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I was just quoting the guy who wrote the article.


Just giving you the business, Doc.


You aren't the best poster here. You're just the smartest, most insightful, most clever, and funniest.


This is one of these moments where I'm not sure what's going on.


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New draft big board: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691 ... l-rankings?

Three QBs with first round grades.

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I've watched the Octonauts with my daughter so much I can see Bleacher Report without hearing the "Creature Report" song in my head.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New draft big board: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691 ... l-rankings?

Three QBs with first round grades.


Don't trust any of these changes until after the combine.

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I've watched the Octonauts with my daughter so much I can see Bleacher Report without hearing the "Creature Report" song in my head.


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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New draft big board: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691 ... l-rankings?

Three QBs with first round grades.


Don't trust any of these changes until after the combine.

On the flip side, ive always been told to be wary of a prospect who's status is changed by the combine.

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All the recent mocks have the Bears picking a safety with #3 -- I think it is wrong to move off of Allen -- if they don't get a safety via free agency, they can still get a good safety in Round 2, but the drop off from Allen to the next 3-4 DL is pretty big.

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If Allen's on the board still it's almost inexcusable to draft a safety over him. Teams are built with the lines. Premium safeties are luxuries for already established teams.

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FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New draft big board: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2691 ... l-rankings?

Three QBs with first round grades.


Don't trust any of these changes until after the combine.

On the flip side, ive always been told to be wary of a prospect who's status is changed by the combine.


I think they mean unknowns with no game resume who put up great athletic numbers

I think QB analysis is especially dependent on the various workouts because of the lack of pro style offenses in college.

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New McShay ESPN Mock Draft:

1. Garrett 2. Watson

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3. Chicago Bears, 3-13

Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

Allen has elite strength and quickness. He's an excellent run-stopper, and he had 15 QB hurries and 10.5 sacks as an interior pass-rusher in 2016. The Bears could also be in the market for a quarterback, but Allen is the pick because of his elite skill set (No. 2 player on my board) and fit in Vic Fangio's base 3-4 scheme.

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So does Allen have a bad shoulder or not?


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So does Allen have a bad shoulder or not?


Two reported surgeries, and speculation that there may have been a third that wasn't reported. Still and all, he put up elite numbers after all of it, and the Bears will have a chance to test it out at the combine.


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(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky passed his measurement questions at the combine being over 6'2" and 9.5" hands.

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So does Allen have a bad shoulder or not?


Two reported surgeries, and speculation that there may have been a third that wasn't reported. Still and all, he put up elite numbers after all of it, and the Bears will have a chance to test it out at the combine.

I read he has shoulder arthritis in both shoulders. They'll draft him anyway tho.

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So does Allen have a bad shoulder or not?


Two reported surgeries, and speculation that there may have been a third that wasn't reported. Still and all, he put up elite numbers after all of it, and the Bears will have a chance to test it out at the combine.

I read he has shoulder arthritis in both shoulders. They'll draft him anyway tho.


Great. He will be Tommie Harris for three years and be done. :(

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New McShay ESPN Mock Draft:

1. Garrett 2. Watson

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3. Chicago Bears, 3-13

Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

Allen has elite strength and quickness. He's an excellent run-stopper, and he had 15 QB hurries and 10.5 sacks as an interior pass-rusher in 2016. The Bears could also be in the market for a quarterback, but Allen is the pick because of his elite skill set (No. 2 player on my board) and fit in Vic Fangio's base 3-4 scheme.



Hoping they get Allen, I see Todd Mcshay agrees with me and has no QB worthy of a first round pick this year.

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how do you take a guy #3 that has major injury red flags? don't get it.

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312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New McShay ESPN Mock Draft:

1. Garrett 2. Watson

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3. Chicago Bears, 3-13

Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

Allen has elite strength and quickness. He's an excellent run-stopper, and he had 15 QB hurries and 10.5 sacks as an interior pass-rusher in 2016. The Bears could also be in the market for a quarterback, but Allen is the pick because of his elite skill set (No. 2 player on my board) and fit in Vic Fangio's base 3-4 scheme.



Hoping they get Allen, I see Todd Mcshay agrees with me and has no QB worthy of a first round pick this year.


