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Lots of things to criticize them for, but picking up the phone and checking on Tomlin isn't one of them




I disagree. 1st while I respect Tomlin he’s not that far from McCarthy and he’s also not an offensive minded coach so he wouldn’t be any higher on my list than McCarthy.


2nd.. having to trade away multiple high valuable picks for a guy who’s not much different than another guy you could probably sign without giving up any picks is a dumb move. Especially for a team that can’t afford to trade away those picks.


3rd.. indecision has lead to what we’ve seen from the Bears so far. They didn’t begin the process early after firing Eberflus by bringing in candidates that weren’t working or even try to satisfy the Rooney rule so they could be ready to make serious offers to a candidate they have serious competition for. You can sit back and hope they’re doing their do diligence all you want to but after watching this group fail and make the wrong decision time and again I’m viewing it thru a different lens. My guess is that they still don’t know who they want and haven’t zeroed in on a handful of the right candidates yet. Something they could have been further along with if they’d done this correct from the start.


They called and the Steelers said "no." 1 minute of valuable time wasted.


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They called and the Steelers said "no." 1 minute of valuable time wasted.




The time spent on the inquiry isn’t my concern, the implications of the inquiry are.

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If he was available and the Bears didn't call they'd rightfully get roasted.


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Tennessee State football coach and former Tennessee Titans player Eddie George will interview for the Chicago Bears head coaching position on Sunday, a source close to George told The Tennessean late Saturday night.

In 2023, George, a former All-Pro running back, was a temporary offseason member of the Bears' staff as part of the NFL's Bill Walsh Diversity Coaching Fellowship. He spent the month of May in Chicago before returning to Nashville heading into his third season at TSU.


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In 2023, George, a former All-Pro running back, was a temporary offseason member of the Bears' staff as part of the NFL's Bill Walsh Diversity Coaching Fellowship. He spent the month of May in Chicago before returning to Nashville heading into his third season at TSU.


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So Eddie goerge finishes rooney rule and hire Johnson monday?


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So Eddie goerge finishes rooney rule and hire Johnson monday?



We’ll see. But yes if this is done in person it satisfies the rule -which the Bears should have gotten out ahead of earlier to begin with.

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If he was available and the Bears didn't call they'd rightfully get roasted.




Sure, but that’s not the scenario we’re actually talking about.

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So it seems like they’re trying to desperately get a minority candidate in town to interview in person to satisfy the Rooney rule. Apparently only in person interviews count?

If I were Eddie George - I mean first of all, Eddie George? - why the hell would I fly up to Chicago on a miserably cold day to go through a farce of an interview just so the Bears are clear to sign the guy they actually want?

There needs to be some sort of common sense carve-outs with the rule.

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So the Bears go from being OK with a video interview to spending 10s of thousands to fly him in and it supposedly doesn't last long but yet he doesn't leave until the next morning?


ESPN 1000’s Marc “Silvy” Silverman also reported before the interview that the Bears planned to “wine and dine” McCarthy afterward, suggesting their red-carpet treatment could indicate how seriously they are taking McCarthy’s candidacy. Days after the team spoke with McCarthy, though, Silverman revealed new information to the contrary.

According to Silverman, the Bears did not insist upon bringing in McCarthy for an in-person interview and would have been comfortable speaking virtually, but McCarthy “pressed the issue” to get an in-person meeting. He also added that while they planned to speak for several hours, their meeting “didn’t come close” to that length.

The new information about McCarthy’s interview does not eliminate his candidacy for the Bears’ head-coaching job, but it does throw cold water on the suggestion that he is their top candidate amid their search. It also raises the question about which candidate the Bears will make a priority


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The new information about McCarthy’s interview does not eliminate his candidacy for the Bears’ head-coaching job, but it does throw cold water on the suggestion that he is their top candidate amid their search. It also raises the question about which candidate the Bears will make a priority




I don’t completely agree with this. The Bears may actually still covet McCarthy and realize that once Ben Johnson is off the table things could move fast for other coaches. There’s another possibility that the Bears may have already planned to get a Rooney rule guy in the door but either struggled to find a guy or were just lazy about it and the timing is just ironic.


Or, maybe Ben is their guy and they are scrambling to grab him. I still give the Bears a 50/50 shot at actually landing him but my gut tells me he’s going to the Raiders or plot twist.. he returns to Detroit yet again (I doubt it but still)

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McCarthy is a terrible choice. Please eliminate him.

