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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:18 am 
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So, the question remains, is there a college job that he got passed over for?
Miami.

My attempt at humor failed, it was a dig at Minnesota. Carry on with your coach search, I will show my way out.


and here I was giving you credit for "passed over" being a play on his religious/ethnic heritage

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Your wording is hilarious. He "pushed" to get the job? What's the difference between "pushing" and interviewing?

Using media connections to float your name as a candidate is one difference.

Says he interviewed in 2007:

http://www.twincities.com/ci_16391154

I was talking about whenever Kill was hired. You seem surprised that coaches do this.

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I can't be comfortable with Trestman until I hear a good explanation of two things: 1)why his NFL career involved so many frequent job changes; and 2)why his coaching services have not been sought in the NFL since 2004.


My comfort with the trio is that two of the three are guys I would like to see as Bear HC, not in Trestman heading the list.

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good dolphin wrote:
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So, the question remains, is there a college job that he got passed over for?
Miami.

My attempt at humor failed, it was a dig at Minnesota. Carry on with your coach search, I will show my way out.


and here I was giving you credit for "passed over" being a play on his religious/ethnic heritage

I'm full of wit GD, thanks for noticing.

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Your wording is hilarious. He "pushed" to get the job? What's the difference between "pushing" and interviewing?

Using media connections to float your name as a candidate is one difference.

Says he interviewed in 2007:

http://www.twincities.com/ci_16391154

I was talking about whenever Kill was hired. You seem surprised that coaches do this.


Yea, I'm not. Just thought the word "pushing" was used intentionally due to your overwhelming dislike of him. Nothing more.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:35 am 
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Rosenbloom makes some solid points here IMO.
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Did Jimmy Johnson tweet anything else today?

Hey, don’t laugh. There’s more information about the Bears coaching search coming off a houseboat in Miami than from the offices in Lake Forest.

But until we see white smoke coming out of Halas Hall, we can take a look at general manager Phil Emery’s next phase, and there’s a lot to like.

For instance, here’s one reason to like Emery’s choices of Darrell Bevell, Marc Trestman and Bruce Arians as finalists to replace Lovie Smith: The GM saw the same miserable offense that you suffered through and decided that changes would have to start at the top.

So, instead of doing it the usual, clunky Bears way that results in hiring the "hot" defensive assistant who devolves into failure, Emery is dragging the heritage franchise into this offensive millennium.

Arians has some form of Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger and Andrew Luck -- their development and/or their offenses -- on his resume. Nice fantasy draft there, huh? Oh, and would you take Jay Cutler over any of those three?

Moving right along, Trestman goes back to his buddy Johnson’s University of Miami teams, coaching Bernie Kosar to big years in college and the pros and guiding Scott Mitchell and Rich Gannon to big seasons in the NFL. Yes, Scott Mitchell. Somewhere in that bunch has to be the combined experience to deal with Cutler’s lack of improvement, and look at that: Trestman worked with Cutler as he prepared for the NFL draft.

Bevell is younger than the other two, but the breadth of his offensive coordinator experience runs from Brett Favre to Russell Wilson. For what it’s worth, Bevell replaced Cutler quarterback wrangler Jeremy Bates as offensive coordinator in Seattle and had a better season with a rookie quarterback than Bates endured in a reunion with Cutler and Brandon Marshall that somehow made the Bears offense worse.

Here’s another reason to like Emery’s finalists: He wanted a coach who has displayed excellence, and his finalists appear excellent in deciding whether Cutler is worth a new contract.

Cutler needs work on his mechanics and his mental and emotional game. Nobody has to worry about Cutler’s arm or toughness, but his frequent regression to bad form and worse decisions under pressure is no way to win a Super Bowl. The new coach will be chosen to deliver those lessons.

You could argue that a seven-year quarterback already should’ve solved those problems, but I don’t think anyone would argue that the first coach Emery chooses represents the last chance for Cutler here.

Another reason to like Emery’s choices: Two of the three finalists have head-coaching experience, even if it’s not conventional NFL head-coaching experience. I think that’s important in this situation, starting with breaking the Bears’ "Peter Principle" practices. The Bears like to promote people beyond their level of capability, and it tends to involve family. Maybe people in Halas Hall can get over being intimidated by someone who has done the job before.

Arians stepped up to run the Indianapolis Colts after head coach Chuck Pagano was diagnosed with leukemia and went through treatment. Arians not only developed Luck into a playoff quarterback in his rookie season, but he also coached the worst team from last season into this year’s postseason. He’s your coach of the year, if anyone’s voting.

Trestman has coached the Montreal Alouettes for five years and won consecutive Grey Cup titles. The Canadian Football League is closer to U.S. college jobs than NFL jobs, but the fact that the Bears recognize some value in head-coaching experience at some professional level finally shows some adult thinking up there.

Tangent: If Trestman is the man, then can he also sneak P.K. Subban through customs for the Blackhawks?

