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That Everett deal looks brutal, ended up paying him $6 million for 8 catches, bet they would love to get out from under the Edmunds deal, but that would involve tons of dead cap money.

They have plenty of cash to go out and get two top FA lineman, they days of shopping at the bargain bin and giving below replacement level guys starting gigs needs to come to an end.

Have to hope they have vastly improved whatever failed player evaluation system they were using previously, some tremendous fails in the draft and FA so far for Poles and Ian Cunningham, perhaps having Johnson and Allen in the room will prevent Poles from flailing around on draft day and reaching for guys like Velus Jones.


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That Everett deal looks brutal, ended up paying him $6 million for 8 catches, bet they would love to get out from under the Edmunds deal, but that would involve tons of dead cap money.

They have plenty of cash to go out and get two top FA lineman, they days of shopping at the bargain bin and giving below replacement level guys starting gigs needs to come to an end.

Have to hope they have vastly improved whatever failed player evaluation system they were using previously, some tremendous fails in the draft and FA so far for Poles and Ian Cunningham, perhaps having Johnson and Allen in the room will prevent Poles from flailing around on draft day and reaching for guys like Velus Jones.


I think we may see Edmunds moved to OLB if he is on the team next season.

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Edmunds could be interesting as a blitzer or a guy just covering the flats. His run defense might even improve too not having to move thru as much traffic. I think his biggest issue is effort more than anything because he definitely has the tool set to play big when he applies himself.


What worries me is even McDermott couldn’t get the effort out of him all the time.

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Bears trade 6th round 2025 pick to Rams for Jonah Jackson interior offensive lineman

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Bears trade 6th round 2025 pick to Rams for Jonah Jackson interior offensive lineman

Seems competent when healthy. History with Johnson. Not the typical Poles project, but I hope they’re not penciling him in as a starter just yet.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Bears trade 6th round 2025 pick to Rams for Jonah Jackson interior offensive lineman

Seems competent when healthy. History with Johnson. Not the typical Poles project, but I hope they’re not penciling him in as a starter just yet.

I believe you are right he was with Johnson in Detroit.

With the current shape of the line you could be penciled in as a starter.

Seems like a solid possibility to take over at guard.

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Bears trade 6th round 2025 pick to Rams for Jonah Jackson interior offensive lineman


Quality player.

Sign a free agent guard, and you know they will be drafting a DL at #10.

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Not gonna act like the sky is falling over one little trade, but this is shaping up to be classic Bears. Needs based roster management, an attempt to push all your chips in to get over the mountaintop of ten wins for just one year before it all starts to fall apart. Using free agency as a cover to allow them to chase their own tails in the draft covering for past mistakes.

Just take the best fucking player. Please don’t have us looking back at the 2025 draft the same way we look at 2023 when the Bears missed out on Jalen Carter and 2024 when the Bears missed out on Brock Bowers and Jared Verse (not to mention Jayden Daniels).


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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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Bears trade 6th round 2025 pick to Rams for Jonah Jackson interior offensive lineman

Seems competent when healthy. History with Johnson. Not the typical Poles project, but I hope they’re not penciling him in as a starter just yet.


$17 million this year. 61 starts in five years with better OL than we have. Played for Johnson, so he clearly was happy to have him play for him again. He better start. Not penciled in. He is penned in to a starting position

He can play center. That's interesting.

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Not gonna act like the sky is falling over one little trade, but this is shaping up to be classic Bears. Needs based roster management, an attempt to push all your chips in to get over the mountaintop of ten wins for just one year before it all starts to fall apart. Using free agency as a cover to allow them to chase their own tails in the draft covering for past mistakes.

Just take the best fucking player. Please don’t have us looking back at the 2025 draft the same way we look at 2023 when the Bears missed out on Jalen Carter and 2024 when the Bears missed out on Brock Bowers and Jared Verse (not to mention Jayden Daniels).


Another example of whatever they do you are going to complain.

A 6th round pick for a 28 yr old starting guard.

There are a lot of things to complain about in regard to the Bears right now, but this does not even come close to registering.

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Ah, the time honored tradition of Poles sending draft picks for players that were going to be released in a manner of weeks.


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RFDC wrote:
USA wrote:
Not gonna act like the sky is falling over one little trade, but this is shaping up to be classic Bears. Needs based roster management, an attempt to push all your chips in to get over the mountaintop of ten wins for just one year before it all starts to fall apart. Using free agency as a cover to allow them to chase their own tails in the draft covering for past mistakes.

Just take the best fucking player. Please don’t have us looking back at the 2025 draft the same way we look at 2023 when the Bears missed out on Jalen Carter and 2024 when the Bears missed out on Brock Bowers and Jared Verse (not to mention Jayden Daniels).


Another example of whatever they do you are going to complain.

A 6th round pick for a 28 yr old starting guard.

There are a lot of things to complain about in regard to the Bears right now, but this does not even come close to registering.


Who's the current best OG in FA? Mekhi Becton, maybe. Jackson is better than him. It's a bad FA group for Bears needs, including center. I would not sign Teven Jenkins under any circumstances, although Jackson has some missed games himself.

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Not gonna act like the sky is falling over one little trade, but this is shaping up to be classic Bears. Needs based roster management, an attempt to push all your chips in to get over the mountaintop of ten wins for just one year before it all starts to fall apart. Using free agency as a cover to allow them to chase their own tails in the draft covering for past mistakes.

