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Looks like a veteran went up to a rookie who probably had his first major altercation in the NFL and told him not to worry about it, stuff like that happens all the time.

Bennett had already been led off the field. It would have been weirder for Cutler to run after him and tell him that body slamming your teammate was cool.

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I simply find it bizarre that he wouldn't go try and deal with Bennett first like most of the rest of the offense seemed to. That is it.
And if Cutler had did that, then you would have bashed for showing a lack of leadership him for going up to Bennett while "the rest of the offense" was already there, leaving a rookie to sulk or whatever on his own.

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I simply find it bizarre that he wouldn't go try and deal with Bennett first like most of the rest of the offense seemed to. That is it.
And if Cutler had did that, then you would have bashed for showing a lack of leadership him for going up to Bennett while "the rest of the offense" was already there, leaving a rookie to sulk or whatever on his own.
No I wouldn't have. I'd expect the defensive leaders to handle Fuller.

Again, I just found it bizarre that Cutler took a long walk over and did that. I'd be just as surprised if Forte or Long did it.

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Thoughts from a fellow Cutler hater. First the whole thing is much ado about nothing. I think Bennett is a fucking clown but even the throwing to the turf thing wasnt that bad. Overreaction from the media. Second like a couple have said, I took it as Cutler telling him not to worry about it, things like that happen during camp, keep doing what you are doing . Thats all. There will be plenty to pile on Cutler about this year as he sucks, so Ill wait for when he just plays like he normally does . That in of itself provides plenty of ammo.

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Thoughts from a fellow Cutler hater. First the whole thing is much ado about nothing. I think Bennett is a fucking clown but even the throwing to the turf thing wasnt that bad. Overreaction from the media. Second like a couple have said, I took it as Cutler telling him not to worry about it, things like that happen during camp, keep doing what you are doing . Thats all. There will be plenty to pile on Cutler about this year as he sucks, so Ill wait for when he just plays like he normally does . That in of itself provides plenty of ammo.
The bar is pretty low if it is piling on Cutler to think he did something strange.

I'm not saying he is a bad teammate or he and Martellus hate each other. It just seemed strange to me. Some people are just prone to think anything I say is meant to bash him.

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Thoughts from a fellow Cutler hater. First the whole thing is much ado about nothing. I think Bennett is a fucking clown but even the throwing to the turf thing wasnt that bad. Overreaction from the media. Second like a couple have said, I took it as Cutler telling him not to worry about it, things like that happen during camp, keep doing what you are doing . Thats all. There will be plenty to pile on Cutler about this year as he sucks, so Ill wait for when he just plays like he normally does . That in of itself provides plenty of ammo.
The bar is pretty low if it is piling on Cutler to think he did something strange.

I'm not saying he is a bad teammate or he and Martellus hate each other. It just seemed strange to me. Some people are just prone to think anything I say is meant to bash him.

He did throw a shitty pass that broke his receivers clavicle.

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Some people are just prone to think anything I say is meant to bash him.
Thats because most things you say in this section are meant to bash Cutler.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Some people are just prone to think anything I say is meant to bash him.
Thats because most things you say in this section are meant to bash Cutler.

Exactly.

Brick looks at every situation involving Cutler as a way of finding more to bash him about.

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So this is Bennett's last season. Cutting him saves $3.8M in cap and as we hear from just 20 minutes of B&B his act sucks. Distraction central.


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Some people are just prone to think anything I say is meant to bash him.
Thats because most things you say in this section are meant to bash Cutler.
Where were you when I said I think Cutler will have a career year?

Some of you have made up your mind already on my thoughts on Cutler and refuse to see it any other way.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Unicorn
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That's because your mind is already made up on Cutler.

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So this is Bennett's last season. Cutting him saves $3.8M in cap and as we hear from just 20 minutes of B&B his act sucks. Distraction central.

But he says wacky things!! and he's black!!

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Well, you did preface your thoughts by asking if it was just your "Jay Cutler hatred".

So, it did set a tone for the responses.

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I just watched the whole thing for the first time and I'll go with Rick hates Cutler on this one.

If that's not the case then I am praising and encouraging every friend I've ever met at a bar.
That is my point though. His TE just got into an altercation and he ignores Bennett and goes right to the other guy and is seemingly telling him he did well or not to worry about it.

