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Early reports out of training camp indicate that Christian Jones, the undrafted rookie free agent out of FSU, has been very impressive.

During his senior season, he was graded as a likely second-round pick, but he wasn't taken in the draft due to a bad urine test at the Combine.

At 6'3" and 240 lbs, the guy has great size for his position; he's also apparently a fluid athlete with nice quickness and speed.

One of the Bears beat reporters speculated yesterday that Jones will make the roster, and that the team may be forced to cut Khaseem Greene to accommodate Jones.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Jones plays in the first exhibition game.

Side note: Let's also keep our eyes on Cornelius Washington. He's a second-year player with elite physical ability, but he may struggle to make the roster given that the defensive line is now pretty crowded with high-priced free agents and early draft picks.

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I like Jones, liked him in College, but shouldn't this be the plan for every guy they draft. Every team drafts guys and if they cant start right away, thats fine, they get on the ST Unit and show the athletic ability, then during practice they slowly get more reps, learn a system and you want them to be starters.

I think the plan for almost every player is this, but that plan under the Lovie Angelo era rarely worked.

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I like Jones, liked him in College, but shouldn't this be the plan for every guy they draft. Every team drafts guys and if they cant start right away, thats fine, they get on the ST Unit and show the athletic ability, then during practice they slowly get more reps, learn a system and you want them to be starters.

I think the plan for almost every player is this, but that plan under the Lovie Angelo era rarely worked.


I don't follow you. Jones was undrafted this year and apparently stands a good chance of beating out a mid-round draft pick from last year for a roster spot.

That's not good planning or drafting on Emery's part, even if Jones proves himself to be a nice find.

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being drafted doesnt mean the guy wasnt a target for them. They have LB's they believe in. So they didnt draft one, but as soon as the draft was over they signed the guy.

The point is any single player they bring in has a projected ceiling for starter ability.

Jones had a drug testing issue and thus fell off the charts.

Signing a guy right away after the draft is as good as drafting him. You run to sign guys you had on your draft boards that didnt get drafted. You sign them because you think they can start or play in your systems. Its the plan for every player you bring in. To start

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being drafted doesnt mean the guy wasnt a target for them. They have LB's they believe in. So they didnt draft one, but as soon as the draft was over they signed the guy.

The point is any single player they bring in has a projected ceiling for starter ability.

Jones had a drug testing issue and thus fell off the charts.

Signing a guy right away after the draft is as good as drafting him. You run to sign guys you had on your draft boards that didnt get drafted. You sign them because you think they can start or play in your systems. Its the plan for every player you bring in. To start


Anybody can have "a plan." The question is whether or not the plan works out. So far Emery's record isn't so hot.

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#99 is weighting him down right now.

Last years draft brought him above water.

Alshon, Long, Mills, ...Bostick will go a long way to bringing him well above water or back to treading.

Fuller seems to be a longtime mainstay.

The potential complete inability of 99 to play football will be a sticking point if the guy doesnt make any contribution.

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Fuller seems to be a longtime mainstay.

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Fuller seems to be a longtime mainstay.

:lol:


Hard to project a guy whose entire family has played DB in the NFL and he seems to be right in that line. Maybe even better than the others. Sometimes guys come into the NFL and they just arent ready for the speed, size, etc (See #99 for example).

Seeing Fuller practice, his size and speed, then hearing interviews with him, this kid has been NFL ready for 2 years. That includes being able to handle the lifestyle, getting ready for the season, doing offseason work and knowing the players.

I am content in saying this kid will be a 10 year NFl vet starting

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bigfan wrote:
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Fuller seems to be a longtime mainstay.

:lol:


Hard to project a guy whose entire family has played DB in the NFL and he seems to be right in that line. Maybe even better than the others. Sometimes guys come into the NFL and they just arent ready for the speed, size, etc (See #99 for example).

Seeing Fuller practice, his size and speed, then hearing interviews with him, this kid has been NFL ready for 2 years. That includes being able to handle the lifestyle, getting ready for the season, doing offseason work and knowing the players.

I am content in saying this kid will be a 10 year NFl vet starting


I agree about Fuller. He seems like a really good pick.

