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McCarthy is the choice for all those who thought John Fox was a slam dunk.


It beats those who thought that the "greatness" of! Caleb was a "slam dunk"

I promise if Caleb is as bad as Fields was by year 3, I won’t spend the next year sucking him off while he rides the pine in the AFC.

The funny thing is that exact argument, but with a G rating, is what got me the nickname Brick McCarver.

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From the Raiders/Johnson world :

"Johnson's initial plan was to take three interviews, with the Bears, Jacksonville Jaguars, and Patriots. But Brady's sell job, through intermediaries, made the difference," Breer wrote.



We wondered how much of an impact Brady would have for the Raiders, and so far it has been significant. Vincent Bonsignore of the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that owner Mark Davis was hesitant to fire Pierce and general manager Tom Telesco before Brady "nudged" him to do so


Bonsignore adds that if Johnson doesn't want the job, he thinks it'll go to former Seattle Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll. Bonsignore went on to say he hasn't heard anything about Johnson not wanting it, though.


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You would have to be a slow adult to be overly influenced about taking a position by a minority owner who has been with the organization for a year and who works another full time job.

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The Raiders haven't had a coach last more than four years since Art Shell was bounced in 1994 and he still got fired.

Say what you want about the Bears but it's a much better job for a coach than the Raiders have been.

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The Raiders haven't had a coach last more than four years since Art Shell was bounced in 1994 and he still got fired.

Say what you want about the Bears but it's a much better job for a coach than the Raiders have been.


They will pay top dollar and he will be able to name his gm. They pretty much gave him his ask.

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Watch Johnson just bounce back to Detroit after all this bullshit lol



Also, while the Bears obviously like Ben I’m still not convinced he’s ‘their guy’. I mean they’re now taking interviews that are completely pointless like the Packer OC who doesn’t do anything but hold the Flowers clipboard and keep his coffee hot.

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I think they want the appearance of being busy, which is the most important thing in the world to a glad handing do-nothing like Kevin Warren.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
I think they want the appearance of being busy, which is the most important thing in the world to a glad handing do-nothing like Kevin Warren.


Yup, you rarely see a guy that is so interested in appearances than George, but you can see why he loves Warren, they actually tried to BS you that he washes his own car, but you could plainly see that he just rinsed off his car with a hose for 30 seconds, it was a laughable attempt to make him look like a regular dude.

Then you saw the Hard Knocks clip of his office with several neatly stacked piles of paper, another silly effort to make him look engaged, everyone knows the world revolves around digital content, there is no need to have 50 copies of anything on your desk.

Of course you have him with the GSH pin, only outdone by the George wearing his pin, and of course Poles quoting from the book on leadership Warren assigned to him, contrast that with the other teams GM's who look like they have not slept for days because they are working around the clock to build a roster.

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You can't hire any currently employed NFL person until after this weekend. You can't hire anyone from a team still in the playoffs until after they aren't in the playoffs.

People would be complaining the Bears are doing nothing if they weren't interviewing a bunch of people with no chance of getting the job.

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You can't hire any currently employed NFL person until after this weekend. You can't hire anyone from a team still in the playoffs until after they aren't in the playoffs.

People would be complaining the Bears are doing nothing if they weren't interviewing a bunch of people with no chance of getting the job.


You talk to as many top NFL coordinators as possible to get their football information, stop wasting time with the college dudes, they cannot give you NFL level evaluations of your current talent, or give you thoughts on what they would do with your current talent.

Teams and agents are already talking, you are not hiring, but you are getting a feel for what your top candidate wants in the way of pay and roster control.

It's actually quite a simple process, but it involves several skills that nobody within the Bears organization possesses.


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McCarthy would be a massive disappointment. I'd rather take the chance we get the next Sean Peyton or Sean McVay instead of some guy that probably turns us into a decidedly average team. Is there no young coach named Sean available?


Agreed. And, looking good in Under Armour shirts must be a base-line qualifier.

anybody but McCarthy. I cannot take any more late game screwups, timeouts wasted, challenges wasted et al. I'd rather suck this bad than hire that guy.

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You can't hire any currently employed NFL person until after this weekend. You can't hire anyone from a team still in the playoffs until after they aren't in the playoffs.

People would be complaining the Bears are doing nothing if they weren't interviewing a bunch of people with no chance of getting the job.

Nobody would be complaining that the Bears hadn’t spoken to Drew Petzing or Mike Kafka yet.

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You can't hire any currently employed NFL person until after this weekend. You can't hire anyone from a team still in the playoffs until after they aren't in the playoffs.

People would be complaining the Bears are doing nothing if they weren't interviewing a bunch of people with no chance of getting the job.


You talk to as many top NFL coordinators as possible to get their football information, stop wasting time with the college dudes, they cannot give you NFL level evaluations of your current talent, or give you thoughts on what they would do with your current talent.

Teams and agents are already talking, you are not hiring, but you are getting a feel for what your top candidate wants in the way of pay and roster control.

It's actually quite a simple process, but it involves several skills that nobody within the Bears organization possesses.

