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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year
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Mel Kiper thought we could get the #8 pick from Atlanta for Fields. Sold!

I dont believe that. But if that is true that deal should be done immediately


I have another proposal

Justin Fields and #9 to NE

#3 and #34 to Chi

Assuming the Bears are taking Williams and Washington takes Maye, I think Fields is the better option to Daniels for NE future. Pats still keep a high first rounder AND their QB.


New England has a massive rebuilding project on its hands. If anything, they will seek to accumulate additional draft picks this year and next rather than trade picks away for failed first-round picks of the past.

Fields is worth at most the 34 by himself. So what are you adding to the 9 to get up to 3?


Obviously, I disagree on Fields market value.

You listen to more national viewpoints than most of use here. What kind of thoughts about Fields do you hear from people who are further removed from the situation

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Getsy gone.

So I guess Eberflus stays. This is a huge mistake.


Nah, he is a manager and a def coordinator. He will hire a new def co to take off some of the load and Poles will hire an offensive staff for him. Next year will be fine then decide the future.

And then if it doesn’t work, they’ll either have another highly picked QB going into a new offense in year 2 or Justin Fields going into year 5 with his 4th different offense.


My assumption Fields goes.

Fields has to go. Bears cannot pass up another top draft pick.

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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year

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good dolphin wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Mel Kiper thought we could get the #8 pick from Atlanta for Fields. Sold!

I dont believe that. But if that is true that deal should be done immediately


I have another proposal

Justin Fields and #9 to NE

#3 and #34 to Chi

Assuming the Bears are taking Williams and Washington takes Maye, I think Fields is the better option to Daniels for NE future. Pats still keep a high first rounder AND their QB.


New England has a massive rebuilding project on its hands. If anything, they will seek to accumulate additional draft picks this year and next rather than trade picks away for failed first-round picks of the past.

Fields is worth at most the 34 by himself. So what are you adding to the 9 to get up to 3?


Obviously, I disagree on Fields market value.

You listen to more national viewpoints than most of use here. What kind of thoughts about Fields do you hear from people who are further removed from the situation


People outside Chicago are a little more sober about Fields than the H1M cult. I agree with you that a GM might see potential in him.

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good dolphin wrote:
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Mel Kiper thought we could get the #8 pick from Atlanta for Fields. Sold!

I dont believe that. But if that is true that deal should be done immediately


I have another proposal

Justin Fields and #9 to NE

#3 and #34 to Chi

Assuming the Bears are taking Williams and Washington takes Maye, I think Fields is the better option to Daniels for NE future. Pats still keep a high first rounder AND their QB.


I would do the deal without the 2nd round pick.

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Getsy gone.


You can't move forward with Packers stink in your locker room.

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People outside Chicago are a little more sober about Fields than the H1M cult. I agree with you that a GM might see potential in him.


Sure, there's potential in a pair of JORR's fetid dress shoes, too. But you're not gonna wear them to dinner at a Michelin-starred restaurant. And you're not gonna give up a first-round pick for Fields.

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pittmike wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
pittmike wrote:
hootmon wrote:
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Getsy gone.

So I guess Eberflus stays. This is a huge mistake.


Nah, he is a manager and a def coordinator. He will hire a new def co to take off some of the load and Poles will hire an offensive staff for him. Next year will be fine then decide the future.

And then if it doesn’t work, they’ll either have another highly picked QB going into a new offense in year 2 or Justin Fields going into year 5 with his 4th different offense.


My assumption Fields goes.


Agreed. You don't fire the OC and the QB coach and retain Fields in a contract year.

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People outside Chicago are a little more sober about Fields than the H1M cult. I agree with you that a GM might see potential in him.


Sure, there's potential in a pair of JORR's fetid dress shoes, too. But you're not gonna wear them to dinner at a Michelin-starred restaurant. And you're not gonna give up a first-round pick for Fields.


Never said he's worth a first rounder. But when you have guys out there who traded a fortune to move up one pick to take a QB who failed to start at a basketball school, you can see guys like that overpaying for a javelin thrower who moonlights as a QB.

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Fields will fetch a 3rd at best. All of your proposals that have Fields bringing back a future first, or even second are just simply absurd. If he had any value, the Bears wouldn't be trading him in the first place.


The Bears would be keeping Fields if they didn't have the #1 pick in a QB rich draft.

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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

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Fields will fetch a 3rd at best. All of your proposals that have Fields bringing back a future first, or even second are just simply absurd. If he had any value, the Bears wouldn't be trading him in the first place.


The Bears would be keeping Fields if they didn't have the #1 pick in a QB rich draft.


Doubt it.

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good dolphin wrote:
Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
RFDC wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Mel Kiper thought we could get the #8 pick from Atlanta for Fields. Sold!

