bigfan wrote:
I think I will go make a few more Vegas posts!
Frank Coztansa wrote:
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Jack Sikma |
Yeah, My Guy! Must have played Ultimate Texas Hold Em with him for 16-20 hours during Friday night and Saturday at the Hard Rock He is an asst coach for the T Wolves, but also his kid is in the NBA Summer league (Lucas, Portland U), Sikma actually grew up in Kankakee, basically a Chicago kid. Illinois Wesleyan, grew up on a farm, but always went to Chicago Could launch a million threads from the stories he told me, but then Frank would be unhappy that I had too many cool things happen in Vegas... but at the same time I am sure Sikma is telling his people about his guy from Chicago who hit a Royal Flush on the Ultimate Hold Em game that paid more than some people make in year! Thats right bitches! Just the main bet alone pays 500-1! Yes 500-1! So even if I had the minimum bet on that one of $10, thats $5000 on that circle alone. Then we have the Trips bonus and a few other pays! Yes, filled out the W-9! Took them close to 20 minutes to pay me out! Lets just say I was ON FIRE this Trip. Oh, did someone have Ernie at 30-1 on Friday Night? for $100? I think I will go make a few more Vegas posts! |
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| Author: | spmack [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
bigfan wrote: I think I will go make a few more Vegas posts! Frank Coztansa wrote: |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Eh, too tired. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
They aren't famous if you have to explain who they are. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
BF can you loan me $30,000? |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Great player. Borderline HOF'er. Sikma I mean. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Hatchetman wrote: Great player. Borderline HOF'er. Sikma I mean. Slow, tiny. and white. Couldn't even get up and down the court with today's greats. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Great player. Borderline HOF'er. Sikma I mean. Slow, tiny. and white. Couldn't even get up and down the court with today's greats. Nonsense. He could've had Raef Lafrentz's career if he came in the league this year instead of the late 70's. |
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| Author: | Ed_from_Lisle [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Hatchetman wrote: Great player. Borderline HOF'er. Sikma I mean. Hall of fame perm. That's about it. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
FavreFan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Great player. Borderline HOF'er. Sikma I mean. Slow, tiny. and white. Couldn't even get up and down the court with today's greats. Nonsense. He could've had Raef Lafrentz's career if he came in the league this year instead of the late 70's. If he came into the league this year in his prime, he's a top four center in the league. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Nice work biggie. That black backpack is gonna be bursting at the seams next monday.......LIGHT EM UP!!!!!!! I was wondering how many people took Els. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: FavreFan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Hatchetman wrote: Great player. Borderline HOF'er. Sikma I mean. Slow, tiny. and white. Couldn't even get up and down the court with today's greats. Nonsense. He could've had Raef Lafrentz's career if he came in the league this year instead of the late 70's. If he came into the league this year in his prime, he's a top four center in the league. No. That's just silly. He could play today. Maybe even be above average in his prime. But he's not better than Al Horford today. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Slow, tiny. and white. You leave me out of this. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Big Chicagoan no longer valid for any NBA conversation not knowing who Sikma is. Surprised Joe Orr of all people using "TINY" to sell me Sikma? the guy is 6-11? This guy is right in his wheelhouse |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
but he is in the Slow white Hall of fame http://www.thearch-info.com/sports/basketball/white_hof.html |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
bigfan wrote: Big Chicagoan no longer valid for any NBA conversation not knowing who Sikma is. Surprised Joe Orr of all people using "TINY" to sell me Sikma? the guy is 6-11? This guy is right in his wheelhouse I was being sarcastic. He was twice the player Al Horford is. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Congrats Biggie, sounds like a nice haul!! |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: bigfan wrote: Big Chicagoan no longer valid for any NBA conversation not knowing who Sikma is. Surprised Joe Orr of all people using "TINY" to sell me Sikma? the guy is 6-11? This guy is right in his wheelhouse I was being sarcastic. He was twice the player Al Horford is. Despite all evidence to the contrary... Unquestionably better than Sikma Howard Bynum Cousins Hibbert Chandler Probably better than Sikma, but let's hear your case Horford Noah Nene McGee Bogut Just off the top of my head quick. I'm sure I forgot one or two. I should have listed Asik just to counter the absurd "Jack Sikma was twice as good as Al Horford" statement. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
FavreFan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: bigfan wrote: Big Chicagoan no longer valid for any NBA conversation not knowing who Sikma is. Surprised Joe Orr of all people using "TINY" to sell me Sikma? the guy is 6-11? This guy is right in his wheelhouse I was being sarcastic. He was twice the player Al Horford is. Despite all evidence to the contrary... Unquestionably better than Sikma Howard Bynum Cousins Hibbert Chandler Probably better than Sikma, but let's hear your case Horford Noah Nene McGee Bogut Just off the top of my head quick. I'm sure I forgot one or two. I should have listed Asik just to counter the absurd "Jack Sikma was twice as good as Al Horford" statement. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
