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In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.

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Kirkwood will convince me whoever the Bears draft sucks.

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Kirkwood will convince me whoever the Bears draft sucks.

We'll have to wait til he has whatever surgery he needs to see if he's any good


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In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.


I presume your projection system for the first round takes into account guys widely predicted to be late third or early fourth round talent. Otherwise it isn't optimized for the Emery method.

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As eager as I am to see who Emery overdrafts in the 1st round I'm more excited as to how badly he punts his 2nd - 4th round picks. The Bostic era has gone swimmingly.


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“I don’t know what they’re complaining about,” he said. “This is the juice in the personnel cycle. This is where the fun is.”

Emery added that because the unrestricted free agent market went long for them this year, the extra space before the draft “has been very beneficial.”

“It’s allowed us to have less rushed conversations and to look at things from all different angles and to think future and now and to have those conversations and to come back and revisit and to try to look at fitting this piece of the puzzle from all different angles,” Emery said.

I find it fascinating Emery believes the two extra weeks of prep are beneficial. To think he has an innate ability to avoid analysis paralysis is curious. It's not like his previous two drafts didn't suffer from it.


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“It’s allowed us to have less rushed conversations and to look at things from all different angles and to think future and now and to have those conversations and to come back and revisit and to try to look at fitting this piece of the puzzle from all different angles,” Emery said.

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Of course you will. So will everyone else. By the time we get to training camp, the brain trust around here will have convinced themselves that whoever the Bears drafted is, coincidentally, the one piece they need to make a serious run.

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good dolphin wrote:
In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.


I don't know, his first picks the last couple years have been surprises. Bears can always mess stuff up.


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Of course you will. So will everyone else. By the time we get to training camp, the brain trust around here will have convinced themselves that whoever the Bears drafted is, coincidentally, the one piece they need to make a serious run.


You say that as if I have somehow been traditionally supportive of recent Day 1 picks.

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good dolphin wrote:
In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.


I don't know, his first picks the last couple years have been surprises. Bears can always mess stuff up.


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Does Emery know what he's doing? He's missed the playoffs for two straight years and in his pivotal 3rd season he's 100% invested in a quarterback who hasn't played 16 games since 2009. I treasure him hiding behind a study he commissioned concuding developmental QBs after the 3rd round are wasted picks. In the deepest QB draft in years and a successful QB developer on staff he's going to stick with his musical chairs approach leaving him a 29 year old former 6th rounder Jordan Palmer. Trestman coached McCown into a solid starter who outperformed their "franchise" 120+ million quarterback. But rather than having a 4th-6th round cost controlled rookie who Trestman can mold into a solid back-up Emery would rather draft Khaseem Greene to sit on the bench and provide nothing of value.


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Like just about all GMs he has done some good things and some bad things.

It wasn't too long ago that Thompson was being heralded by you guys as the greatest GM around.

How quickly that changed.

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Spaulding wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.


I don't know, his first picks the last couple years have been surprises. Bears can always mess stuff up.


Drafting a Pro Bowl player in the first round last year really sucked.

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Does Emery know what he's doing? He's missed the playoffs for two straight years and in his pivotal 3rd season he's 100% invested in a quarterback who hasn't played 16 games since 2009. I treasure him hiding behind a study he commissioned concuding developmental QBs after the 3rd round are wasted picks. In the deepest QB draft in years and a successful QB developer on staff he's going to stick with his musical chairs approach leaving him a 29 year old former 6th rounder Jordan Palmer. Trestman coached McCown into a solid starter who outperformed their "franchise" 120+ million quarterback. But rather than having a 4th-6th round cost controlled rookie who Trestman can mold into a solid back-up Emery would rather draft Khaseem Greene to sit on the bench and provide nothing of value.


I'm kind of surprised his theory on QB drafting hasn't received a little more mocking. They may hit at a little higher rate, but very few of the ENTIRE POPULATION of players drafted 4th and later become starters and are most likely to be out of the league in 3 years.

Anyway dick, it's your job to find that guy who others are overlooking.

This is the faux "analytics" posing as hard science that seems to be popping up all over the NFL these days. PFF is largely useless, as I have detailed here in the past. Football is light years behind baseball in its metrics but managers seem to be grasping at anything offered rather than first challenging the relevance of what is produced.

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Dolphin is right on. Even Emery cant blow his first round pick this year. Not saying that the player will be great, injuries can always happen but there is no way we see the first pick this year and wonder WTF he was thinking.

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The Bostic era has gone swimmingly.
You mean the rookie who wasn't even supposed to play last year but had to start due to injuries? Surely an NFL defense rookie has never struggled before. :roll:

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In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.



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In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.



