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Javon Wims, WR Georgia 6'3 215

Overview
Improving prospect with good size and great ball skills, but a lack of suddenness and long speed. He created a highlight reel full of impressive catches in 2017, but he will have to prove he can free himself from press corners looking to jam his release and squat on underneath routes. Wims has the size and tools to work with, but he'll need to play to his size and continue to improve as a route runner. He has the potential to earn a spot at WR4 or WR5 as a pro.

Strengths
Very good size with impressive downfield ball skills
Doesn't have to track it to catch it
Makes catches with quick, late hands and sudden contortions in space
Makes adjustments to win catch positioning
Good high school rebounder who uses springs and basketball timing to snatch it at the highest point possible
Excels on back shoulder throws
Hands catcher
Developed high-knee stutter-step to generate uncertainty and push for improved throwing window on hitch routes
Has size as wall-off blocker and to crack down on the edge

Weaknesses
Lacks sudden feet and smart hands to rid himself of pesky press corners
Too often hemmed up and taken off route schedule
Benefitted from loads of hitch throws and comebacks
Missing jets to climb past coverage and separate
Physical corners crowd him against the boundary on outside release
Route speed is dull
Lacks separation acceleration out of short and intermediate breaks
Needs to use big frame to shield catch point
Inconsistent finisher on tightly-contested catches
Drops came when lead into traffic
Average run-after-catch talent
Can become more aggressive as blocker




Looks to be a red-zone guy.

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Back to Georgia, the #Bears take WR Javon Wims in Round 7. He had a Round 7 grade from @greggabe:


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Dewskie + Zach Zaidman = MATCH!


I'd swipe right.

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Unless they run six WR one of Wims, Bellamy and White will not make the team.


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Unless they run six WR one of Wims, Bellamy and White will not make the team.


Indeed, White needs to be superman in training camp or he'll get walking papers.

Bellamy's only value is special teams and they've got enough guys around the roster who can easily replace him.

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There goes Ateman to the Raiders. F-ing Gruden

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I just realized they probably will carry six receievers and just activate somebody off the practice squad when White hits the IR week 1.


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There goes Ateman to the Raiders. F-ing Gruden


Looked better than Wims.


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I'm not always right, but I'm not parroting or copy and pasting other people's thoughts here because I don't have my own.


If you’re insinuating I’m echoing from someone else, not sure what gave you that impression.

I simply feel like it’s good to keep an open mind and see the potential, but it’s a drag when some members don’t even try. It’s a bust, he’ll never pan out, etc. Maybe I’m naive, I don’t know.

I only defend Pace as much as I do because SOMEbody should around here. There’s no gray with Pace from many of you; it’s either a great move or the worst thing anyone has ever done in the history of professional football.

I’m no expert whatsoever and have no credentials to make my opinions better or more informed than anybody else, so maybe I’m the stupid one here.




Nah, not trying to talk down to you bud. Was just putting it out there about myself so you and others know I'm trying to be as honest as I can when I give an opinion. I'm not always going to give in depth comments about every pick or group of picks -sometimes it's just a swipe with a broad brush over the canvas with a 'these guys are bums' lol


Im a fan just like you and everyone else here -I want what's best for the Bears- and I'm not immune to the occasional meatball reaction to things I don't like/completely understand.


But yeah, I don't like day 3 so far. I'm happy for Pace to prove me wrong tho.


Pace is 12-34 as a GM. This "he drafted (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky so he gets a do over" is horseshit. He.more than likely would have been canned anywhere else but as we know, this isn't anywhere else. As good as the picks seemed on Day 1, day 2 seems like it was all Pace. I know 4-7 rarely equals studs but you have to make the most of what few picks you have. When I hear numerous media members, who know way more than I do,, comment.on the number of "good players that are still available on day 3" and the first pick is a "who?", I get a little worried.


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there were two different people drafting players for the Bears and the results bear that out.


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there were two different people drafting players for the Bears and the results bear that out.


Nah, this was a group effort.
Smith = Fangio
Daniels = Hiestand
Miller = Nagy
Iyegbuniwe = Pace
Nichols = Fangio
Fitts = Pace/Fangio?
Wins = ???


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McDude wrote:
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there were two different people drafting players for the Bears and the results bear that out.


Nah, this was a group effort.
Smith = Fangio
Daniels = Hiestand
Miller = Nagy
Iyegbuniwe = Pace
Nichols = Fangio
Fitts = Pace/Fangio?
Wins = ???