I'll start with asking how anyone could possibly think a guy who averages half as many points per game and a couple less rebounds per game was "unquestionably better" than Sikma. It's ridiculous. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I'll start with asking how anyone could possibly think a guy who averages half as many points per game and a couple less rebounds per game was better than Sikma. It's ridiculous. Pace of play. We've been over this. But we aren't using Horford's career stats, we aren't using anyone's. We are taking the guys as they are right now vs Sikma in his prime. There's nothing that suggests that Sikma would maintain those numbers if the total possessions went from 230-240 down to 170-180 possessions a game. That's not even going into the significant speed/strength advantage every guy I listed has over Sikma. It's funny that you think Magic was better than Jordan because he shot 3% better. Meanwhile Horford shoots 10% better than Sikma while going up against better defenses. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
FavreFan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I'll start with asking how anyone could possibly think a guy who averages half as many points per game and a couple less rebounds per game was better than Sikma. It's ridiculous. Pace of play. We've been over this. But we aren't using Horford's career stats, we aren't using anyone's. We are taking the guys as they are right now vs Sikma in his prime. There's nothing that suggests that Sikma would maintain those numbers if the total possessions went from 230-240 down to 170-180 possessions a game. That's not even going into the significant speed/strength advantage every guy I listed has over Sikma. It's funny that you think Magic was better than Jordan because he shot 3% better. Meanwhile Horford shoots 10% better than Sikma while going up against better defenses. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
I'm not. That's your thing. Go to the college forum or something Rick. Me and JORR are discussing something important here. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
FavreFan wrote: I'm not. That's your thing. Go to the college forum or something Rick. Me and JORR are discussing something important here. Quote: Unquestionably better than Sikma
Howard Bynum Cousins Hibbert Chandler |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
FavreFan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I'll start with asking how anyone could possibly think a guy who averages half as many points per game and a couple less rebounds per game was better than Sikma. It's ridiculous. Pace of play. We've been over this. But we aren't using Horford's career stats, we aren't using anyone's. We are taking the guys as they are right now vs Sikma in his prime. There's nothing that suggests that Sikma would maintain those numbers if the total possessions went from 230-240 down to 170-180 possessions a game. That's not even going into the significant speed/strength advantage every guy I listed has over Sikma. It's funny that you think Magic was better than Jordan because he shot 3% better. Meanwhile Horford shoots 10% better than Sikma while going up against better defenses. I was talking about Tyson Chandler. Not Al Horford. Sikma was far better than you think he was. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
FavreFan wrote: That's not even going into the significant speed/strength advantage every guy I listed has over Sikma. There it is. The "slow, tiny, white" canard. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: FavreFan wrote: Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: I'll start with asking how anyone could possibly think a guy who averages half as many points per game and a couple less rebounds per game was better than Sikma. It's ridiculous. Pace of play. We've been over this. But we aren't using Horford's career stats, we aren't using anyone's. We are taking the guys as they are right now vs Sikma in his prime. There's nothing that suggests that Sikma would maintain those numbers if the total possessions went from 230-240 down to 170-180 possessions a game. That's not even going into the significant speed/strength advantage every guy I listed has over Sikma. It's funny that you think Magic was better than Jordan because he shot 3% better. Meanwhile Horford shoots 10% better than Sikma while going up against better defenses. I was talking about Tyson Chandler. Not Al Horford. Sikma was far better than you think he was. He probably was. But some of these current guys are apparently much better than you think. Tyson Chandler is a much better player right now than his career stats suggest, but I think you know that. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
I hate when that canard is played. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: FavreFan wrote: That's not even going into the significant speed/strength advantage every guy I listed has over Sikma. There it is. The "slow, tiny, white" canard. I never said white, or tiny. He was tall. He was not particularly strong. Are you saying he was faster and stronger than anyone I mentioned? He was a better shooter than pretty much all of them. |
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| Author: | Rod [ Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jack Sikma |
The pace of play argument is silly. Sikma scored twice as much as Tyson Chandler and you're chalking the difference up to "pace of play". Do you also believe that David West was a better scorer than Jordan? Pace of play. |
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