Ok, so let’s see if I have this straight between you and I specifically discussing this..


My argument is that the Bears should address the QB position as soon as possible in the NFL draft. I base this on the available talent pool of QB and OL where I note that you will have a larger amount of swings in the draft to get the O-line position right than QB based off the disparity of players available between the positions.


And your reply to this is to use an example of an undrafted free agent O-linemen protecting a QB drafted in the 3rd round (ie QB position addressed much sooner between the players in question in your own example) to illustrate your point?


Reinforcing the point I’m trying to make to you is an odd way to disprove my position here.

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Great point, Clawmaster. Bellicek has a similar mindset.

Looks what OAK did to Mack in the London game. He was for the most part neutralized by Carr getting rid of the ball right away.

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Oakland's oline completely dominated the Bears front seven in that game, especially early. In fact, that game showed how a team with a veteran oline full of nasty, physical players can totally dominate a more talented defense by pounding them with the run and then opening up simple play action completions. Roquan Smith basically tapped out in that game because the Oakland guards and center were blowing Goldman off the ball on almost every snap and were punching Smith in the mouth. Those petite 4.6 40 linebackers slow down tremendously after getting trucked by a 5.6 40 350 pound G runs them over a few times.

Hicks dislocated his elbow early in that game and wasn't Roquan a DNP for reasons that are still unknown?

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Um, they looked like shit in the Oakland game because Nagy thought it would be a great idea to fly trans-Atlantic two day before kickoff.

Roquan played; Goldman opted out before the season.

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That Goldman thing was a problem. His right of course but bad for the defense.

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Yep.

Absolutely took the defense down a notch not having his fatass in their alongside Hicks.

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When it comes to "proven" commodities, Dak in a trade could be a possibility, but I think we are probably looking at Alex Smith and Foles battling for the job and a 2nd or 3rd round quarterback backing them up for the season.

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Reading that they need to clear cap space and they likely will cut one or both starting offensive tackles. They seem to think they can slot Bars in at RT, but that leaves a gaping hole at LT which they almost must address with a first or second round pick. The only way it would seem they could free up enough cap space to go after a quality starting QB is if they could deal/cut a highly paid defensive starter.

Both of the tackles are gone. That frees up about $15 million. The can restructure on defense. They are not cutting. It's all in next year. They are on one year deals.

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The problem with that is the 3rd string QB is usually inactive - which makes development very slow and difficult to judge (see Jordan Love).

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I’d take Dak over most trade candidates, but I still think he gets paid by Jerry.

Dallas takes care of their guys.

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I don't think they will cut both.

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I think Massie is gone for sure.

Leno would be much harder to replace.

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Mariota isn't going to be traded.

He has a kicker in his deal where his salary doubles for starting QB duty.

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and he graded out ok at PFF last year, for whatever that means.

I just don't think they are finding two starting level OT in the draft. It would be foolish to spend for one this year in FA. I'm not sure about Bars on the outside and I do like the interior line group they have.

I have a dream scenario where they go all in and get someone like Vera-Tucker in the first and Liam Eichenberg in the second, but there are enough holes that need to be filled where that probably wouldn't be prudent.

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Vera-Tucker would be a good get.

I hope.

Starting to think that Ryan Fitz will be the QB.

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I'm fine with that move, well, not fine, but I think that is one of the better of the bad options. He's mobile enough for this line, smart enough and with enough stature to handle Nagy, he actually is a playmaker, although that is coupled with a higher than acceptable turnover number. You can win with him but you aren't really a legitimate winner with him as your QB.

I think its going to be Alex Smith if he tests out physically.

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Mel Kiper saying all of the quarterbacks go top ten. The situation looks more hopeless by the day.

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If Watson is truly available, this is a great year for the Dolphins to be in on it.

They can trade that #3 pick and their other first, or a future first and really feel no pain for getting a ready made star QB. Meanwhile, the Texans are assured of getting a top prospect QB at that spot.

They are immediate contenders

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It would be hilarious if the Jets drafted a TE at 4.

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Well, that’s something.

hmm, ryan pace is currently looking up the rules to see how many future 1sts he's allowed to trade

He's not going anywhere. People keep pushing these long shot rumors for clicks.

That's a random group.

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With the exception of New Orleans, all shit shows. So why does he want to go to a team worse than the Seahawks?

Wilson’s agent is pushing this.

None of those teams are worse than the Seahawks if you removed Russ from Seattle

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