Agreed

I think Nelson was plan A

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That a good call, McDude.


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Wins = ???


THE STORY OF THE 2018 CHICAGO BEARS...

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Wins = ???


THE STORY OF THE 2018 CHICAGO BEARS...



lol God damnit


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312player wrote:
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America wrote:
there were two different people drafting players for the Bears and the results bear that out.


Nah, this was a group effort.
Smith = Fangio
Daniels = Hiestand
Miller = Nagy
Iyegbuniwe = Pace
Nichols = Fangio
Fitts = Pace/Fangio?
Wins = ???



Agreed

I think Nelson was plan A


absolutely. not sure why Colts picked him for a dead qb


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Pace got locked in a utility closet before the draft and was only able to get out Saturday morning

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I’m just happy he drafted really nice guys.

This team has become as risk averse as any in the league to drafting players with spotty backgrounds since mc Donald.

I really don’t think fans would be all that upset if they scouted a penal colony for 4-7 round picks

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Pace got locked in a utility closet before the draft and was only able to get out Saturday morning


Image

"You'd like to draft...who, Mr. Pace?"

"That's right, I'm Ryan Pace, the real Ryan Pace! I'd like you draft THAT player, Igndiabdlewekdiwoaeuau!"

*The fools...I just scribbled some made up name onto the draft ticket and now they're going to waste their 4th round pick on a player that doesn't exist! MUHAHAHAHA-*


"The Bears select...Joel Iyiegbuniwe, linebacker"

"Wait, WHAT?! That's -- can't be --- ARRGH!"

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I’m just happy he drafted really nice guys.

This team has become as risk averse as any in the league to drafting players with spotty backgrounds since mc Donald.

I really don’t think fans would be all that upset if they scouted a penal colony for 4-7 round picks

I lamented this as well. You need some nasty motherfuckers around.


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Javon Wims, WR Georgia 6'3 215

Overview
Improving prospect with good size and great ball skills, but a lack of suddenness and long speed. He created a highlight reel full of impressive catches in 2017, but he will have to prove he can free himself from press corners looking to jam his release and squat on underneath routes. Wims has the size and tools to work with, but he'll need to play to his size and continue to improve as a route runner. He has the potential to earn a spot at WR4 or WR5 as a pro.

Strengths
Very good size with impressive downfield ball skills
Doesn't have to track it to catch it
Makes catches with quick, late hands and sudden contortions in space
Makes adjustments to win catch positioning
Good high school rebounder who uses springs and basketball timing to snatch it at the highest point possible
Excels on back shoulder throws
Hands catcher
Developed high-knee stutter-step to generate uncertainty and push for improved throwing window on hitch routes
Has size as wall-off blocker and to crack down on the edge

Weaknesses
Lacks sudden feet and smart hands to rid himself of pesky press corners
Too often hemmed up and taken off route schedule
Benefitted from loads of hitch throws and comebacks
Missing jets to climb past coverage and separate
Physical corners crowd him against the boundary on outside release
Route speed is dull
Lacks separation acceleration out of short and intermediate breaks
Needs to use big frame to shield catch point
Inconsistent finisher on tightly-contested catches
Drops came when lead into traffic
Average run-after-catch talent
Can become more aggressive as blocker




Looks to be a red-zone guy.





For a final pick they could have done a lot worse. If you look at his measurables alone, he compares fairly to almost any WR in this draft. Small sample size of experience tho, so this pick is really throwing the coaches a blank canvas and saying 'paint me something'. I think this kid may have potential to be one of the steals of the draft. Also like that he played against the very highest competition in the SEC and showed a little bit.

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Javon Wims, WR Georgia 6'3 215

Overview
Improving prospect with good size and great ball skills, but a lack of suddenness and long speed. He created a highlight reel full of impressive catches in 2017, but he will have to prove he can free himself from press corners looking to jam his release and squat on underneath routes. Wims has the size and tools to work with, but he'll need to play to his size and continue to improve as a route runner. He has the potential to earn a spot at WR4 or WR5 as a pro.

