It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:50 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 284 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:04 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
I think this may be good for the Bears. Cutler will not cost as much next season and if all doesn't go well the Bears will get a really good draft pick. Why not take a look at Vince Young? He did play with the Packers.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:07 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm
Posts: 40983
Location: Chicago
pizza_Place: Lou Malanati's
Nas wrote:
I think this may be good for the Bears. Cutler will not cost as much next season and if all doesn't go well the Bears will get a really good draft pick. Why not take a look at Vince Young? He did play with the Packers.


Because he is nuts and cant have a nut running the team.

_________________
"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:09 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
bigfan wrote:
Nas wrote:
I think this may be good for the Bears. Cutler will not cost as much next season and if all doesn't go well the Bears will get a really good draft pick. Why not take a look at Vince Young? He did play with the Packers.


Because he is nuts and cant have a nut running the team.


:lol: :lol: These guys won't be here next season anyway. When you're trying to salvage the season you may as well take a chance. He's definitely better than Palmer.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:04 pm
Posts: 13258
Location: God's country
pizza_Place: Gem City
Is the 6-8 weeks speculation on your part Nas or has it been reported?

_________________
“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:13 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote:
Is the 6-8 weeks speculation on your part Nas or has it been reported?


Speculation based on some of the reports. Two weeks is usually the low end for a mild groin strain.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:15 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm
Posts: 40983
Location: Chicago
pizza_Place: Lou Malanati's
Nope, sorry.

I am all for taking chances on other positions with guys that dont have it together mentally, but the fear is that he has some good games when it doesnt matter and they actually talk themselves into thinking he is the QB of the future.

They will sign cutler for $15 mill a year 5 years, $40 mill guaranteed with another $5 mill play in incentives.

Its not the PER YEAR, its Guaranteed money, that will be the sticking point. Who cares if you give him $17 Mill a year, as you can cut the player.

Basically you are paying Jay for 3 more years for sure. The biggest difference is how you spread the money for cap purposes

_________________
"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
Agree with Nas, this could be a blessing in disguise.

I thought the plan was to franchise Cutler the next few years?

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:56 pm
Posts: 37836
Location: ...
Nas wrote:
Why not take a look at Vince Young?


other great ideas: eat raw chicken, shake hands with people in overalls and red hankies, and bring a toaster into the bathtub with you.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:09 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:31 pm
Posts: 6513
pizza_Place: sit down
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Agree with Nas, this could be a blessing in disguise.

I thought the plan was to franchise Cutler the next few years?



Franchising Cutler for next season makes sense if you're keeping Marshall around for the final year of his deal.
Marshall's barely containable with Cutler here to help keep him in check. Marshall without Cutler would probably not be something
the Bears wanna try.

As many as 9 QB's estimated to be going in the first round in the 2014 draft.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:38 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Franchising Cutler would be foolish. Offer him $10M a year and if he says no then waive goodbye. After another injury he will be lucky to get that.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:39 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
W_Z wrote:
Nas wrote:
Why not take a look at Vince Young?


other great ideas: eat raw chicken, shake hands with people in overalls and red hankies, and bring a toaster into the bathtub with you.


All better options than Jordan Palmer.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:31 pm
Posts: 6513
pizza_Place: sit down
Nas wrote:
W_Z wrote:
Nas wrote:
Why not take a look at Vince Young?


other great ideas: eat raw chicken, shake hands with people in overalls and red hankies, and bring a toaster into the bathtub with you.


All better options than Jordan Palmer.


Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
Just for extra clarification, the 6-8 weeks things is a complete guess. Not a real timetable, at least yet.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:53 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Bucky Chris wrote:
Just for extra clarification, the 6-8 weeks things is a complete guess. Not a real timetable, at least yet.


Correct. Sources say it may just be a yeast infection. I thought it was a hip injury.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
If the Bears win at least two or three more games this season, which looks possible with the Vikings, Rams and Browns on the schedule, they probably would be middle of the pack for draft choice. Is there a good QB available with the 12-18th pick. If so, don't franchise him and roll the dice.

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 8:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:50 pm
Posts: 16078
pizza_Place: Malnati's
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
If the Bears win at least two or three more games this season, which looks possible with the Vikings, Rams and Browns on the schedule, they probably would be middle of the pack for draft choice. Is there a good QB available with the 12-18th pick.


I don't believe we can speak of "winnable" games after the type of performance they put on in DC. Rather the Bears are a winnable game for most other teams

_________________
Successful calls:

Kyrie Irving will never win anything as a team's alpha: check
T.rubisky is a bust: check
Ben Simmons is a liability: check
The Fields Cult is dumb: double check

2013 CSFMB ROY


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:01 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
veganfan21 wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
If the Bears win at least two or three more games this season, which looks possible with the Vikings, Rams and Browns on the schedule, they probably would be middle of the pack for draft choice. Is there a good QB available with the 12-18th pick.


