wright #hardly heard his name called all year
McClellin #really

That's got to be enough to jump from 30th in the league to something like 23rd or 22nd with good coaching. It's not like the offense is forcing them to take the field more than usual with three and outs either. They've actually gone on long drives this year.

A healthy Melton, Tillman and Briggs, and this defense is at best a mid level defense. Not on the verge of setting records for ineffectiveness but still giving up yards because the safeties sit too far back and the linebackers are on the wrong gaps.

But the company line (this week's current version) they knew they were going to be bad. So next year they get more players and Mel's genius will manifest its self? Even in the most optimal situation they become a mid level defense, still giving up yards to the run or deep middle balls.

Yeah but my point is a mid level defense is fine this year. We might have 11 wins.

Ok I can see your angle. I just guess I have no passion plus or minus for Tucker.

Defending Tucker is a challenge. Injuries were a factor and it wasn't his defense. But if he didn't feel he could run it well, he shouldn't have taken the job. To have guys wide open at the end of the game when you know they had to throw....

I'm a big dumb shitlib baby

Well they had zero pass rush all day, I don't blame him for blitzing on that 4th down. How about Conte covering someone instead of having him run right by him?

Fire everyone.

Did that really just happen? Also, what the fuck was up with those refs? Are they from Wisconsin or something? Pathetic all around.

It's unusual, but I would see the rationale in doing so. They are last in the league in run defense, the next worst D has given up 300 less yards. That's just terrible. They also give up 30 points a game, which is a little more than four TDs given up.

They Discount Doublechecked the FUCK out of us today.

Bring back Wannie to coach the D.

We need a mad genius at Defensive Coordinator who is good at making chicken salad out of chicken shit.

. . . and I hope Julius Peppers decides that he wants to spend more time with his family next year - he is done as fuck.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Allowing three 3rd down conversions against the Redskins, a backup to a backup to rush for 100+ yards in St. Louis, a 4th & 11 conversion against Minnesota, and three 4th down conversions tonight. All given up by the Bears defense.

If they eliminate just ONE of those, Bears are division champs.

Lots of room to improve in coaching, QB play, and special teams, but the Bears are missing the playoffs this year because of their defense.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Its probably unfair to levy all of the blame at him, but he certainly is a big part of it.

Say what you will about Lovie, his defense never gave up a fumble TD.

Its probably unfair to levy all of the blame at him, but he certainly is a big part of it.

Say what you will about Lovie, his defense never gave up a fumble TD.

This should happen tomorrow.