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Great chance to scout guys today in the playoff games.

The Texas LT, Ohio State DE, and a few Georgia players are showing up on Bears mocks.


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Hmm..well here is what Nardi did not see. Mocks have Bears possibly taking the Texas LT or George DE or S in first round, maybe Ohio State or George guard in second, and a running back in 4th or 5th round.

Texas LT looked average.

Georgia guard looked OK.

George DE and S looked good.

Ohio State DE looked really good.

Nardi's guy Skattebo made himself a bunch of money, likely moved up a round.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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the Texas DL looked fantastic

Don't forget Abdul Clark for PSU at DL. He was a wrecking ball against BSU, but that is a step down in competition.

I think the pick is going to be a pass rusher. OL looks very strong in this draft and they have two high second rounders. I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

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OL looks very strong in this draft




How so? Most of the top tackles in this draft project as guards at the next level and Center has no real high quality talent coming out this year. Interior looks about the same as every year

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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Did some reading this morning on the draft and it does appear like center is really weak this year. So they better get the top C available in FA.

I am good with going top edge available with their first round pick and then one of the two second rounders has to be OL. I would prefer both of the 2nd rounders are OL.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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NME wrote:
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OL looks very strong in this draft




How so? Most of the top tackles in this draft project as guards at the next level and Center has no real high quality talent coming out this year. Interior looks about the same as every year


a lot of those projections are based in a bias against arm length BUT, we currently have zero 2025 IOL starters on the team. I could make an argument that we have an acceptable tandem of OT if we can get the interior fixed.

I am picturing a draft like Abdul Carter from PSU or Mychel Williams from UGA as edges in the first and then follow up with the massive OT from Arizona or Minny in the second.

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OL looks very strong in this draft




How so? Most of the top tackles in this draft project as guards at the next level and Center has no real high quality talent coming out this year. Interior looks about the same as every year


a lot of those projections are based in a bias against arm length BUT, we currently have zero 2025 IOL starters on the team. I could make an argument that we have an acceptable tandem of OT if we can get the interior fixed.

I am picturing a draft like Abdul Carter from PSU or Mychel Williams from UGA as edges in the first and then follow up with the massive OT from Arizona or Minny in the second.


Warming up to drafting Carter is he is there, great ability to bend and get the edge, was also impressed by Williams, great technique, will be a good pro.

Drafting one of the huge college LTs and moving him inside makes sense, you have to get bigger and more physical across the line.

The Alabama kid is the top rated center, way too small to stand up in the NFL, this is a glaring weakness on the team. Do think a quality vet that can help make the line calls is essential as you watched Caleb flail away trying to call protections all year long, not sure what Poles/Eberflus were thinking when they put all that on a rookie.

Your second pick in the second round and third rounder should go to best interior lineman available.

They need to get moving on the GM/HC changes. If it's Vrabel you have to totally redo the D as he is a 3-4 base guy, he would also totally redo the o line and want a big back. If it's Ben Johnson, you have a total revamp of the o line and will be looking for a top level RB.

However, the most likely scenario is that they hire the fourth or fifth choice at HC and Poles is back out there drafting the lengthy, athletic guys that have done nothing in college that he covets and we are doing it all again next season.


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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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Warming up to drafting Carter is he is there, great ability to bend and get the edge, was also impressed by Williams, great technique, will be a good pro.

Drafting one of the huge college LTs and moving him inside makes sense, you have to get bigger and more physical across the line.

The Alabama kid is the top rated center, way too small to stand up in the NFL, this is a glaring weakness on the team. Do think a quality vet that can help make the line calls is essential as you watched Caleb flail away trying to call protections all year long, not sure what Poles/Eberflus were thinking when they put all that on a rookie.

Your second pick in the second round and third rounder should go to best interior lineman available.

They need to get moving on the GM/HC changes. If it's Vrabel you have to totally redo the D as he is a 3-4 base guy, he would also totally redo the o line and want a big back. If it's Ben Johnson, you have a total revamp of the o line and will be looking for a top level RB.

However, the most likely scenario is that they hire the fourth or fifth choice at HC and Poles is back out there drafting the lengthy, athletic guys that have done nothing in college that he covets and we are doing it all again next season.




Agreed with pretty much everything here. Draft D-line with the 1st pick (better value at D-line the earlier you go) draft O-line after that as there will still be high value at interior in the 2nd.


Sounds about right to me with both Vrabel and Johnson as far as how they’d want to build. Also sounds right to me that the Bears most likely won’t land either of those candidates, Poles is too weak incompetent and stupid to make a legit run at them and the Bears brass is just dumb enough to let him fuck this all up again.


Poles will once again pick guys that don’t look good on film but were ‘highly recruited’ coming out of high school with good RAS scores that need to be coached up to even resemble anything competent -which is where I think he may reach for Flores.


Flores is a discount Vrabel -red ass coach hard type guy who will push players to the brink. It will most likely blow up quickly after the lack of talent shows, Flores pushes too hard, and Vets go full on Rambo in the locker room already suffering from the PTSD of the Eberflus years and we’ll be back at this bullshit again a season or two from now when everyone is fucking launched.

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Really need to get Poles out of there so that the roster can be evaluated, too much heavy lifting is needed and many of the Poles signings and draft picks will need to be cut or traded.

Do not see any leaders on this roster, only a handful of guys that are worth keeping.


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The Texas LT is getting mocked to the Bears in a lot of early write ups.

Hard to tell a whole lot tonight aside from the fact he’s gigantic.

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I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

get familiar with Josh Myers


I'm also interested to see if this Ricky Stromberg was cut by the Commanders because of injury or inability. He was a third rounder in 23 and never played a game. As frustrating as that is, if you thought he had potential wouldn't they have just put him on IR for a second year in a row? Maybe he was too injured to get any kind of feel. Anyway, he's missed two straight seasons and you'd obviously need to sign more reliable options.