Strengths
Very good size with impressive downfield ball skills
Doesn't have to track it to catch it
Makes catches with quick, late hands and sudden contortions in space
Makes adjustments to win catch positioning
Good high school rebounder who uses springs and basketball timing to snatch it at the highest point possible
Excels on back shoulder throws
Hands catcher
Developed high-knee stutter-step to generate uncertainty and push for improved throwing window on hitch routes
Has size as wall-off blocker and to crack down on the edge

Weaknesses
Lacks sudden feet and smart hands to rid himself of pesky press corners
Too often hemmed up and taken off route schedule
Benefitted from loads of hitch throws and comebacks
Missing jets to climb past coverage and separate
Physical corners crowd him against the boundary on outside release
Route speed is dull
Lacks separation acceleration out of short and intermediate breaks
Needs to use big frame to shield catch point
Inconsistent finisher on tightly-contested catches
Drops came when lead into traffic
Average run-after-catch talent
Can become more aggressive as blocker




Looks to be a red-zone guy.





For a final pick they could have done a lot worse. If you look at his measurables alone, he compares fairly to almost any WR in this draft. Small sample size of experience tho, so this pick is really throwing the coaches a blank canvas and saying 'paint me something'. I think this kid may have potential to be one of the steals of the draft. Also like that he played against the very highest competition in the SEC and showed a little bit.

I agree. When he was drafted I was trying to remember where I heard the name and then I remembered he was the same kid making plays in the college playoff.

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Scouting reports are weird. It would be fun to create them for board posters, though.


This would be outstanding.

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FrankDrebin wrote:
Javon Wims, WR Georgia 6'3 215

Overview
Improving prospect with good size and great ball skills, but a lack of suddenness and long speed. He created a highlight reel full of impressive catches in 2017, but he will have to prove he can free himself from press corners looking to jam his release and squat on underneath routes. Wims has the size and tools to work with, but he'll need to play to his size and continue to improve as a route runner. He has the potential to earn a spot at WR4 or WR5 as a pro.

Strengths
Very good size with impressive downfield ball skills
Doesn't have to track it to catch it
Makes catches with quick, late hands and sudden contortions in space
Makes adjustments to win catch positioning
Good high school rebounder who uses springs and basketball timing to snatch it at the highest point possible
Excels on back shoulder throws
Hands catcher
Developed high-knee stutter-step to generate uncertainty and push for improved throwing window on hitch routes
Has size as wall-off blocker and to crack down on the edge

Weaknesses
Lacks sudden feet and smart hands to rid himself of pesky press corners
Too often hemmed up and taken off route schedule
Benefitted from loads of hitch throws and comebacks
Missing jets to climb past coverage and separate
Physical corners crowd him against the boundary on outside release
Route speed is dull
Lacks separation acceleration out of short and intermediate breaks
Needs to use big frame to shield catch point
Inconsistent finisher on tightly-contested catches
Drops came when lead into traffic
Average run-after-catch talent
Can become more aggressive as blocker




Looks to be a red-zone guy.





For a final pick they could have done a lot worse. If you look at his measurables alone, he compares fairly to almost any WR in this draft. Small sample size of experience tho, so this pick is really throwing the coaches a blank canvas and saying 'paint me something'. I think this kid may have potential to be one of the steals of the draft. Also like that he played against the very highest competition in the SEC and showed a little bit.

I agree. When he was drafted I was trying to remember where I heard the name and then I remembered he was the same kid making plays in the college playoff.



Yeah, we'll see tho. But from a size/strength/speed standpoint, I like the potential.

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Pros: he talks sports
Cons: he talks sports like a burrito


America

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- relentless pursuit of homophobic slurs and hyperbole keeps board activity hot
- bad football thoughts are plentiful, but the volume of them is such that board activity appears high

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- tore several muscles in his shoulders and neck in the early goings of 2018 attempting autofellatio, so keyboard skills may slow down over time
- addiction to drinking pig cum is of great concern to the board training staff

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Scouting reports are weird. It would be fun to create them for board posters, though.



lol



Ive posted on another forum pretty regularly for some years now (Sherdog) -and we did something similar in the OT there, if people are willing to put a little effort into it, it's actually pretty amusing.

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Dewskie

Pros: he talks sports
Cons: he talks sports like a burrito


America

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- relentless pursuit of homophobic slurs and hyperbole keeps board activity hot
- bad football thoughts are plentiful, but the volume of them is such that board activity appears high

WEAKNESSES

- tore several muscles in his shoulders and neck in the early goings of 2018 attempting autofellatio, so keyboard skills may slow down over time
- addiction to drinking pig cum is of great concern to the board training staff


:lol: @ both. This would be great.

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