Hire Roman&Rivera.

Could you imagine those 2 on the same staff? BEAR football would be back. Nasty defense and smashmouth football. Obviously you give Roman the HC spot. Rivera DC/AHC. And you just KNOW that Rivera would accept the DC offer in Chicago, because he probably won't get any serious HC offer this off-season.

A first time GM rarely gets more than 3 HC changes to get it right. So Pace is on his last legs. Sticking with Nagy will only get Pace fired BEFORE that 3rd HC change. So he should be BRASH and make it now. It would probably look desparate to ownership but Virginia ain't getting any younger so they're desparate anyway and the move would be applauded by a fanbase desparate for the first SB win since '85.

Nagy is NEVER hoisting any Lombardi Trophy. I could absolutley see Roman or Rivera doing that someday. In face you just might see Roman doing that this February as the Ravens play caller .

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I'd let Pace keep his job if he murdered you.

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Lifetime extension.

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I do not know how many times this has been mentioned or discussed, but Nagy is not getting fired anytime soon. He is under a 5 year contract and will not get fired after 2 seasons.

He has to turn over playcalling duties. If he wants to be an OC fine I won't stop him but someone has to be a head coach. Those duties have been neglected and it shows. It shows with the lack of communication that caused a few big mistakes and it shows with lack of general preparedness.

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As long as that genius Pace is bringing in the players, no coach will be successful.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Regardless of Nagy turning over playcalling duties....I still see a major problem with his overall philosophy. "I'm not an idiot, I get it" that his offensive line is bad and he has a limited option at QB. The problem is he's done ZERO to coach to the strengths of what he does have.

That 4th and 23 from the Chiefs game really highlighted their problems are way more extensive than playcalling.

How can Pace save his job? I don't think he can. He has 2 years left....one that'll make him a lame duck, so he really one has one season to prove Mitch was worth the pick. There's enough body of work to prove Mitch WASN't worth the pick, yet alone the other drafting mistakes he made.

Pace's only hope is the Bears being the Bears and they retain him simply becuase they like him. Sadly...that's very possible.

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The fact that they were even in a 4th & 23 at that juncture of the game highlighted way more problems than anything else that happened vs KC.

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Well, Pace's job isn't in jeopardy because the team is going to be either 20-12 or 19-13 in the last two seasons after the last game.

If the team had went 3-13 then maybe but going from really good team to average NFL blob team doesn't get you fired. A bad year next year and he could be gone.

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That means Nagy's job is secure. Plus he has 3 more years on a contract.

Pace's overall record is....not....good.

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I'll just never understand what impressed the Bears so much about Pace.

His $800 haircut?

How do you hire a guy who can't even handle PUBLIC SPEAKING????
I mean, Ed Orgeron down at LSU is a better orator than Pace, and Ed speaks Cajun mumbo gumbo.

It's just embarrassing how EASILY bamboozled Ted and George were for a guy who has to count to 10 just to tie his own shoes.

If I was still a bounty hunter, I would freeze Pace in Carbonite, harvest his organs for junk traders, and sell his children to gypsy's.

You were never a bounty hunter you lying sack of shit.

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Way too much drama going on here.

Aside from Fuller, Pace is the architect of a NFL-leading defense last year and one that will finish in the top 7 this year.

Pace is responsible for assembling a team that went to the playoffs for the first time in seven years.

All that stuff is good. On the bad side, Pace is responsible for an embarrassing swing and miss at the QB spot, one that deprived this franchise of precious draft capital it needs to build up the offense. It was also amateur like in that he bid against himself to acquire a guy who proved to be a bust.

That is bad.

In the end it's a mixed bag with him. I'd say we're still a second-tier team (on par with the Vikings, Packers, Texans, Titans, etc.) that can vault into the first tier with better offensive production. This is Pace's true test this off-season - how do you make the offense a more professional outfit.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Don't you want (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky gone immediately though? (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky lead us to the playoffs for the first time in seven years too.

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That's overly generous. The Bears would have gone to the playoffs with Chase Daniels as QB. NFL-leading defense.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Pace does have a mixed bag....but he's had more misses where it counts than hits.
One playoff appearance in 7 years....bad.

