Have to go with the Kobe Standard Model.

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Mel Kiper doesn't think very highly of this year's draft talent. He said he had difficulty with a top 150 for talent.

I'm sure there is sufficient talent but I have always thought next year's draft looks loaded, at least at the top. Any trade downs should center principally around getting picks for next year.

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Can see Poles upgrading both lines with solid pro's who will be upgrades from last year, but the draft and free agency looks to be devoid of a true consensus #1 franchise QB, a franchise LT, or a bonafide #1 WR, even the top defensive guys have a few question marks.

Next year you will have Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, Brock Bowers, and Marvin Harrison Jr. all guys that are better prospects than anyone in this years draft, this makes the idea of picking up a 1st round pick next year from a team like the Raiders, which will likely be a top 5 pick next year very enticing.

I had a delusional scenario for a second where they trade down to #2, the #4 and finally to the Raiders, gaining first round picks next year each time.

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You aren't getting the Texans #1 next season. They also have the Browns pick next year.

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I can see a scenario where Poles completely botches this entire draft. Maybe he should just stay at #1 and take Will Anderson.

What would you view as completely botched?

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whatever the do will be botched in his eyes.

Trading down, not getting enough and being stuck with Jalen Carter(high bust potential) or another 2nd tier lineman. Poles has shown a knack for getting worked good on trades, see both the Claypool and Roquan trades.

Was also in love with the double trade down, but not sure it makes any sense for the Texans, and what would they give you to move up one spot, a second or third?

However, this is the NFL and it just takes one goofy owner or a one Ryan Pace to fall in love with a guy, so anything could happen.

You could likely get more in future returns from the Raiders or Panthers, but you move down below the #7 you likely do not get one of the top defensive players, but the Raiders will likely pick in the Top 5 next year and you have much better skill position prospects in next years draft.

Seems that Payne is the lever that could tip this as he is obviously the guy you would want to solidify your D line, but if he's franchised your looking at some second tier guys in FA, so you likely need to get one of the top d line guys in the draft, and from what I read about Jalen Carter he is kind of a slightly smaller version of Akiem Hicks, a big athletic guy who likely will not be real interested in staying in shape after signing a big contract, starting to see similar scouting reports on Murphy from Clemson, so there are red flags for several of the top D lineman, this makes me wonder if Poles will stockpile and move down in order to take the top college o lineman.

Poles strikes me as a guy that has had a master plan all along, it's the only explanation for the way he approached last season, and I'm betting it will likely be to totally revamp both lines, just do not know if he believes in Fields.

Did that master plan include completely ignoring the FA WR market last offseason (see Christian Kirk/Zay Jones as solid #2/#3ish options) then panicking and giving up what is basically a first round pick for Chase Claypool who ceiling appears at this point a solid #2/#3 option (we hope). I think the word is out around the league that Poles can be "worked".

He should see fields out. In his back pocket he can always claim fields wasn't his pick. Building through the lines would be a wise decision.

Nobody around the league believes the Bears are going to take a QB so smoke screens are useless. You have to be prepared to take the best defender, Will Anderson #1. Unless you get a haul in picks you stay at 1 and grab the next Micah Parsons(I think). Poles is too much of a neophyte to play these elaborate 'trade games' you are all suggesting without getting worked over good. Arizona is also open for business at #3 as they are married to Murray. so Bears don't hold all the cards.

The Bears do hold all of the cards. Any team that trades with the Cards can be leapfrogged by another team trading up to #1.

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No consensus #1 QB, but it would help if Bryce Young weighed about 215 at his pro day

Or wore lifts on the playing field. Stroud has the tools and showed a lot of TWTW in that Georgia game. My guy Levis will also wow the masses with his throwing ability. I think he may also run a 4.4.

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there may not be a consensus 1 but there is a consensus 3. Imagine the flop sweats in Indianapolis when QB goes 1 and 2 and then Goodell announces a team has traded with the Cardinals to pick 3. I am of the belief the first three picks will be QB, after trades

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The other thing is that the Colts aren't just going to want to leave with a quarterback. They are going to want to leave with their quarterback. QB will definitely go 1 and 2. Do the Colts not only want to take a chance on #3 being a non-QB but also that the third QB taken will be the one they would have traded up for.

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the Colts would be crazy to blow draft capital to move up for one of these guys. Worst case scenario if 3 QB's go in the first 3 picks and you absolutely demand a QB in Indy, they could take Richardson who might have the most upside of all of them. None of these guys are worth the risk of trading future first-rounders for.

You've said that like 6 times and you always walk it back because no one says "It's fine if we overdraft the fourth best quarterback in the draft".

The Colts will have their guy, and they will get him at #1 unless the Texans offer a deal to the Bears to make sure that doesn't happen but the Bears also get the non-QB they want.

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LOL i haven't walked anything back, I have consistently said either the Colts or Texans trading up with the Bears to draft one of these QB's is too risky. I dont recommend the Colts take Richardson at 4. but id rather do that than trade tons of draft picks to draft one of these other guys.

It won't be tons of draft picks especially for the Texans.

It would cost a team that isn't the Colts or Texans a lot of draft picks because they would be moving way up.

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Yes, I am sure the Bears won't expect much of a return trading the overall #1 to the Colts. The Texans trading up would be insane.

You seem to be going to extremes here. There is no way the Colts should give up tons of draft picks! The Bears will expect tons of draft picks!

The Bears will hear from both of them and pick the best offer unless someone else jumps in like the Panthers who are willing to overpay.

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Richardson is the mock draft choice for people who don't watch college football.

53.8% completion rate. Get that shit out of her, son.

No team that needs a Year 1 starter is taking him. Certainly not the Colts. He is purely a project for anyone who is looking for their starter in 2-3 years.

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Didn't they say the same things about Josh Allen?

The Bears will and should expect a lot of draft picks in return. The Colts, sitting at #4, shouldn't give up a lot of draft picks. Somebody will give the Bears a lot if they decide to trade, but the Texans and Colts are crazy if they do, in my opinion. You seem a little slow today.

yes, and even he was better in college

then he went and completed only 52% in Year 1. We think Fields in inaccurate and he was at 59% in year 1

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Your argument continues to get even more bizarre. You went from "None of these guys are worth the risk of trading future first-rounders for." to "Somebody will give the Bears a lot if they decide to trade".

So fine, the Bears are going to get a lot for the pick. Let the Colts take the chance they leave without a quarterback.

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I'm warming to the idea of trading with the Raiders or Panthers and taking Paris Johnson

I don't think they would go wrong loading up on lineman from either side of the ball

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