The reports on Bostic's performance in training camp continue to be bad. Obviously, wasting a 3rd round pick on Harden was also a disaster. And again, Khaseem Greene may be cut this summer, so Emery's draft record is ambiguous at best.

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I like Fuller too. Agree it was a good pick. But it IS funny when someone calls a guy a long term starter/core player and he hasn't even played a game yet.

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So begins the decade long Central Division battle of perennial All-Pros Christian Jones and Colt Lyerla.


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Reports say Lyerla has been awful and been outplayed by a UDFA TE from U of Maine. The best UDFA supposedly has been a LB from 'Bama Adrian Hubbard.


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I liked the pick, I think he's better than Bostic and Greene...I am kinda surprised by Greene, I liked him outta college n thought he could get playing time quick .

Say what ya will about Emery....he has hit a homerun on 2 very important positions already...n landed Marshall cheap....Angelo would have given up 2 FIrsts and a 2nd for him. He plugged a lot of holes this year...I could be wrong but I think Wilson is going to be outstanding for us.

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Reports say Lyerla has been awful and been outplayed by a UDFA TE from U of Maine. The best UDFA supposedly has been a LB from 'Bama Adrian Hubbard.


I was kind of reviewing Lyerla during the draft and for all his ability, he really didn't have much production in the games he did play at Oregon.

Also, sure Christian Jones smoked a doob. However, he was also reportedly unable to handle the mental rigors of MLB even in college. It is pretty telling when you are remarkable in your lack of grey matter in the group of FSU players.

I think he will always look great in the purely physical drills and games situations that involve nothing but seek and destroy.

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Reports say Lyerla has been awful and been outplayed by a UDFA TE from U of Maine. The best UDFA supposedly has been a LB from 'Bama Adrian Hubbard.


I was kind of reviewing Lyerla during the draft and for all his ability, he really didn't have much production in the games he did play at Oregon.

Also, sure Christian Jones smoked a doob. However, he was also reportedly unable to handle the mental rigors of MLB even in college. It is pretty telling when you are remarkable in your lack of grey matter in the group of FSU players.

I think he will always look great in the purely physical drills and games situations that involve nothing but seek and destroy.


The Bears aren't playing him at MLB; they have him on the strong side behind Shea.

I agree that he seems to be slow. That's what Trestman's repeated comments about Jones getting adjusted to the "mental" part of the game are undoubtedly meant to suggest. But the Bears seem to have positioned him so his mental deficiencies will be minimized.

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Reports say Lyerla has been awful and been outplayed by a UDFA TE from U of Maine. The best UDFA supposedly has been a LB from 'Bama Adrian Hubbard.


I was kind of reviewing Lyerla during the draft and for all his ability, he really didn't have much production in the games he did play at Oregon.

Also, sure Christian Jones smoked a doob. However, he was also reportedly unable to handle the mental rigors of MLB even in college. It is pretty telling when you are remarkable in your lack of grey matter in the group of FSU players.

I think he will always look great in the purely physical drills and games situations that involve nothing but seek and destroy.


The Bears aren't playing him at MLB; they have him on the strong side behind Shea.

I agree that he seems to be slow. That's what Trestman's repeated comments about Jones getting adjusted to the "mental" part of the game are undoubtedly meant to suggest. But the Bears seem to have positioned him so his mental deficiencies will be minimized.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
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Reports say Lyerla has been awful and been outplayed by a UDFA TE from U of Maine. The best UDFA supposedly has been a LB from 'Bama Adrian Hubbard.


I was kind of reviewing Lyerla during the draft and for all his ability, he really didn't have much production in the games he did play at Oregon.

Also, sure Christian Jones smoked a doob. However, he was also reportedly unable to handle the mental rigors of MLB even in college. It is pretty telling when you are remarkable in your lack of grey matter in the group of FSU players.

I think he will always look great in the purely physical drills and games situations that involve nothing but seek and destroy.


The Bears aren't playing him at MLB; they have him on the strong side behind Shea.

I agree that he seems to be slow. That's what Trestman's repeated comments about Jones getting adjusted to the "mental" part of the game are undoubtedly meant to suggest. But the Bears seem to have positioned him so his mental deficiencies will be minimized.


Strong-side linebacker is less mentally demanding than middle linebacker. I imagine that Jones will outperform Shea at this position during the preseason.

On the bench?

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