I dont believe that. But if that is true that deal should be done immediately


I have another proposal

Justin Fields and #9 to NE

#3 and #34 to Chi

Assuming the Bears are taking Williams and Washington takes Maye, I think Fields is the better option to Daniels for NE future. Pats still keep a high first rounder AND their QB.


New England has a massive rebuilding project on its hands. If anything, they will seek to accumulate additional draft picks this year and next rather than trade picks away for failed first-round picks of the past.

Fields is worth at most the 34 by himself. So what are you adding to the 9 to get up to 3?


Obviously, I disagree on Fields market value.

You listen to more national viewpoints than most of use here. What kind of thoughts about Fields do you hear from people who are further removed from the situation


Hopefully, the Patriots or the Redskins feel the same way you do.

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Fields will fetch a 3rd at best. All of your proposals that have Fields bringing back a future first, or even second are just simply absurd. If he had any value, the Bears wouldn't be trading him in the first place.


The Bears would be keeping Fields if they didn't have the #1 pick in a QB rich draft.


Doubt it.


You think they would have made a move in free agency or taken what was left at #9?

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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

How many years have the Bears won 10 games?

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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

How many years have the Bears won 10 games?


The past is for cowards and losers. We're focused on the future.

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Nas wrote:
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Mel Kiper thought we could get the #8 pick from Atlanta for Fields. Sold!

I dont believe that. But if that is true that deal should be done immediately


I have another proposal

Justin Fields and #9 to NE

#3 and #34 to Chi

Assuming the Bears are taking Williams and Washington takes Maye, I think Fields is the better option to Daniels for NE future. Pats still keep a high first rounder AND their QB.


I would do the deal without the 2nd round pick.


#3 pick = 2,200
#9 pick = 1,350
remainder= 850 which is the 20th pick in the first round

you might be right.

on the other hand, Mel thinks Fields is worth the Falcons #8, which would put the trade at -550 for the bears. This lines up nearly perfectly with the value of that #34 Pats pick.

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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

How many years have the Bears won 10 games?


When's last time the pack won 10 games?

:lol:

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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

How many years have the Bears won 10 games?


The past is for cowards and losers. We're focused on the future.

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good dolphin wrote:
Nas wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
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Mel Kiper thought we could get the #8 pick from Atlanta for Fields. Sold!

I dont believe that. But if that is true that deal should be done immediately


I have another proposal

Justin Fields and #9 to NE

#3 and #34 to Chi

Assuming the Bears are taking Williams and Washington takes Maye, I think Fields is the better option to Daniels for NE future. Pats still keep a high first rounder AND their QB.


I would do the deal without the 2nd round pick.


#3 pick = 2,200
#9 pick = 1,350
remainder= 850 which is the 20th pick in the first round

you might be right.


Would trade #9 and your 2025 #1 to lock in MHJ? Or do you think Odunze/Bowers/Nabers are a sufficient consolation prize?

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Is it worth trading that much capital for WRs?

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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

How many years have the Bears won 10 games?


When's last time the pack won 10 games?

:lol:

3 years ago, about half as long since the Bears have beaten the Packers.

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Is it worth trading that much capital for WRs?


It is if you believe he'll be a HoF player, and the others are capped at the pro bowl.

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Hawg Ass wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
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Nas wrote:
blackhawksfan wrote:
All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

How many years have the Bears won 10 games?


When's last time the pack won 10 games?

:lol:

3 years ago, about half as long since the Bears have beaten the Packers.


You guys walking around the board as if you're 14-3 and fresh off four SB wins. :lol:

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Nas wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
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Mel Kiper thought we could get the #8 pick from Atlanta for Fields. Sold!

I dont believe that. But if that is true that deal should be done immediately


I have another proposal

Justin Fields and #9 to NE

#3 and #34 to Chi

Assuming the Bears are taking Williams and Washington takes Maye, I think Fields is the better option to Daniels for NE future. Pats still keep a high first rounder AND their QB.


I would do the deal without the 2nd round pick.


#3 pick = 2,200
#9 pick = 1,350
remainder= 850 which is the 20th pick in the first round

you might be right.


Would trade #9 and your 2025 #1 to lock in MHJ? Or do you think Odunze/Bowers/Nabers are a sufficient consolation prize?


I like this years WR group so I'd sit at 9.

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veganfan21 wrote:
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All these Bears fans jumping ship today are going to have some explaining to do when they win the division next year


This team will win a minimum of 10 games next season unless every important player gets injured.

How many years have the Bears won 10 games?


When's last time the pack won 10 games?

:lol:

3 years ago, about half as long since the Bears have beaten the Packers.


You guys walking around the board as if you're 14-3 and fresh off four SB wins. :lol:

I thought I was just stating some facts.

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let's face it. packers are the best of a shit division for quite some time now.

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Fields will be a charger. Stafford just announced his retirement

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