I don't believe we can speak of "winnable" games after the type of performance they put on in DC. Rather the Bears are a winnable game for most other teams


If you don't have a chance to win that may be best. Top picks get paid nothing nowadays.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:04 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
veganfan21 wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
If the Bears win at least two or three more games this season, which looks possible with the Vikings, Rams and Browns on the schedule, they probably would be middle of the pack for draft choice. Is there a good QB available with the 12-18th pick.


I don't believe we can speak of "winnable" games after the type of performance they put on in DC. Rather the Bears are a winnable game for most other teams


You are probably right, but they should beat the Rams without Bradford and the Browns.

Winning those first few games looks to be a downer now. Could have gotten better draft position to help rebuild this craptastic defense.

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:31 pm
Posts: 6513
pizza_Place: sit down
I don't think the Bears would win @Cleveland in December even with Cutler.

Wins: Lions, Ravens, @Rams, @Vikes,
Losses: @Pack, Cowboys,
Close calls: @Browns, @Eagles, Packers.

9 Nov 4 7:40PMCST + AT Packers
10 Nov 10 12:00PMCST ) Lions
11 Nov 17 12:00PMCST * Ravens
12 Nov 24 12:00PMCST ) AT Rams
13 Dec 1 12:00PMCST ) AT Vikings
14 Dec 9 7:40PMCST + Cowboys
15 Dec 15 12:00PMCST ) AT Browns
16 Dec 22 12:00PMCST ) AT Eagles
17 Dec 29 12:00PMCST ) Packers


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:25 pm
Posts: 27055
i though tressman was supposed to turn around the offense

_________________
the world will always the world. your entire existence is defined by your response.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
IkeSouth wrote:
i though tressman was supposed to turn around the offense


They scored 41 points today. That's better than last year. Turned it around!

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 31, 1969 7:00 pm
Posts: 40983
Location: Chicago
pizza_Place: Lou Malanati's
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Agree with Nas, this could be a blessing in disguise.

I thought the plan was to franchise Cutler the next few years?


I dont think it was ever the plan. Guys already making $15 mill are not looking to be franchised.

Giving him that Tag would do nothing for the team except piss him off.

But this really changes everything.

_________________
"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:23 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:52 pm
Posts: 12816
Location: My Pants
pizza_Place: Geo's Pizza
bigfan wrote:
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Agree with Nas, this could be a blessing in disguise.

I thought the plan was to franchise Cutler the next few years?


I dont think it was ever the plan. Guys already making $15 mill are not looking to be franchised.

Giving him that Tag would do nothing for the team except piss him off.

But this really changes everything.


Ok, don't know but just remembered hearing it several times on M&H. It will piss him off, but he hasn't proved he is worth a top 10 QB contract.

_________________
The Original Spanky wrote:
I don't like white rappers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:26 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:29 pm
Posts: 38695
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Yeah you'd hate to piss off a guy by throwing 15 million at him for a year. whats he going to do, play better ?

_________________
Proud member of the white guy grievance committee

It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:28 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Franchise him for one year for the reasons Hussra stated.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:29 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:57 pm
Posts: 92083
Location: To the left of my post
Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:
Ok, don't know but just remembered hearing it several times on M&H. It will piss him off, but he hasn't proved he is worth a top 10 QB contract.
It better not make him mad. If Drew Brees can get the tag so can Jay Cutler.

The thing about Cutler is he is in no position to pout. He's pretty close to being Carson Palmer or even worse having to go some place as a backup.

At this point, it's hard to come up with a team besides Philadelphia that would be interested in making him the starter and I'm not sure he is a good fit there. Minnesota was an option before but you'd have to imagine that Josh Freeman and a rookie is how they will move forward.

The market for Cutler is drying up fast, and if McCown proves effective it pretty much ends the "Cutler was just starting to come into his own" theory.

_________________
You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Yeah, Cutler is in no position to scoff at the franchise tag. He'll be lucky to get it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:11 am 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Why do you all seriously believe the Bears should use the Franchise Tag on Cutler? He may not be a $20M QB for 2 years and you want he to get that type of money for 1. With all of these injuries and mediocre play I think an incentive laden contract is the best he should get. Start it around $8M. Let him walk if it doesn't work.

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:30 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:29 am
Posts: 8116
Location: South Elgin
pizza_Place: Ian's Pizza
4 weeks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Cutler out 6-8 weeks
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:32 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 pm
Posts: 81466
pizza_Place: 773-684-2222
Bucky Chris wrote:
4 weeks


Not 4-6?

_________________
Be well

GO BEARS!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 284 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 10  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 36 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group