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Welcome back, old friend. I think we will be much less adversarial this year.

The old posters are returning recently with Rick, Martin, Eaglo and Dewskie back in the fold like refugees returning to their homeland after the unfortunate board civil war.

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Glad to see dewskie back around. Look forward to his thoughts on the bears draft.

Now we just need IB back

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Glad to see dewskie back around. Look forward to his thoughts on the bears draft.

Now we just need IB back


Why? So he can tell us how great a GM Jerry Angelo was and how bad a W B.. Marsh is? No thanks.

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“It’s allowed us to have less rushed conversations and to look at things from all different angles and to think future and now and to have those conversations and to come back and revisit and to try to look at fitting this piece of the puzzle from all different angles”

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holy shit that quote is all kinds of special..... though i don't know if it's legit-special or "strap on your helmet cuz we're about to board the short bus of life" special. it very well might end up replacing you as my signature quote of the moment.

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Why? So he can tell us how great a GM Jerry Angelo was
Angelo had success here. Its a fact that you choose to ignore because you dislike him. Lovie had success here, and you choose to ignore that fact because he is a "peter principle" guy. They fell short of the ultimate goal and it was the right time for all parties involved to move on, but the fact is that they were successful here so take your head out of the sand once in a while.

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“It’s allowed us to have less rushed conversations and to look at things from all different angles and to think future and now and to have those conversations and to come back and revisit and to try to look at fitting this piece of the puzzle from all different angles”

:shock:


holy shit that quote is all kinds of special..... though i don't know if it's legit-special or "strap on your helmet cuz we're about to board the short bus of life" special. it very well might end up replacing you as my signature quote of the moment.


You really have to wonder about a person who talks like that. I'm not saying that every general manager in the NFL needs to talk like Barack Shakespeare, but when you twist yourself in knots to appear intelligent in spite of yourself for some tossoff pre-draft interview, where else do you do it? Probably everywhere, right? Something to keep in mind when he inevitably drafts someone too high to show how smart he is. I mean, we're talking about a guy who wears corrective eyewear here! He has to!

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Now we just need IB back


Why? So he can tell us how great a GM Jerry Angelo was and how bad a W B.. Marsh is? No thanks.

No because he's one of, if not thee, smartest football poster on the board.

And I cant believe your still commenting on him after the Terry's Guy fiasco.


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A stud WR/kick returner would be nice.

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A stud WR/kick returner would be nice.

Agreed. Would love to see them go Odell Beckham Jr in the 1st if he's still there.

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Agreed. Would love to see them go Odell Beckham Jr in the 1st if he's still there.


I just feel defense is more of a crapshoot at the 14th pick. The Bears clockwork offense needs some depth,especially at WR.

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In an incredible twist, I am pretty sure I will like whoever they draft this year. Every scenario I have considered ends with a guy I really like...Donald, Dix, Denard, Gilbert, Fuller, even guys like Jernigan, Nix and Mosley. I don't dislike any of these moves. There are some excellent moves even if they trade down.

This is going to be a tough draft to mess up for any of the NFL teams. I think the entire division will probably get better, it will only be a matter of degree.

I wish Dewskie were still here to see this day.



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Welcome back, old friend. I think we will be much less adversarial this year.

The old posters are returning recently with Rick, Martin, Eaglo and Dewskie back in the fold like refugees returning to their homeland after the unfortunate board civil war.


Weird. Something about the Bears draft, I guess.

I didn't realize there was some great purge. Needed a break from circle jerks, plus I was probably posting a lot of dumbass stuff myself.

As far as the draft goes, trying to plot out this first round is one of the most difficult ones I can remember. I really want the Bears to get Dennard, Fuller, or Donald, but there's an equal chance that all 3 of those guys will be there as will they won't (that sounds incorrect, but you know what I mean). Considering how free agency went it's gonna be hard to be upset with whoever the Bears go. That being said, Emery's metrics may give everyone a headache when he takes a guy speculated to be end of the 1st/early 2nd round. I'll do my best to keep an open mind.

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Gilbert is the best player who I see most often considered to be there when the Bears pick. I have no idea how a guy with his measurables and production isn't being considered at the very top of the draft. Of course, the lack of noise about him probably means he is being considered at the top by the guys doing the actual picking.

Safety is the #1 need but I think Gilbert is going to be one of those cover CB for the ages...of course, everyone will bitch that he doesn't tackle, just like they did with Deion.

The other guy who I see there in a lot of drafts is Barr. Has the world gone insane. He is not that far from Clowney in the speed measurables. He needs a little more time learning the position and gaining strength. I could easily see him being the best player in this draft in two years.

I really think this is going to be a draft we look back on as being legendary in its talent offered.

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