Freeman is clearly a legitimate candidate.

So your issue is that they talked to Matt Campbell though they probably did that because they thought his brother coached in Detroit.

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City of Fools wrote:
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McCarthy would be a massive disappointment. I'd rather take the chance we get the next Sean Peyton or Sean McVay instead of some guy that probably turns us into a decidedly average team. Is there no young coach named Sean available?


Agreed. And, looking good in Under Armour shirts must be a base-line qualifier.

anybody but McCarthy. I cannot take any more late game screwups, timeouts wasted, challenges wasted et al. I'd rather suck this bad than hire that guy.

McCarthy and Payton have almost the exact records in their careers and one seems to be known as such a better coach, I don’t quite understand that.

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McCarthy would be a massive disappointment. I'd rather take the chance we get the next Sean Peyton or Sean McVay instead of some guy that probably turns us into a decidedly average team. Is there no young coach named Sean available?


Agreed. And, looking good in Under Armour shirts must be a base-line qualifier.

anybody but McCarthy. I cannot take any more late game screwups, timeouts wasted, challenges wasted et al. I'd rather suck this bad than hire that guy.

McCarthy and Payton have almost the exact records in their careers and one seems to be known as such a better coach, I don’t quite understand that.

I’m not a huge Payton guy but McCarthy’s time has passed. He was a good coach early and into the middle of his career, but he never evolved as the game changed, which inevitably led to a season ending in disappointment.

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:
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McCarthy is the choice for all those who thought John Fox was a slam dunk.


It beats those who thought that the "greatness" of! Caleb was a "slam dunk"

I promise if Caleb is as bad as Fields was by year 3, I won’t spend the next year sucking him off while he rides the pine in the AFC.


You went from pumping Caleb as a "can't miss" "generational" prospect to."he's just another rookie" who suffers from bad coaching as soon as the games started. And made excuse after excuse for an entire season as to why sucked ass. Fact is REAL Chicago Bears told Poles and you dopes the best course of action to take and you were "cocksure" in your belief that they should go elsewhere.

Now you are "pining" and "sucking" off the messiah coach in Ben Johnson, (just as you sucked off the messiah QB in Caleb last season) as the savior. Even though he is just as untested as a Head Coach as Bum ass Caleb was as an NFL QB. Fact is the Bears were better with Justin Fields last season. And until the "Generational One" shows otherwise, he was the better option. .

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Brick wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
McCarthy is the choice for all those who thought John Fox was a slam dunk.


It beats those who thought that the "greatness" of! Caleb was a "slam dunk"

I promise if Caleb is as bad as Fields was by year 3, I won’t spend the next year sucking him off while he rides the pine in the AFC.

The funny thing is that exact argument, but with a G rating, is what got me the nickname Brick McCarver.


All your "logic" has done is placed the Bears in a much worse position at the conclusion of this season than they were in at the conclusion of last season. Congrats!

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Seeing as Detroit is #1 in points and #2 in yardage with a Sean McVay castoff, I think Johnson's the guy you put as your #1 choice. Unfortunately, the Bears are dysfunctional and more than likely he or they will make another HC choice.


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Seeing as Detroit is #1 in points and #2 in yardage with a Sean McVay castoff, I think Johnson's the guy you put as your #1 choice. Unfortunately, the Bears are dysfunctional and more than likely he or they will make another HC choice.

Alternatively, you could bring over Goff, Gibbs, Ra St-Brown, LaPorta, and the Lions’ O-line.

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Nardi wrote:
Seeing as Detroit is #1 in points and #2 in yardage with a Sean McVay castoff, I think Johnson's the guy you put as your #1 choice. Unfortunately, the Bears are dysfunctional and more than likely he or they will make another HC choice.

If he doesn't want the gig then there will be nothing that the Bears can do. Even if he is their top choice it won't matter if they are his 4th.

And I'd rather have a castoff that has had success elsewhere than an unproven Head Coach any day.

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Per George Ofman, Warren is “enamored” with Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman.



Didn't know this :


only 7 out of 32 NFL coaches make more than Marcus Freeman, and all of them have either won a Super Bowl or been to multiple of them.


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The McCaskeys, Kevinn Warren, and Ryan Poles are still in place and not going anywhere...I don't care who they hire as coach.

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The Doctor Of Style wrote:
This Ends in Antioch wrote:
The Doctor Of Style wrote:
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McCarthy is the choice for all those who thought John Fox was a slam dunk.


It beats those who thought that the "greatness" of! Caleb was a "slam dunk"

I promise if Caleb is as bad as Fields was by year 3, I won’t spend the next year sucking him off while he rides the pine in the AFC.


You went from pumping Caleb as a "can't miss" prospect to."he's just another rookie" who suffers from bad coaching as soon as the games started. And made excuse after excuse for an entire season as to why sucked ass. Fact is REAL Chicago Bears told Poles and you dopes the best course of action to take and you were "cocksure" in your belief that they should go elsewhere.
I never said he’s just another rookie. You’re just making things up at this point. I’ve said he’s the best QB the Bears have had in a long time already and I think that’s easily supportable. USA offered up Mitch’s one year as a counter. That’s arguable. You’ve offered up Justin Fields - but only in some games, in certain scenarios and definitely not a full season - which is hilarious.

