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There are 23 defensive backs in the hall. He will not be joining them. There will be numerous photos and videos in Randall Cobb's hall of fame exhibit so he will probably be seen in the background watching #18 score another TD for the Pack. When they build a hall of very good he can go there.

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Well half those guys are safeties and other than Woodson and troy P..Tillman is better than the rest...Barber has been around a very long time but nothing special.

Barber nothing special?! He was one of the anchors of Tampa's vaunted 1990s/2000s defenses :lol:

In 231 games:
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TDs: 8
Sacks: 28
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Tckls: 978

He's been around a very long time because his play has been great and will in the HoF. You can quibble with Antoine Winfield or Darren Sharper but Ronde Barber is easily ahead of Tillman.

As UMN said, there are only 23 DBs (Safeties & Corners) in the Hall. I already listed 8 who are above Tillman and that doesn't include borderline HoF players like Ty Law or Aeneas Williams who'd likely be above Tillman.

He'll be in the Hall of Very Good. Though, if you're interested in seeing the start of a HoF cornerback career you can tune into the Jags/Pack game and watch the burgeoning greatness of Casey Hayward.
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There are 23 defensive backs in the hall. He will not be joining them. There will be numerous photos and videos in Randall Cobb's hall of fame exhibit so he will probably be seen in the background watching #18 score another TD for the Pack. When they build a hall of very good he can go there.
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I like Tillman. HOF,I don't think so but I will always remember that play he made on Randy Moss.

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Well half those guys are safeties and other than Woodson and troy P..Tillman is better than the rest...Barber has been around a very long time but nothing special.

Barber nothing special?! He was one of the anchors of Tampa's vaunted 1990s/2000s defenses :lol:

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He's been around a very long time because his play has been great and will in the HoF. You can quibble with Antoine Winfield or Darren Sharper but Ronde Barber is easily ahead of Tillman.

As UMN said, there are only 23 DBs (Safeties & Corners) in the Hall. I already listed 8 who are above Tillman and that doesn't include borderline HoF players like Ty Law or Aeneas Williams who'd likely be above Tillman.

He'll be in the Hall of Very Good. Though, if you're interested in seeing the start of a HoF cornerback career you can tune into the Jags/Pack game and watch the burgeoning greatness of Casey Hayward.
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Ronde Barber is a no-brainer. Anyone who argues with that selection just doesnt know what they are talking about. I disagree with Winfield. He's just been a worse version of Tillman, without the special ball-punching skill. He's been an elite tackler at the position, but he's been an average cover corner his whole career, and has never played on a dominant defense. I've never thought of him as anything more than a decent cornerback.

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Tillman belongs in the hall of system specialists. He has one great skill that serves him well in this defense.

BALL PUNCH!!

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Turnovers win games, and Peanut causes about as many as anyone I have ever seen...Barber will 4 sure get in the hall..just like Craig Biggio will..but neither are worthy imo...That bucs defense was great but I credit Sapp..Brooks..Rice and Lynch and Barber in that order.

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Turnovers win games, and Peanut causes about as many as anyone I have ever seen...Barber will 4 sure get in the hall..just like Craig Biggio will..but neither are worthy imo...That bucs defense was great but I credit Sapp..Brooks..Rice and Lynch and Barber in that order.


Hold onto your butts but I agree with all of this post.

Tillman causes turnovers but I think that is the defense design helping him a lot. He is the perfect guy for Lovie.


And his nickname is fucking ghey.

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Agree ghay nickname

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We just had a moment there player. I'm glad we finally found some common ground.

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Barber with the ball strip!!!

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#Bears CB Charles Tillman named NFC Defensive Player of the Month for October. Makes Bears CB's 2-for-2 after Tim Jennings in September.

anti-Packers establishment keeping Casey Hayward down, as usual...

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Continues to make a very strong case. :)

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TWO forced fumbles today. Yeah... makin the case.

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Still don't think he's a HOF corner but he sure as hell is your NFL Defensive POTY to this point.

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Still don't think he's a HOF corner but he sure as hell is your NFL Defensive POTY to this point.

