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 Post subject: Re: Khalil Mack Thread
PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 12:48 am 
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Anyone that doesn’t have Unitas in their top four is a dipshit, a liar, or both.

Unitas had a streak of 47 consecutive games with a TD, in an era where most QBs threw for 10TDs in a season.

Brees broke that record in 2012 - when dipshits like Josh Freeman were slinging 27 TDs in a season.


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 Post subject: Re: Khalil Mack Thread
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I agree that if Rodgers was perfect he would have been better.
Perfect? :lol: No. Had he just been mediocre, and posted like an 80 rating, the Packers probably win easily.

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If you're conceding that Rodgers is the 2nd best QB ever, it stands to reason that the fact he's appeared in only one Super Bowl is indeed disappointing.
Thank you. Its gotta be Brady #1, and if Rodgers isn't #2, he's #3. You would have a tough time getting me to believe that there have been two QBs other than Brady who were better than Rodgers.



Nah. Rodgers is maybe 6th or 7th in the all time list.

To me it is:

1. Brady
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3. Manning
4. Brees
5. Sid Luckman

2nd tier: in any order

Otto Graham, Rodgers, Staubach, Unitas, Elway


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 Post subject: Re: Khalil Mack Thread
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He's lost. Rudderless.

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He's lost. Rudderless.

he's got that #RaiderDNA in him: once you know the playoffs ain't happening you go into cruise control in the name of self-preservation.

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Nope. Never did that in OAK.

I called it with you Bear fans:

the fear masked in arrogance is palpable.

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Furious Styles wrote:
He's lost. Rudderless.
Oops.

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2018 vs 2019: The numbers don’t lie

To understand how dominant Kahlil Mack actually is, you have to look beyond just the amount of sacks he accumulates. Let’s take an in-depth look into his dominant 2018 campaign compared to this season.

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Yeah, he is. Did you watch his play against GB?

Pressures are not impressive. Stats do lie.

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Yeah, he is. Did you watch his play against GB?

Pressures are not impressive. Stats do lie.

Yeah. Who wants to put pressure on a quarterback at an elite level?

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 Post subject: Re: Khalil Mack Thread
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Stats do lie.
Only when you want them to.

In this case, however, it shows that while Mack may not be wrecking offenses like he was last year, he is still a force to be reckoned with.

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All that money spent on the off season on defense will result in pressures but no sacks

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Stats do lie.
Only when you want them to.

In this case, however, it shows that while Mack may not be wrecking offenses like he was last year, he is still a force to be reckoned with.

I agree with this.
He's still a very good player....not quite a pro-bowler.

I think he will bounce back next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Khalil Mack Thread
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All that money spent on the off season on defense will result in pressures but no sacks


I knew the info cited weeks ago but I wouldn't bring them up because, as I stated, sacks are several times more important than a pressure. Some people look at them as an effective pass rush. I look at them as a failed sack. They have value in conjunction with sacks. However, if you are not getting home regularly on your pressures, the QB is probably just moving out of the pocket and completing a pass

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I agree with this.
He's still a very good player....not quite a pro-bowler.
I thought so too.

But after reading that he is top five in the entire league in hurries, pressures, and fumbles, along with #13 in QB hits, I've softened my stance on that. Those truthful stats mean that Mack is still playing like a very top level Dlineman.

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 Post subject: Re: Khalil Mack Thread
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I agree with this.
He's still a very good player....not quite a pro-bowler.
I thought so too.

But after reading that he is top five in the entire league in hurries, pressures, and fumbles, along with #13 in QB hits, I've softened my stance on that. Those truthful stats mean that Mack is still playing like a very top level Dlineman.

Might want to double check your work there my friend.

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Fuck you, FF. Your dimebag is just two nickel bags, right?

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Stats do lie.
Only when you want them to.
Seems to me the less meatbally Bear fans here don't agree with you.

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In this case, however, it shows that while Mack may not be wrecking offenses like he was last year, he is still a force to be reckoned with.

Banal platitude aside, he wasn't much of a force to be reckoned with on that last drive during the RAIDERS game. :lol: He was on the sidelines sucking wind.

And post the source of your stats next time.

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The Bears in general were not a force to be reckoned with most of that entire game. But if you want single out individual players on certain drives, I'm certain we can find more than a few RAIDER mistakes leading to losses or points going the other way. Congrats to your 7 win team for beating my 8 win team who was playing their backup QB in a game that was 4,000 miles away from home.

The initial source of that graphic was from a Bleacher Report article, however the stats were taken from here; https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... vanced.htm

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:lol: Mistakes? The 23 million a year guy couldn't answer the call on the last drive. It was embarrassing.

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A defensive player who is top five in the league in QB Hurries, pressures, and fumbles seems to have earned a good chunk of that money.

And the second round pick the BEARS acquired with him is getting better and better. 8)

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Sad that a fan of a supposed SB contending team is focused on next year's draft.

Also sad you can't come up with your own material.

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What's truly sad is that one of the board's lone Raider fans simply cannot stop talking about a guy who no longer plays for his team.

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For those scoring the Mack trade at home, it was Khalil Mack for

A first-round running back that is pussing out on the rest of the season
The delta between the Bears 1st pick in 2020 (probably 15-18) and the Raiders 2nd round pick (35-40) range.

Even in a "down" year for Mack, Raiders still got raped.


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That's the thing. The Bears not having a 1st this year sucks, but they can absolutely still find an impact player at 35-45. For example, Matt Forte was the Bears first pick in 2008 and he was chosen 44th overall.

Whether Pace actually can find and pick said player or not is a different discussion.

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That's the thing. The Bears not having a 1st this year sucks, but they can absolutely still find an impact player at 35-45. Whether Pace actually can find and pick him or not is a different discussion.


Pace fleeced Gruden by getting that 2nd rounder thrown in. Look at similar trades, Ramsey fetched two 1sts with LA getting nothing back. And he may walk too.


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What's truly sad is that one of the board's lone Raider fans simply cannot stop talking about a guy who no longer plays for his team.

:lol: Um Frank, you bumped the thread today by replying to my post from a month ago.

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Laremy Tunsil fetched two firsts and a second with zero control! He may walk after 2020 as well. Again, Gruden got bent over by giving that 2nd rounder back to the Bears.

I'm sure Pace will shit that pick away on a Div 2 prospect, sadly.


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Nobody brings the gay sex talk quite like Bob.

Maybe talk to your tutor about switching up the subject matter.

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Mack’s breaking down in year 2 of a 6 year deal and Bear fans are crowing about winning the trade because of a 2nd round pick they’re getting back that will turn into the next James Daniels. Love Bear fans.

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Mack’s breaking down in year 2 of a 6 year deal and Bear fans are crowing about winning the trade because of a 2nd round pick they’re getting back that will turn into the next James Daniels. Love Bear fans.


He "broke down"? What drivel. Enjoy your first round loss in the play-offs this year.

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