There should be no first. Just walk into Halas Hall and start screaming for all the staff to pack up and GTFO.

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There is more to defense than 4-3 or 3-4. Who in the hell is Mel Tucker other than a guy who coached lousy defenses in Jax? Bad hire & bad strategy to tell him that he must maintain the previous defensive coordinators system & terminology.

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I am aware there is more to defense than 4-3 and 3-4.

You keep saying he was told to keep the previous system and terminology. How do you know this?

The articles I read said he decided to do that. Did not sound like a forced thing at all.

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he was told to keep the system, he chose to keep the terminology. that is what the media reported. of course it could all just be a big lie and he was told to convert to a 3-4 but refused?

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You got a link or something to show this?

Everything I find when I search for it says it was Tuckers plan. Says nothing about it being told to him or forced on him.

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‘‘Mel will add his spin on it — creating new ideas and new ways of doing things,’‘ Bears coach Marc Trestman said at the Walter Payton Center during a news conference to introduce his coaching staff. ‘‘But essentially the style of play and the type of football we’re going to play defensively will not change much.’’


‘‘I’m not going to get into the details and the strategy, but our base will be a 4-3,’’ Tucker said when asked if he would apply ‘‘any 3-4 principles’’ to this defense. ‘‘We don’t have any plans to switch [to a 3-4] at this point.’’

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You know that great Eagle offense? The Bear debacle, a fairly insignificant game to them mind you, was sandwiched between a 22 point effort against the Cowboys and a garbage time aided 30 point effort against the Vikings. Both of those teams had bottom dwelling defenses and managed to put up a test for the Eagles.

Fire Mel Tucker. Don't let good money chase bad money.

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From what I read Briggs has called him out. That last play was the epitome of his failed coaching and leadership.

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Interestingly, it was Tucker's excellent work as Cleveland's secondaries coach that got him the DC gig in JAX.

So either he is a good coach or coaching is irrelevant.

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Or some guys are good managing a small specific group of people. Not everyone can be a CEO, that doesnt mean they cant be a good IT manager.

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Could be, but you would think the secondary at least have a clue.

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And what in that says this was forced upon him and not what he wanted to do?

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they said this the defense we want to run. Do you want the job?

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So like I said you have nothing that says this was forced upon him.

Everything i have read says this was his idea, what he wanted to do.

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The problems were not systems specific, they were fundamentals and a lack of basic positioning knowledge.

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I agree. And he should be held accountable for that. But a few guys here act as if Tucker was just drug along with this whole idea and I see nothing like that. It is what he wanted to do and I don't think it was a bad plan, just bad coaching and execution in carrying out the plan

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Believe whatever you want. I'm not going to argue about the night being dark.

That defense certainly can be good, I'm not arguing that. I wanted him fired after two games it was so obvious.

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I am not believing whatever I want. I am believing what I read about the hire and what was actually said by Tucker, Trestman, and former players. Rashied Davis last night on with Larry said the vets on defense really liked Tucker's idea of using the same system and terms as it was easier for one guy to learns the terminology of a system he was familiar with rather than everyone learning something new.

All you have done is given a statement with a "we" in it as if that we means Tucker was somehow forced to do something he did not want.

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Look, I live here and I listen to the Score all day. I listen to Biggs report EVERY day on M&H. They had Sean Jensen on. Dan Pompei. They all said the same thing. WHOEVER THE BEARS HIRE FOR DC WILL BE RUNNING THE SAME DEFENSE. That is what they said. I heard it. I am not making it up. Why would I make this shit up. That is what they said.

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ok buddy. I forgot the power of living there.

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Agreed

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Exactly right.

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You just got a combo of do you know who I am and where'd you play your ball all at once.

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My God, that quote from Hub made him the super-douche of sports radio. What a Caller Bob.

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If the vets like Tucker's idea of using the same defense Lovie used, what the fuck happened over one goddamn season? Did the vets forget everything or was Tucker just a shitty coach?

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I think we have to assume right now he is a bad coach. The system is fine. Had a lot of the same players. Did not seem to be as prepared or disciplined as needed which falls back on coaching. Obviously, injuries had a big impact too.

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Can we package both the ST coach and Mel Tucker and trade them for a bag of ball?

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If Melton, Tillman and Briggs were not hurt and Peppers didn't age 5 years in the off season we are not even having this convo.

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