Just take the best fucking player. Please don’t have us looking back at the 2025 draft the same way we look at 2023 when the Bears missed out on Jalen Carter and 2024 when the Bears missed out on Brock Bowers and Jared Verse (not to mention Jayden Daniels).


Another example of whatever they do you are going to complain.

A 6th round pick for a 28 yr old starting guard.

There are a lot of things to complain about in regard to the Bears right now, but this does not even come close to registering.


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Ah, the time honored tradition of Poles sending draft picks for players that were going to be released in a manner of weeks.




My 1st thoughts too. It’s only the 6th they got for Justin but still can’t help but wonder.. Tre Smith was a 6th round pick. This guy just doesn’t seem to want to build thru the draft or be patient and see who he can sign when FA begins.

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we couldnt even get the 7th back? thats usually how these go down player and 7th for 6th. I have low expectations. teams find a way to keep a quality lineman.

This blurb on sanborn from florio
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can you really get a decent LB for less than that per year?


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RFDC wrote:
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Not gonna act like the sky is falling over one little trade, but this is shaping up to be classic Bears. Needs based roster management, an attempt to push all your chips in to get over the mountaintop of ten wins for just one year before it all starts to fall apart. Using free agency as a cover to allow them to chase their own tails in the draft covering for past mistakes.

Just take the best fucking player. Please don’t have us looking back at the 2025 draft the same way we look at 2023 when the Bears missed out on Jalen Carter and 2024 when the Bears missed out on Brock Bowers and Jared Verse (not to mention Jayden Daniels).


Another example of whatever they do you are going to complain.

A 6th round pick for a 28 yr old starting guard.

There are a lot of things to complain about in regard to the Bears right now, but this does not even come close to registering.

The problem is you could’ve hade Dominick Puni instead of Kieran Amegadjie. Just like they could’ve had Cooper DeJean with the pick they used on Montez Sweat, who is already on the downslope of his career after getting a massive payday.

They shouldn’t need to be making trades like these. This is the type of trade you make mid season when you lose both your starting guards to injury, not the type of trade you make for a player who is now penned in as one of your starting guards on March 4th. This shit is why we can’t have nice things, now the Bears will pat themselves on the back on a “job well done fixing one of their needs before the league year even started”. Meanwhile this dude will be a pariah figure in Chicago by week six.


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That Everett deal looks brutal, ended up paying him $6 million for 8 catches


that was waldron's fault. everett is one of his guys like travis homer. Everrett outsnapped kmet week 1 and then was playing 30% of snaps (15 to 25 snapes) until Waldron was fired... then he was averaging less than 10 snaps a game.


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Bears trade 6th round 2025 pick to Rams for Jonah Jackson interior offensive lineman

Considering the low probability of 6th rounders becoming regular contributors, trading this pick is a good call.

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Would agree, but they are taking on salary as well...hope he works out...depth is as important as your front lines here


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Considering the low probability of 6th rounders becoming regular contributors, trading this pick is a good call.

This is a bad way to look at it. First, if a 6th rounder hits, the asymmetrical upside is enormous, so it's not just a matter of hit rate. Also, if this guy was on the FA market, he likely wouldn't command $17.5M/year (even with the low supply and high demand for quality OL, by all accounts hes somewhere between below average and average).

So it's probably a bad move. Might turn out ok though. Don't think it's really worthy of criticism or praise by itself but agree with America that it does continue a trend of Poles not trusting himself with the draft which is a pretty glaring red flag.

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Bears trade 6th round 2025 pick to Rams for Jonah Jackson interior offensive lineman

Considering the low probability of 6th rounders becoming regular contributors, trading this pick is a good call.

This is a bad way to look at it. First, if a 6th rounder hits, the asymmetrical upside is enormous, so it's not just a matter of hit rate. Also, if this guy was on the FA market, he likely wouldn't command $17.5M/year (even with the low supply and high demand for quality OL, by all accounts hes somewhere between below average and average).

So it's probably a bad move. Might turn out ok though. Don't think it's really worthy of criticism or praise by itself but agree with America that it does continue a trend of Poles not trusting himself with the draft which is a pretty glaring red flag.


I don’t know this guy so this isn’t really about him. don't you think though in this FA market and higher cap a starting OL may make on average 15-17M$?

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Sixth round picks aren’t just lottery tickets. That’s where you get a lot of your depth, specialists and situational players too.

But it’s not about the pick really. It’s just a bad omen that nothing really has changed after hiring Ben Johnson. If the Bears had any confidence in this player develop machine they purport to be building they should be selling off spare parts for picks, not the other way around.

If you want to compete in this division with three high functioning, very good franchises you gotta build it from the ground up. Pushing all your chips in to capitalize on a cyclical competitive window (which I’m pretty sure isn’t even open in the first place) is stupid. Develop, build, do this way the Detroit did.


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When you draft poorly you have to throw resources away and hope you get lucky with a guy that can come in and patch up a roster hole your GM created by missing on draft picks.

The hope here is that Johnson can direct Poles toward the right lineman because Poles has shown less than no ability to identify offensive and defensive line talent. Think they would like to bring in a veteran center, makes way too much sense to have someone help Caleb make the line calls.

The draft supposedly has tons of edge rush talent, with good players available into the 3rd round, still think you take a shot at a LT at #10, but your roster has so many holes that you could just draft the best player available in each round.


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Did both Cunningham and Johnson sign off on this? If so I am good.

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wrap him in bubble wrap until September. 32 years old. depsite these 2 moves, still prefer they go o-line with 2 of the first 3 picks


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I think this pretty much guarantees they go DLine with the first round pick.

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