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Regardless of your thoughts on (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in the future, he was pretty good last year.

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Pace hasn't been here for seven years.

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Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY

Perhaps. They almost certainly would have been worse than 12-4.

Chase Daniel had extra time to prepare and couldn't beat the Giants last year. Also he needed a late pick-6 from Eddie Jackson to secure the 2018 Thankgiving win in Detroit.



And with Pace, you have to put it into context in that he took over for Phil Emery who left basically nobody worthwhile on the Bears roster. It was going to take two full seasons to get that mess even partially cleaned up.

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Pace is good at drafting, good at free agency and good at knowing when to let guys walk. Look around the league and find any front office guys who do an appreciably better job than him. There aren't many. There are quite a few who are worse (some much worse), but not many who are better.

The issue is Nagy. Which I know is a hire that Pace made, but still isn't one that should get him fired. Because what happens when the Bears bring in the next guy? Do you think they'll draft better or be better in free agency? I doubt it. I seriously doubt it.

I've come around to the idea of continuity in the front office being more important than constant evaluation and hyper-scrutiny. Once you find a guy like Pace, Ballard, Dorsey etc. it's worth letting them continue to learn and refine on the job. Firing a GM after five seasons means you're just going to start over with some new guy who lacks experience and will make all the same mistakes again. And he'll also bring in his cadre of new guys who will need time to adjust.

They wont fire Nagy until a year from now. At that point everyone in the world will be calling for Pace's head too. I would hope the Bears decide to give Pace another hire, and probably another crack at drafting a QB. See what he's learned from this. He built a Super Bowl roster but hired an inflexible, egotistical coach and supplied them with a raw quarterback. The fact that he accomplished the first part is enough to make me want to see what he can learn about not repeating the mistakes of the second and third part.

Pace would be a significantly better GM if he was barred from making trades involving draft picks unless the player is a pro bowler by management.

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It's also worth nothing that Pace has shown that he is willing to adjust and reconsider himself. The crucial traits that Nagy lacks are traits that Pace has. I just dont think rolling the iron dice of NFL front office hires is a good idea, lest we wind up with another Phil Emery.

Not really. I wouldn't say he is bad, but middle of the road at best. Yes there are Eddie Jackson and Roquan good picks, but you can't ignore the Grasu, Shaheen and Kevin White trash picks.


Brick also brings up a great point about Pace's trading of drat picks. Outside of the Mack trade, Pace's trades that involved draft picks have been horrid.

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Every team makes bad picks like that though. Even unrealistically good front offices like Seattle, New Orleans and New England have a litany of shitty picks. You're really saying that Pace should be throw out the door because he biffed a second and third round pick two and five years ago respectively? That's ludicrous.

Yes every team has bad picks, I get that.

Pace has missed way more often than not on his top two picks. And he has often traded previous draft capital to move up to take "his guy", and said player has subsequently sucked.

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How the fuuuuuuuuck can anyone in their right mind defend Ryan Pace?

Do you REALLY trust this goon to make any more QB or HC decisions????

He's pathetic. Utterly PATHETIC.

And I'm sorry....but I don't trust a GM who stays in the shadows all year when it's going BAD. He lets Nagy take all the heat. This mess is just as much Paces fault and he needs to own up to it.

It's the main reason I despise both men. Neither of them own up to their mistakes. And I guarantee at the end of year press conference they will use a bunch of double talk to dodge taking blame again.

Who do you suggest?

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I'm assuming that you're counting Mitch as a miss, yes? I certainly do.

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His first rounders have been White, Floyd, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Roquan. I would say Floyd and Roquan are definite hits (look at who was taken after Floyd, its abysmal) and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky still TBD. White was a bust, obviously. So at worst he's two-for-four in the first round. 50% is actually pretty good in the first-round when stacked against the rest of the league.

His second rounders have been Goldman, Whitehair, Shaheen, Daniels and Miller. Shaheen sucks. Say what you will about Daniels but he's a starting caliber player. Whitehair, Goldman and Miller are all great picks. He's four-for-five in the second round...which is way above league average.