Another strip, but he'd have to kill JJ Watt to be DPOTY


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Making his case. 8) 8) 8)

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Making his case. 8) 8) 8)

Larry is going to get jealous of your love for Tillman. That is his man crush and no one elses.

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Making his case. 8) 8) 8)

Larry is going to get jealous of your love for Tillman. That is his man crush and no one elses.

Fuck Larry.

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Making his case. 8) 8) 8)

Larry is going to get jealous of your love for Tillman. That is his man crush and no one elses.

Fuck Larry.

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Still don't think he's a HOF corner but he sure as hell is your NFL Defensive POTY to this point.

Another strip, but he'd have to kill JJ Watt to be DPOTY

Disagree. What Tillman is doing is unprecedented from a corner. Causing the turnovers and shutting down whomever he is lined up against. I like Watt but I don't think the race is even close at this point.

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tillman looked like MVP of the entire NFL today

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Still don't think he's a HOF corner but he sure as hell is your NFL Defensive POTY to this point.

Another strip, but he'd have to kill JJ Watt to be DPOTY

Disagree. What Tillman is doing is unprecedented from a corner. Causing the turnovers and shutting down whomever he is lined up against. I like Watt but I don't think the race is even close at this point.


Agreed! Peanut is playing like a madman

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Still don't think he's a HOF corner but he sure as hell is your NFL Defensive POTY to this point.

Another strip, but he'd have to kill JJ Watt to be DPOTY

Disagree. What Tillman is doing is unprecedented from a corner. Causing the turnovers and shutting down whomever he is lined up against. I like Watt but I don't think the race is even close at this point.

I agreed with Darko originally and I like Tillman alot, but I agree that the race isn't close yet, and I think it's Watt's to lose.

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Tillman may not be a HOFer, but he's damn sure the best ball-puncher this world has ever known. It's just insane how much better he is at it than everyone else. You'd think he couldn't keep doing it, but the next game comes, and he just does it again, and again, and again.

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Still don't think he's a HOF corner but he sure as hell is your NFL Defensive POTY to this point.

Another strip, but he'd have to kill JJ Watt to be DPOTY

Disagree. What Tillman is doing is unprecedented from a corner. Causing the turnovers and shutting down whomever he is lined up against. I like Watt but I don't think the race is even close at this point.
JJ Watt will probably kill Jay Cutler on National TV next week, locking it up.


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Tillman may not be a HOFer, but he's damn sure the best ball-puncher this world has ever known. It's just insane how much better he is at it than everyone else. You'd think he couldn't keep doing it, but the next game comes, and he just does it again, and again, and again.


I've said it before, and took some grief for it, but I think the "ball punch" will be outlawed at some point. Just as we are seeing a stupid number of horse collar penalties (usually misguided IMHO), I think the NFL will declare ball punching a dangerous act, and they don't want to see a bunch of the inevitable copycats turning the games into a street brawl.

Tillman does have a knack for it, but I am amazed he hasn't broken someone's arm or wrist (even his own).

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I've said it before, and took some grief for it, but I think the "ball punch" will be outlawed at some point. Just as we are seeing a stupid number of horse collar penalties (usually misguided IMHO), I think the NFL will declare bull punching a dangerous act, and they don't want to see a bunch of the inevitable copycats turning the games into a street brawl.
The day they did that every player would end every run holding the ball out in front of them like a flag football game.

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MattInTheCrown wrote:
Tillman may not be a HOFer, but he's damn sure the best ball-puncher this world has ever known. It's just insane how much better he is at it than everyone else. You'd think he couldn't keep doing it, but the next game comes, and he just does it again, and again, and again.


I've said it before, and took some grief for it, but I think the "ball punch" will be outlawed at some point. Just as we are seeing a stupid number of horse collar penalties (usually misguided IMHO), I think the NFL will declare ball punching a dangerous act, and they don't want to see a bunch of the inevitable copycats turning the games into a street brawl.

Tillman does have a knack for it, but I am amazed he hasn't broken someone's arm or wrist (even his own).


And your thoughts are still as stupid today as they were then. Good job!

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