No TRUE BIG HETEROSEXUAL BEAR FANS wanted to keep Fields. It was a cult. It still is a cult, but the more sensible members left the party.

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Now you are "pining" and "sucking" off the messiah coach in Ben Johnson, (just as you sucked off the messiah QB in Caleb last season) as the savior. Even though he is just as untested as a Head Coach as Bum ass Caleb was as an NFL QB. Fact is the Bears were better with Justin Fields last season. And until the "Generational One" shows otherwise, he was the better option.
This is again where your insatiable lust for Fields shines through.


I started the hire Ben Johnson thing 18 months ago. If Fields had shown capable of being a starting NFL QB during his 3yr audition, it’d have been fine for him to stick around to work with Johnson. He wasn’t so he’s not.

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I started the hire Ben Johnson thing 18 months ago. If Fields had shown capable of being a starting NFL QB during his 3yr audition, it’d have been fine for him to stick around to work with Johnson. He wasn’t so he’s not.


They are facts. Not what you "believe". The Bears were better with Justin Fields as their QB last season. Which is why Bears fans chanted at Soldier Field for them to keep him.
And Pittsburgh was better than the Bears with him as their QB this season. Thus all of your gibberish about who is a backup is malarkey..You advocated for the guy that is currently one of the worst QBs in the league to be their QB and it failed miserably To the point where you have to advocate for the "messiah coach" to come in and save him. And when Johnson doesn't sign, you'll be back to blaming ownership for failing to get the guy you wanted.

The Bears were on an upswing with Justin Fields as their QB. Which is why REAL BEARS Fans (as opposed to internet trolls) wanted them to retain him. Instead they didn't and now it's back to the same ol gibberish. Bitching about ownership, coaches and trolling Packer fans.

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Fields won meaningless games at the end of the year after his horrible play early on took them out of it. It was like a Caleb Williams game that lasted four months.

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McCarthy would be a massive disappointment. I'd rather take the chance we get the next Sean Peyton or Sean McVay instead of some guy that probably turns us into a decidedly average team. Is there no young coach named Sean available?


Agreed. And, looking good in Under Armour shirts must be a base-line qualifier.

anybody but McCarthy. I cannot take any more late game screwups, timeouts wasted, challenges wasted et al. I'd rather suck this bad than hire that guy.

McCarthy and Payton have almost the exact records in their careers and one seems to be known as such a better coach, I don’t quite understand that.


Could be McCarthy essentially wasting Rodgers prime and the spectacular playoff failures, like a 15-1 team getting blown out at home in their first playoff game. People tend to remember stuff like that.

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Fields won meaningless games at the end of the year after his horrible play early on took them out of it. It was like a Caleb Williams game that lasted four months.


Nah Dude. The Bears were up in the 4th (2 by multiple scores) in 3 other games which they eventually lost last season. And their offense was decidedly better. It was a no brainer move actually. Which is why REAL BEAR FANS wanted the Bears to make the move. Instead we are back to begging for the "messiah coach" to come in and fix everything once again. Good luck with that

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Per George Ofman, Warren is “enamored” with Notre Dame head coach Marcus Freeman.



Didn't know this :


only 7 out of 32 NFL coaches make more than Marcus Freeman, and all of them have either won a Super Bowl or been to multiple of them.


Freeman is only being considered because it's Notre Dame. There's no reason to interview him over say Kirby Smart or Ryan Day or JIM HARBUAGH or any other more successful college coach. It's just the classic Bears -ND connection.

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I started the hire Ben Johnson thing 18 months ago. If Fields had shown capable of being a starting NFL QB during his 3yr audition, it’d have been fine for him to stick around to work with Johnson. He wasn’t so he’s not.


They are facts. Not what you "believe". The Bears were better with Justin Fields as their QB last season. Which is why Bears fans chanted at Soldier Field for them to keep him.
And Pittsburgh was better than the Bears with him as their QB this season. Thus all of your gibberish about who is a backup is malarkey..You advocated for the guy that is currently one of the worst QBs in the league to be their QB and it failed miserably To the point where you have to advocate for the "messiah coach" to come in and save him. And when Johnson doesn't sign, you'll be back to blaming ownership for failing to get the guy you wanted.

The Bears were on an upswing with Justin Fields as their QB. Which is why REAL BEARS Fans (as opposed to internet trolls) wanted them to retain him. Instead they didn't and now it's back to the same ol gibberish. Bitching about ownership, coaches and trolling Packer fans.

with that line of logic, the Bears should sign Wilson. After all, he beat Fields out of a job with Tomlin making that decision, so Bears, go sign Wilson to be your backup and if Williams sucks next year, Wilson will lead the Bears to 2024 Steelers heights. Think that's a good call? Heck, Fields might be available next year.

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