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McCarthy is a terrible choice. Please eliminate him.




Yeah I’m not sure how feel about McCarthy. Some days I feel like he’s at least a professional HC who consistently wins, can work well with most QB’s, and puts together competent offenses but struggles to win in the playoffs


Other days.. I feel like the Bears would be stuck in perpetual mediocrity for the next 5 years and be just as frustrating to watch as they have been the last 5 years.

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The new information about McCarthy’s interview does not eliminate his candidacy for the Bears’ head-coaching job, but it does throw cold water on the suggestion that he is their top candidate amid their search. It also raises the question about which candidate the Bears will make a priority




I don’t completely agree with this. The Bears may actually still covet McCarthy and realize that once Ben Johnson is off the table things could move fast for other coaches. There’s another possibility that the Bears may have already planned to get a Rooney rule guy in the door but either struggled to find a guy or were just lazy about it and the timing is just ironic.


Or, maybe Ben is their guy and they are scrambling to grab him. I still give the Bears a 50/50 shot at actually landing him but my gut tells me he’s going to the Raiders or plot twist.. he returns to Detroit yet again (I doubt it but still)


After last night he knows Jared Goff can directly influence his own stock price, and he'd be a fool to pin his head coaching aspirations to another season trying to coax Goff into not fucking up royally once more.


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NME wrote:

Other days.. I feel like the Bears would be stuck in perpetual mediocrity for the next 5 years and be just as frustrating to watch as they have been the last 5 years.


Mediocrity would be a massive upgrade for this dumpster fire of a franchise.

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George was interviewed by a committee that included general manager Ryan Poles, president and CEO Kevin Warren, chairman George McCaskey, senior director of player personnel Jeff King, executive vice president of people and culture & chief human resources officer Liz Geist, and director of football administration Matt Feinstein.


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Eddie George is a bit old, but will be an upgrade to the RB room as a short yardage back, and likely will not take up much cap room, great start to free agency by Poles.


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I'd love to see all the people who said Ben Johnson was a great OC because he had Goff at QB show up this morning. Let me hear ya.

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I'd love to see all the people who said Ben Johnson was a great OC because he had Goff at QB show up this morning. Let me hear ya.

Huh? There was no indication Goff would shit the bed until Goff shit the bed. And Johnson has no control of the extremely poor defense that Detroit has.


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I think Johnson is going to the Raiders. The Bears might make a play for him but I think he’s going to LV



Bears are going to move on McCarthy or.. Todd Monken. And the more I read into Monken, the more I actually like him. He also checks a lot of boxes the players/front office want. 1st he’s a solid culture type guy, 2nd he’s offensive minded, 3rd he has a good amount of experience and has been successful at a lot of stops.


He’s also done a great job progressing Lamar Jackson to the next stage of his career and has shown he can put together a competent ‘modern offense’.


If I’m choosing between McCarthy and Monken I’m getting going with Monken.

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I think Johnson is going to the Raiders. The Bears might make a play for him but I think he’s going to LV

Bears are going to move on McCarthy or.. Todd Monken. And the more I read into Monken, the more I actually like him. He also checks a lot of boxes the players/front office want. 1st he’s a solid culture type guy, 2nd he’s offensive minded, 3rd he has a good amount of experience and has been successful at a lot of stops.

He’s also done a great job progressing Lamar Jackson to the next stage of his career and has shown he can put together a competent ‘modern offense’.

If I’m choosing between McCarthy and Monken I’m getting going with Monken.

You just literally talked me into it. Also, I saw some good game management this weekend. There are several examples, but the Rams coming within 20 yds of stealing a game is at top of the list. McCarthy has a horrible reputation in this respect.


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"The exact answer I was given was 'If Ben Johnson isn't the coach of the Raiders, the reason will have nothing to do with money.' There you go," our own Hondo Carpenter reported. "The Raiders are willing to spend what they have to spend to go get their guy. If you're concerned about the Raiders going cheap ... that will be of no concern with the Raiders. I am not implying that Ben is going to get it, I am simply telling you that he is the lead guy."

Carpenter added that the deal for Johnson could be six years and $90 million.