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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

get familiar with Josh Myers


I'm also interested to see if this Ricky Stromberg was cut by the Commanders because of injury or inability. He was a third rounder in 23 and never played a game. As frustrating as that is, if you thought he had potential wouldn't they have just put him on IR for a second year in a row? Maybe he was too injured to get any kind of feel. Anyway, he's missed two straight seasons and you'd obviously need to sign more reliable options.

Former Arkansas guy, knee pain is an issue and also strength at the point of attack.

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I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

get familiar with Josh Myers


I'm also interested to see if this Ricky Stromberg was cut by the Commanders because of injury or inability. He was a third rounder in 23 and never played a game. As frustrating as that is, if you thought he had potential wouldn't they have just put him on IR for a second year in a row? Maybe he was too injured to get any kind of feel. Anyway, he's missed two straight seasons and you'd obviously need to sign more reliable options.

Former Arkansas guy, knee pain is an issue and also strength at the point of attack.


seems to be a frequent issue with centers but so many of them are the smallest player on the line. He's pure development at this point for the Bears even though he was a third rounder for the commanders.

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The Texas LT is getting mocked to the Bears in a lot of early write ups.

Hard to tell a whole lot tonight aside from the fact he’s gigantic.


I don't think he'll be there at #10.


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The Texas LT is getting mocked to the Bears in a lot of early write ups.

Hard to tell a whole lot tonight aside from the fact he’s gigantic.


I don't think he'll be there at #10.

If he lasts to ten he’s not as good as you thought he was.


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The Texas LT is getting mocked to the Bears in a lot of early write ups.

Hard to tell a whole lot tonight aside from the fact he’s gigantic.


I don't think he'll be there at #10.

If he lasts to ten he’s not as good as you thought he was.

A weak QB draft hurts a very desperate Bears team.

Nobody is going to panic trade into the top 10 to get Jaxson Dart.

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The Texas LT is getting mocked to the Bears in a lot of early write ups.

Hard to tell a whole lot tonight aside from the fact he’s gigantic.


I don't think he'll be there at #10.

If he lasts to ten he’s not as good as you thought he was.

A weak QB draft hurts a very desperate Bears team.

Nobody is going to panic trade into the top 10 to get Jaxson Dart.

Yup, all the QB needy teams will be looking for their cornerstone left tackle (or whatever elite offensive lineman) and a one-year bridge quarterback. You know its going to be a rough first 15-20 games out of any offensive lineman, even the ones who turn out elite like Penei Sewell, might as well get that done with Zach Wilson or Daniel Jones at quarterback instead of your future of the franchise.


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 Post subject: Re: 2025 Draft
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I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

get familiar with Josh Myers


From what I've seen, OL free agency is thin. There will probably be some large contracts for the quality that is available.

Have to assume that Braxton Jones is back, most likely at LT, but possibly elsewhere if the draft changes that. Darnell Wright would be at RT, but 3 open spots. Perhaps 1 G spot is filled with a training camp competition between guys like Pryor/Bates...Kiram is likely depth unless they get really brave and see him as a possible starter, but that seems extremely unrealistic....Shelton should be resigned, but as depth, not as a starter. So, they have about 6 of 9 probably on the roster currently, but need to add at least 2 OL in the first 3-4 rounds with 1 being a day 1 starter and another free agent or two (like Myers)


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I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

get familiar with Josh Myers

Myers is a hard one to evaluate. PFF hates him but the Packers coaches (seemingly) love him.

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Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
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I also think they will have to spend FA money on a C.

get familiar with Josh Myers

Myers is a hard one to evaluate. PFF hates him but the Packers coaches (seemingly) love him.

Very smart center that gets the line calls correct, I just think he lacks the strength to be a high quality center but a good player and I wouldn’t be opposed to him returning in Green Bay.

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Let's not make this difficult. Take a pass rusher in a rich pass rusher draft or Graham from Michigan if everyone jumps at edges and he falls.

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Let's not make this difficult. Take a pass rusher in a rich pass rusher draft or Graham from Michigan if everyone jumps at edges and he falls.




Carter (most likely won’t be there by time the Bears draft) is the edge I like. If he’s there, he’s the guy

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Let's not make this difficult. Take a pass rusher in a rich pass rusher draft or Graham from Michigan if everyone jumps at edges and he falls.




Carter (most likely won’t be there by time the Bears draft) is the edge I like. If he’s there, he’s the guy


Yup, Carter is moving up in the recent mocks, should have a shot at one of the LT guys, but both have question marks, but we have a GM that felt Amegadjie and Borom were NFL left tackles, Campbell and Banks are far superior prospects to anything on the Bears roster.


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Carter has zero shot to be there at 10.

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Carter has zero shot to be there at 10.

How’s his driving record look?

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Carter has zero shot to be there at 10.

How’s his driving record look?


hey at least we got a very mid right tackle and a 4th round pick in exchange for not taking an elite DT in jalen carter


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Carter has zero shot to be there at 10.


no, but there will be another edge talent worthy of being taken there. Its a great edge draft

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A lot will probably change, but in the top 9, I think we can currently expect these guys to be gone (in no order):

- Travis Hunter
- Cam Ward
- Abdul Carter
- Shadeur Sanders

From there, it's probably a matter of team needs/rankings, but I think the Bears would likely pick from this range

-Brugler has Banks going 18 (other's have him going top 10).
- Armand Membou (OT/G), Missouri
- Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio State
- Malaki Starks, S, Georgia (probably unlikely for the Bears)
- Jalon Walker, Edge, Georgia
- Mason Graham, DT, Michigan (I still think he finds his way into the Top 10)
- Will Campbell, OT/G, LSU


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