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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:25 am 
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I like Trestman, but he is a LOSER. Plain as day. Like Charlie Brown with hair.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:26 am 
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OK but it's going to get full fast. The man can not coach.

That's a bit much.

Keep in mind EVERY NFL coach ever has made terribly dumb decisions.

Its one year and he fixed the offense. Give him another year


Did he really fix the offense? They upgraded the TE and line and Jeffrey went to the next level. Cutler didnt get any better and that was supposed to be his speciality.

The defense and ST got so much worse that any gains from his offense improvement were negated.

Of course a coach will make poor decisions, Trestman made way too many with the season on the line.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:28 am 
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rogers park bryan wrote:

Its one year and he fixed the offense. Give him another year


I haven't done a breakdown of offensive vs defensive/special team scoring, but this year's team scored about 4 more points per game more than last year's team. Not a radical improvement. I think the "eye test" generally supports your argument though.

I think a lot of the credit Trestman is getting is due to McCown's play. If McCown had performed like everyone expected--that is, like most other shitty backups we've had--people wouldn't be so high on Trestman's offensive wizardry. At the end of the day, the offense couldn't keep up with the better offenses in the league.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:29 am 
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
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I'm not there yet but save a seat for me on this wagon.


OK but it's going to get full fast. The man can not coach.

That's a bit much.

Keep in mind EVERY NFL coach ever has made terribly dumb decisions.

Its one year and he fixed the offense. Give him another year


Did he really fix the offense? They upgraded the TE and line and Jeffrey went to the next level. Cutler didnt get any better and that was supposed to be his speciality.

Did a journeyman 34 year old QB look like a Pro Bowler?

Yeah, Id say he fixed it


Hank Scorpio wrote:
[The defense and ST got so much worse that any gains from his offense improvement were negated.

Of course a coach will make poor decisions, Trestman made way too many with the season on the line.

I disagree with judging him on one year


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:31 am 
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:

Its one year and he fixed the offense. Give him another year


I haven't done a breakdown of offensive vs defensive/special team scoring, but this year's team scored about 4 more points per game more than last year's team. Not a radical improvement. I think the "eye test" generally supports your argument though.

Yeah, I think if you look at the defensive scores it will be more than 4 pts


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So if the Bears went 14-2 and Cutler broke every passing record would it be fair to judge Trestman after one season? You get judged based on what you do. It isnt a single game it's a full season. I'm not impressed.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:34 am 
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
So if the Bears went 14-2 and Cutler broke every passing record would it be fair to judge Trestman after one season? You get judged based on what you do. It isnt a single game it's a full season. I'm not impressed.

That kind of thinking led the Browns firing Bill Belicheck



Are you really saying one year is enough to judge an NFL coach? I dont think it is.


Luckily, teams like the Raiders and Browns agree with you


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:35 am 
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Look at the "total offense" on NFL.com. Bears are 8 this year, 28 last in yards per game. 16 last and 2 this on points per game. That's a pretty good increase.


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Every coach makes bad decisions throughout the season. It happens. When they work the coach is great. When they fail its time to fire the coach.

If Cutler threw for 50 TD and 5000 yards it wouldn't be fair to set that as the standard for Trestman either.

Trestman needs to improve. He is a rookie NFL head coach. Keep in mind that he defense was completely riddled with injuries. That doesn't excuse the lack of preparedness at some points, but its a at least a somewhat valid excuse for the poor play.

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I'll calm down after some time but right now I see bad things in their future. Trading Lovie for Bizarro Lovie wasnt what I wanted for the Bears.

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I think the bigger question is why Cutler threw the Hail Mary on 3rd down rather than try to get a smaller chunk and then possibly having a much more manageable throw into the end zone on the final play. Was that Cutler's call or Trestman's?
Need a TD, I was fine with them taking as many shots at the end zone as they could. With the how the refs were and how the rules are, never know if you could get a flag in the end zone and get the ball at the one yard line. Game cannot end on a defensive penalty so even if the clock was zero the Bears would have been given one more play.

Marshall's drop hurt them the most in that regard. Would have been a first down with like 10 or 12 secs left, enough time for two cracks at the TD.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:10 pm 
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Fuck Trestman. He should get the Chudzinski treatment. He had a team stacked with offensive weapons with a new competent o-line, of course the fucking offense was going to be good. He cant make coaching decisions, he's Lovie 2.0. I want a coach that can actually think and make solid decisions. Quit giving the team a guy that is an idiot savant on one side of the ball.


Fuck.


I was leaning this way before McCown played and you still may be right. There may not be a team in the NFL NFL that have the Bears offensive talent. He could be a beneficiary of the Bears finally staffing that side of the offense with NFL players or Aaron Kromer could deserve the credit. He is the guy that puts the game plans together and worked with Trestman on creating the offense. Either way I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for AT LEAST another year.

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