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we would have been feeling the negative effects of that trade for the next decade, for 2-3 years more of great play from Wilson

I just fear that this guy will now feel that anything less than three firsts for a starting QB is a cheap price and we will end up with some bum, or he will overpay in trying to move up

Why does he always seem to pay top dollar to FA and is overly generous with his picks when trading?

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He has tunnel vision and panics. You can’t play this game as a chaser and he is always chasing. I think Dalton is a step sideways but prefer it over hamstringing whomever is the next GM for a long time. Haven’t had a pick in two years and now trade away 3 more years? Seems unwise. Let the new GM have as many picks to screw up on his own. And yes, I’m aware they will screw up the gm hire.


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He has tunnel vision and panics. You can’t play this game as a chaser and he is always chasing. I think Dalton is a step sideways but prefer it over hamstringing whomever is the next GM for a long time. Haven’t had a pick in two years and now trade away 3 more years? Seems unwise. Let the new GM have as many picks to screw up on his own. And yes, I’m aware they will screw up the gm hire.

They could hire Mel Kiper to run the draft and it would be better than what Pace does trading picks.

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I'm glad they didn't mortgage the future on Wilson as much as I like him. You give that much away including starters and you are going to have an aging and banged up former superstar. They just need to manage this season and try to pick a young QB to develop in one of the first 4 rounds. It isn't sexy and not exciting but we can't continue to rob Peter to pay Paul. Part of the reason we are in salary cap hell is because of all the picks they gave away and having to pay free agents.

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we would have been feeling the negative effects of that trade for the next decade, for 2-3 years more of great play from Wilson

I just fear that this guy will now feel that anything less than three firsts for a starting QB is a cheap price and we will end up with some bum, or he will overpay in trying to move up

Why does he always seem to pay top dollar to FA and is overly generous with his picks when trading?


Kap said the same thing this morning! I'm listening to the 7 am podcast right now LOL


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Kap proves why he's best in small doses. He was hysterical the Bears didn't land Wilson. Dan Weiderer pounded how unlikely it would be to happen. But Kap insisted if Luis Riddick says it it's gospel.


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I'm glad they didn't mortgage the future on Wilson as much as I like him. You give that much away including starters and you are going to have an aging and banged up former superstar. They just need to manage this season and try to pick a young QB to develop in one of the first 4 rounds. It isn't sexy and not exciting but we can't continue to rob Peter to pay Paul. Part of the reason we are in salary cap hell is because of all the picks they gave away and having to pay free agents.


everything I'm seeing seems to have cooled down on the Mac Jones overrating and it sure looks like he will be there at 20.

There should be a starting level RT when they pick in the second round.

That addresses the two most glaring problems on the cheap.

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I have a hard time believing the Bears offered three first rounders, additional picks, and two starters for Wilson. Then again, there's no upside in underestimating the stupidity of Ryan Pace.

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I have a hard time believing the Bears offered three first rounders, additional picks, and two starters for Wilson. Then again, there's no upside in underestimating the stupidity of Ryan Pace.


He is going to set this franchise back 10 years this April by doing something dumb. Then finally get fired. Its the Bear's way.

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George gave Pace carte blanche to trade 3 #1s + talent when his jobs on thin ice to give the Bears a great qb, mortgaged future, depleted worse team? The Dalton/Foles/rookie qb trio ensure a mediocre team. Mediocre Bears teams have made George and clan millions.


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Pace doesn't care about or understand the importance of draft picks. Perfect scenario for Pace because the owner and team President Don't either.


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Tall Midget wrote:
I have a hard time believing the Bears offered three first rounders, additional picks, and two starters for Wilson. Then again, there's no upside in underestimating the stupidity of Ryan Pace.



I don't believe that story either. But is was the talk of sports radio in KC yesterday.

And while Pace is an idiot, there is just way too much being given up for Wilson in that scenario.