Another reason to like Emery’s finalists: The offensive emphasis of the new coach probably means the Bears would try to keep defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli. Yeah, the defense is aging in spots, but Marinelli has developed some young quality along Julius Peppers’ defensive line, Lance Briggs is still a Pro Bowler no matter what voters say, and the cornerbacks steal games. That side of the ball isn’t the one that’s hooked up in the intensive care unit.

In my world, then, there are a lot of reasons to root for Emery at this point. I don’t know if he can make a wrong choice among his finalists, but I think he’d have a better chance of winning a Super Bowl with Arians or Trestman because they have head-coaching experience and more experience in wrangling a variety of quarterbacks. Their resumes are better than Cutler’s, and Cutler would know it. Cutler had better know what the deal is and know it quickly.

Oh, and here’s one last reason to like Emery’s choices: Nobody named McCaskey asked him to give a second interview to Mike Singletary.

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Sean Jensen thinks there may be a wildcard yet.


I hope he's right.

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I like the idea of hiring Bevel. I think he would be fresh ideas to the offense. The last time the Bears hired an offensive HC they won a SB. I don't like the idea of Trestman. Hiring the first gay coach isn't something that Bears fans would want or deserve. If you can't get a job in the NFL or college for a decade then that says you shouldn't be considered.


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Hiring the first gay coach isn't something that Bears fans would want or deserve.

Now he's a jewish burrito?
Bevell is a mormon.
Need more info on Arians.

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Hiring the first gay coach isn't something that Bears fans would want or deserve.


WTF is that supposed to mean?

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Hiring the first gay coach isn't something that Bears fans would want or deserve.

Now he's a jewish burrito?
Bevell is a mormon.
Need more info on Arians.

Arians - coached in Indiana

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Hiring the first gay coach isn't something that Bears fans would want or deserve.


WTF is that supposed to mean?


It was supposed to be a joke.


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Makaveli wrote:
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Hiring the first gay coach isn't something that Bears fans would want or deserve.


WTF is that supposed to mean?


It was supposed to be a joke.

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Makaveli wrote:
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Hiring the first gay coach isn't something that Bears fans would want or deserve.


WTF is that supposed to mean?


It was supposed to be a joke.

Nas, I think you are just misunderstood.

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I'm actually intrigued by Marc Trestman's overall body of work in BOTH the NFL & CFL. The SCORE's Laurence Holmes had a guy from BTN on his evening show last night who wrote on NFPost named Russ Lande. Russ told Laurence that if Trestman got the job, Jay Cutler would become an elite QB in this NFL.

However, despite Trestman's many years running NFL & CFL offenses, I'd be more comfortable with Colts' offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, despite recent health issues, running this storied franchise instead.


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Is there any word on when the 2nd interviews take place?

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Is there any word on when the 2nd interviews take place?


Trestman was all day yesterday, Bevell today and presumably Arians tomorrow (Arians not confirmed, yet).


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LaCanfora says he guesses they make a decision today. His prediction is Arians.


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LaCanfora says he guesses they make a decision today. His prediction is Arians.

Hmm that is odd, so does that mean they have already interviewed Arians a 2nd time?

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LaCanfora says he guesses they make a decision today. His prediction is Arians.

Hmm that is odd, so does that mean they have already interviewed Arians a 2nd time?


Biggs predicted a Wednesday announcement. If Arians is interviewing on Wednesday, it would make sense that he's the guy.

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[Need more info on Arians.


Steve is you man for this inquiry.

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Steve is you man for this inquiry.


I figured he was part of the nation.

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Forget who, but someone speculated he may do a phone interview for the second. Or he could in fact be the choice, hence the SD signing of McCoy and Arians cancellation of the Eagles interview.


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The only guy I see with upside is Trestman, but I fear he is the big fish from a little pond. None of these guys excite me. What about the rest of you cats?

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Forget who, but someone speculated he may do a phone interview for the second. Or he could in fact be the choice, hence the SD signing of McCoy and Arians cancellation of the Eagles interview.


I thought Arians cancelled the Philly interview because the assumption was Brian Kelly would be hired there.

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They could have simply merged the first and second interview and no second needed for Arians.

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The only guy I see with upside is Trestman, but I fear he is the big fish from a little pond. None of these guys excite me. What about the rest of you cats?


Arians is pretty much the NFL coach of the year. How often do you get someone like that without having to surrender anything? He has experience dealing with and devloping some of the top QB in the league. He worked with respected NFL offensive minds. Yes, his hiring would excite me.

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Forget who, but someone speculated he may do a phone interview for the second. Or he could in fact be the choice, hence the SD signing of McCoy and Arians cancellation of the Eagles interview.


I thought Arians cancelled the Philly interview because the assumption was Brian Kelly would be hired there.


No, it was supposed to be today or tomorrow I believe. News broke of the cancellation in the last 24 hours (this morning, IIRC).


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Bevell is a guy who retrofit an offense on the fly that was built for Flynn to accomdate the much different Wilson. He has also worked with/developed some of the great QB of the NFL. He is a guy a team can grow with as he is young but with experience.

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