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Nardi wrote:
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I think Johnson is going to the Raiders. The Bears might make a play for him but I think he’s going to LV

Bears are going to move on McCarthy or.. Todd Monken. And the more I read into Monken, the more I actually like him. He also checks a lot of boxes the players/front office want. 1st he’s a solid culture type guy, 2nd he’s offensive minded, 3rd he has a good amount of experience and has been successful at a lot of stops.

He’s also done a great job progressing Lamar Jackson to the next stage of his career and has shown he can put together a competent ‘modern offense’.

If I’m choosing between McCarthy and Monken I’m getting going with Monken.

You just literally talked me into it. Also, I saw some good game management this weekend. There are several examples, but the Rams coming within 20 yds of stealing a game is at top of the list. McCarthy has a horrible reputation in this respect.


He also has head coaching experience and brought a program from terrible to respectable. It does make me wonder why he hasn't had another HC offer in the last decade.

Chicago(ish) guy. Wheaton tough. would probably love being back in his home town coaching the team he loved.

Red ass type of coach, which is what this team needs right now.

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I think Johnson is going to the Raiders. The Bears might make a play for him but I think he’s going to LV

Bears are going to move on McCarthy or.. Todd Monken. And the more I read into Monken, the more I actually like him. He also checks a lot of boxes the players/front office want. 1st he’s a solid culture type guy, 2nd he’s offensive minded, 3rd he has a good amount of experience and has been successful at a lot of stops.

He’s also done a great job progressing Lamar Jackson to the next stage of his career and has shown he can put together a competent ‘modern offense’.

If I’m choosing between McCarthy and Monken I’m getting going with Monken.

You just literally talked me into it. Also, I saw some good game management this weekend. There are several examples, but the Rams coming within 20 yds of stealing a game is at top of the list. McCarthy has a horrible reputation in this respect.


see now you're conditioned to accept a lesser candidate .


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Todd Monken looks like a great candidate which is precisely why the Bears will not hire him. If Mike McCarthy goes to New Orleans it’ll be Matt Campbell (or Anthony Weaver).


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I think Johnson is going to the Raiders. The Bears might make a play for him but I think he’s going to LV

Bears are going to move on McCarthy or.. Todd Monken. And the more I read into Monken, the more I actually like him. He also checks a lot of boxes the players/front office want. 1st he’s a solid culture type guy, 2nd he’s offensive minded, 3rd he has a good amount of experience and has been successful at a lot of stops.

He’s also done a great job progressing Lamar Jackson to the next stage of his career and has shown he can put together a competent ‘modern offense’.

If I’m choosing between McCarthy and Monken I’m getting going with Monken.

You just literally talked me into it. Also, I saw some good game management this weekend. There are several examples, but the Rams coming within 20 yds of stealing a game is at top of the list. McCarthy has a horrible reputation in this respect.


see now you're conditioned to accept a lesser candidate .

Whenever I reply to NME, I fix his double spaces between paragraphs. THAT, I will not accept.


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After the Lions getting their ass beat I’m not sure about this Ben Johnson guy.

This gimmicky stuff only goes so far.

But he doesn’t come off to me as a HC. He doesn’t seem like a leader of men. He looks more like a pushover.

He looks like another vanilla offensive coordinator who isn’t a HC. Like Kliff Kingsbury when he was the Cards HC. He probably is great being a coordinator for the rest of his career.


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Todd Monken looks like a great candidate which is precisely why the Bears will not hire him. If Mike McCarthy goes to New Orleans it’ll be Matt Campbell (or Anthony Weaver).

Monken is they guy who decided not to use the best rushing attack in the league until the last third of the game yesterday correct ?

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Todd Monken looks like a great candidate which is precisely why the Bears will not hire him. If Mike McCarthy goes to New Orleans it’ll be Matt Campbell (or Anthony Weaver).

Monken is they guy who decided not to use the best rushing attack in the league until the last third of the game yesterday correct ?


Yup and the other guy decides to run trick play at a critical time in the game that resulted in a INT from his WR. Give me J.Brady and call it a day.

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Todd Monken looks like a great candidate which is precisely why the Bears will not hire him. If Mike McCarthy goes to New Orleans it’ll be Matt Campbell (or Anthony Weaver).

Monken is they guy who decided not to use the best rushing attack in the league until the last third of the game yesterday correct ?


Yup and the other guy decides to run trick play at a critical time in the game that resulted in a INT from his WR. Give me J.Brady and call it a day.

Sure, as long as he brings the fullback/QB with him.


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