If I'm the only one who thinks that is completely normal then I'll own it and say it is no big deal.


The big deal in this seems to be that Bennett is a loose cannon whose practice habits regularly defy the team culture Trestman is trying to instill.

Based on Bigss' Tribune story this morning, I get the feeling coaches were looking for a way to reel him back in prior to the Fuller incident.

There's no way that little flip would normally merit a suspension.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
Well, you did preface your thoughts by asking if it was just your "Jay Cutler hatred".

So, it did set a tone for the responses.
My mistake.

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Cutler is clearly taking over the TEAM from a leadership perspective, and this is deemed "strange?!" LOL, this place.


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LOL, this place.
In fairness to the rest of us jackasses, it was only deemed strange by one person.

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The big deal in this seems to be that Bennett is a loose cannon whose practice habits regularly defy the team culture Trestman is trying to instill.
Finally someone gets part of the reason for the question!

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Cutler is clearly taking over the TEAM from a leadership perspective, and this is deemed "strange?!" LOL, this place.
Another person who doesn't understand the open nature of the question!

It is possible that the reason it is strange is because of Bennett and not Cutler.

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If you're asking if Bennett is a distraction, I think the clear answer is "yes" given that he has been suspended.

I don't think that has anything to do with Cutler patting a rookie on the shoulder.

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It's troubling the Bears need to suspend and fine a player to send a message fighting isn't a smart idea.

Love the spin but I see no positive in this.


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Another person who doesn't understand the open nature of the question!
If you wanted to make a point about Bennett, why didn't you just ask about him? Why bring Cutler into it at all?

Because you hate Jay Cutler. Something you are already on record as saying in this very thread.

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There is literally nothing strange about what Jay did. If the question is if what Martellus did was strange, I don't know why Cutler is even mentioned. He's not a part of it.


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If Jay would have just thrown an incomplete pass since he's a bad QB, this would have never happened. #BlameJay


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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Another person who doesn't understand the open nature of the question!
If you wanted to make a point about Bennett, why didn't you just ask about him? Why bring Cutler into it at all?

Because you hate Jay Cutler. Something you are already on record as saying in this very thread.
I don't hate Jay Cutler. It was called sarcasm.

I found it interesting that Cutler seemed to have Fuller's back over Bennett's in this. That is not what I'd expect for a QB/TE relationship that is on good terms. I've long suspected that Cutler and Bennett have some issues based on some of the things that Bennett said on the Boers and Bernstein show. It was subtle.

I was trying to avoid the "You just hate Jay Cutler" talk which I obviously failed at. I'll come out and say it. I don't think Cutler and Bennett like each other very much.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I just watched the whole thing for the first time and I'll go with Rick hates Cutler on this one.

If that's not the case then I am praising and encouraging every friend I've ever met at a bar.
That is my point though. His TE just got into an altercation and he ignores Bennett and goes right to the other guy and is seemingly telling him he did well or not to worry about it.

If I'm the only one who thinks that is completely normal then I'll own it and say it is no big deal.

I think it was an

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I think it's possible that Cutler and Bennett don't like each other.

I also think if Bennett was his best-friend that Cutler would have likely still patted the rookie given what transpired.

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Rick, I think you're making too much of it. Not even Cutler hate, but I just think if the TE is catching passes the QB and him will be fine.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I don't hate Jay Cutler. It was called sarcasm.


That sarcasm is only going to work if people don't actually believe that you hate Jay Cutler.

But, we do.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
That sarcasm is only going to work if people don't actually believe that you hate Jay Cutler.
So basically you are saying I can't win no matter what I say.

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I was trying to avoid the "You just hate Jay Cutler" talk which I obviously failed at.
Yeah, you did. Your very first six words in this thread was this;
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Is it my Jay Cutler hatred


You bash Cutler pretty from all season, and all of a sudden we're supposed to think its sarcastic? If so, its been a one hellava show from the better part of 4 years now out of you

If you really wanted to avoid it all along, you certainly would not have started with this. You clearly either want the discussion to turn this way, or you wanted to bash Cutler. If you didn't, you wouldn't have started your discussion with the "hatred for Cutler" disclaimer, and you wouldn't be backpedaling.

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