Why the hell would they want this guy? It's not even the biggest need on defense.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03/02/alabamas-jonathan-allen-has-moderate-arthritis-in-shoulders/

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312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New McShay ESPN Mock Draft:

1. Garrett 2. Watson

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3. Chicago Bears, 3-13

Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

Allen has elite strength and quickness. He's an excellent run-stopper, and he had 15 QB hurries and 10.5 sacks as an interior pass-rusher in 2016. The Bears could also be in the market for a quarterback, but Allen is the pick because of his elite skill set (No. 2 player on my board) and fit in Vic Fangio's base 3-4 scheme.



Hoping they get Allen, I see Todd Mcshay agrees with me and has no QB worthy of a first round pick this year.


Doesn't his post show McShay having Watson going 2nd?

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312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New McShay ESPN Mock Draft:

1. Garrett 2. Watson

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3. Chicago Bears, 3-13

Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

Allen has elite strength and quickness. He's an excellent run-stopper, and he had 15 QB hurries and 10.5 sacks as an interior pass-rusher in 2016. The Bears could also be in the market for a quarterback, but Allen is the pick because of his elite skill set (No. 2 player on my board) and fit in Vic Fangio's base 3-4 scheme.



Hoping they get Allen, I see Todd Mcshay agrees with me and has no QB worthy of a first round pick this year.


Doesn't his post show McShay having Watson going 2nd?

:lol:

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New McShay ESPN Mock Draft:

1. Garrett 2. Watson

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3. Chicago Bears, 3-13

Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

Allen has elite strength and quickness. He's an excellent run-stopper, and he had 15 QB hurries and 10.5 sacks as an interior pass-rusher in 2016. The Bears could also be in the market for a quarterback, but Allen is the pick because of his elite skill set (No. 2 player on my board) and fit in Vic Fangio's base 3-4 scheme.



Hoping they get Allen, I see Todd Mcshay agrees with me and has no QB worthy of a first round pick this year.


Doesn't his post show McShay having Watson going 2nd?

:lol:


McShay has a board with his scouting evaluations and one with who he thinks teams will draft.

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Jbi11s wrote:
312player wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
New McShay ESPN Mock Draft:

1. Garrett 2. Watson

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3. Chicago Bears, 3-13

Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama

Allen has elite strength and quickness. He's an excellent run-stopper, and he had 15 QB hurries and 10.5 sacks as an interior pass-rusher in 2016. The Bears could also be in the market for a quarterback, but Allen is the pick because of his elite skill set (No. 2 player on my board) and fit in Vic Fangio's base 3-4 scheme.



Hoping they get Allen, I see Todd Mcshay agrees with me and has no QB worthy of a first round pick this year.


Why the hell would they want this guy? It's not even the biggest need on defense.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03/02/alabamas-jonathan-allen-has-moderate-arthritis-in-shoulders/


Yeah, not into drafting a guy who has bad shoulders already. Might be a mistake but surely there is someone else to draft. I know its a need but Bears don't seem to have had a lot of luck with drafting guys with injury concerns. I mean, Harris was great while he lasted but if Allen's career flames out in same time period the bears will suck during most of his time as a productive player..


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They are fools if they draft Allen. Let someone else take that chance. No way can they make that risk.


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how do you take a guy #3 that has major injury red flags? don't get it.


I don't see what could go wrong. The Bears took Kevin White despite injury whispers and nothing bad happened there...


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They could have 3 top ten picks in the 2018 draft!!!


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It's time for Adam Hog's annual mock drafts where the Bears are the only team drafting!
http://wgnradio.com/2017/03/06/hoge-2017-bears-mock-draft-2-0/

1st round, No. 3 overall — S Jabrill Peppers, Michigan (6-1, 205)
2nd round, No. 4 (No. 36 overall) — QB Patrick Mahomes, Texas Tech (6-2, 225)
3rd round, No. 3 (No. 67 overall) — TE Jake Butt, Michigan (6-6, 250)
4th round, No. 4 (No. 111 overall) — S John Johnson, Boston College (6-1, 205)
4th round, No. 10 (No. 117 overall from Buffalo) – WR Kenny Golladay, Northern Illinois (6-4, 194)
5th round, No. 3 (No. 147 overall) — OLB Ejuan Price, Pittsburgh (5-11, 241)
7th round, No. 3 (No. 221 overall) – QB Alek Torgersen, Penn (6-1 1/4, 215)


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I could get behind Butt.

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Well, Allen was my guy. But injury concern Allen is not. Maybe grab Peppers then.

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If Pace doesn't stop pinching pennies they are going to be forced into Marshon Lattimore. Lattimore is great and had an impressive combine but that is very high for a CB.

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