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I'm glad they didn't mortgage the future on Wilson as much as I like him. You give that much away including starters and you are going to have an aging and banged up former superstar. They just need to manage this season and try to pick a young QB to develop in one of the first 4 rounds. It isn't sexy and not exciting but we can't continue to rob Peter to pay Paul. Part of the reason we are in salary cap hell is because of all the picks they gave away and having to pay free agents.


everything I'm seeing seems to have cooled down on the Mac Jones overrating and it sure looks like he will be there at 20.

There should be a starting level RT when they pick in the second round.

That addresses the two most glaring problems on the cheap.


I would be ok with this or getting the OL sewn up in the first and a QB in the 2nd. Best available. They have to stop the madness and start building from within. It is painful and a crap shoot. Say what you will about Pace but he has found some talent in the middle and late rounds, he just needs to do better early and keep those picks.

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I'd rather nobody save Pace, and let him be thrown to the wolves.

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I have a hard time believing the Bears offered three first rounders, additional picks, and two starters for Wilson. Then again, there's no upside in underestimating the stupidity of Ryan Pace.


I think it was an attempt at damage control. I doubt they made that offer.

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I'm glad they didn't mortgage the future on Wilson as much as I like him. You give that much away including starters and you are going to have an aging and banged up former superstar. They just need to manage this season and try to pick a young QB to develop in one of the first 4 rounds. It isn't sexy and not exciting but we can't continue to rob Peter to pay Paul. Part of the reason we are in salary cap hell is because of all the picks they gave away and having to pay free agents.


everything I'm seeing seems to have cooled down on the Mac Jones overrating and it sure looks like he will be there at 20.

There should be a starting level RT when they pick in the second round.

That addresses the two most glaring problems on the cheap.


I would be ok with this or getting the OL sewn up in the first and a QB in the 2nd. Best available. They have to stop the madness and start building from within. It is painful and a crap shoot. Say what you will about Pace but he has found some talent in the middle and late rounds, he just needs to do better early and keep those picks.


They have found some good free agents as well.

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Here’s my thing...the ‘value of draft picks’ argument only works if Pace gets fired after a shitty 2021 and you have a competent front office.

If he’s a long hauler as many suggest, then who fucking cares if he gets another crack at drafting three more guys like Kevin White, Leonard Floyd & Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky? Roquan seems legit, but even then, Pace is batting .250 on 1st round picks (probably worse, considering the trades he made to get Floyd/Mitch).

He can’t hurt the future of the franchise any more via trading picks than he will by drafting shitty players. If he could’ve turned 3 future busts into one of the best players in football at its marquee position, he absolutely should have done it.

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Tough to call Leonard Floyd a bust. He's been great with the Rams

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Tough to call Leonard Floyd a bust. He's been great with the Rams

He had his moments with the bears too, but it’s tough for me to label that a successful 1st round pick if you release the guy after 4 years.

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Tough to call Leonard Floyd a bust. He's been great with the Rams

He had his moments with the bears too, but it’s tough for me to label that a successful 1st round pick if you release the guy after 4 years.


Floyd is far superior to his replacement, though.

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Tough to call Leonard Floyd a bust. He's been great with the Rams

He had his moments with the bears too, but it’s tough for me to label that a successful 1st round pick if you release the guy after 4 years.


Floyd is far superior to his replacement, though.

That’s just standard issue double fuck-up by Ryan Pace. Fix a mistake with a bigger mistake.

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Remember life before Pace? The Bears were garbage. Give the guy some credit.


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Remember life before Pace? The Bears were garbage. Give the guy some credit.

Nobody in the world deserves bouquets for being better than Phil Emery.

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No doubt. It would have been a trade the Bears almost certainly lose.

Name the best trade in NFL history for the team that got one player already in the league for multiple first round draft picks.

The only answer I can come up with at this point is Jalen Ramsey, and actually Khalil Mack but with the Mack trade they basically were trading a 3rd and a 1st for a 2nd instead of just losing the pick completely.

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