http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/07/politics/rahm-emanuel-doj-sanctuary-city-cnntv/index.html

Washington (CNN)The City of Chicago escalated its months-long battle with the Trump administration over immigration enforcement Monday, asking a federal court to block Attorney General Jeff Sessions from imposing several new conditions over certain federal grant money.
The suit revolves around specific conditions Sessions announced in July for a federal program, the Edward Byrne Memorial Justice Assistance Grant, or Bryne JAG, which provides federal funding to support local law enforcement efforts.

Nice way to waste even more money the City does not have protecting non-citizens.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Im not real bright but is this the situation? Chicago is violating federal law by being a sanctuary city. The federal government ( Trump) has in turn said we will cut off the money faucet to you guys because of it , now Rahm is suing them to prevent them from doing that while still violating federal law?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Basically yes

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Wonderful.

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Elections have consequences.

R. Ham.

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I'm personally a fan of Federalism and the 10th Amendment. It's nice to see liberals awaken to the concept. Too bad it took them this long to realize government power should be decentralized

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

Rahm is a dickless/feckless mayor. Sits by and watches 1/2 his city turn into Iraq.

A pig that pees on underage girls.

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Poor Hawg

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I hope he loses another part of his finger.

Isn't creating a uniform law of naturalization a power expressly granted to the federal government by the constitution? And don't they then have the implied power to enforce said uniform law and exact its uniformity?

I like a system of dual federalism as well, but this is not an issue really up for debate. The feds set the immigration tune that the states all dance to.

I don't get, either.

I don't understand how you can sue for suffering the consequences of breaking the law. I guess it's like guy who breaks into a store, hurts himself in the process of ripping the place off, then sues the owner of the store.

in terms of naturalization and citizenship, yes.

In terms of using your own local law enforcements and resources for rounding up and arresting those in violation of those laws, no

Cities cannot grant citizenship, but they also cannot be compelled to check visa status. The City of Chicago will likely win this case.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

And the person suing, in those cases, wins most of the time.

1. I think the necessary and proper clause gives the government the power to compel compliance with the uniformity of the law. Not enforcing the law is a de facto break in the uniformity.

2. And the University of Minnesota suing on behalf of foreign nationals not even in the country yet got a preliminary injunction against the President of the United States in an arena of settled law. Sure, they'll probably "win", but it won't be right or lawful.

Is the city still not deporting people even after being arrested for something else and not just seeking out immigration status at random?

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Add that to the warehouse full of things that don't make any sense to me. I can read the ruling and the reason why the person won in a case like that, but it's still ridiculous.

Can they ignore any federal law?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The Tenth Amendment says in many cases that they can.

Really they aren't ignoring the law, but rather they are not using their city resources to enforce the law. If they forbid ICE from working in the city, then yes they are violating Federal law, but choosing not to perform ICE's duties for them is perfectly legal.

The Tenth Amendment is a great part of our Constitution and it is an amendment that is all too seldom recognized. In the era of Trump, many are starting to remember that it exists.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I'll drink to that.

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
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Can states ignore the Civil Right Act? Or by decree, not enforce it when its protections are invoked?

They can't ignore it because the 14th Amendment. If the CRA were ever challenged in court, it would be ruled Constitutional under that Amendment

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

but they are refusing to work with ICe by not turning over people on the deportation list

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

What about Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution makes laws deriving their authority from its provisions able to be ignored by the states?

This is quite the ideological conundrum for MANY.

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Yup. Ogie talking good about Chicago!

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Congress sets the rules for naturalization, but what Chicago is doing is not naturalization of immigrants.

If Chicago was granting some sort of citizenship, yes they are in violation of the clause. Refusing to arrest people at the behest of the government is not in violation though.

If ICE wants to round up immigrants in Chicago, they are free to do so on their own volition.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

They don't have to do so. ICE can make the arrests themselves if they wish.

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“When I walked in this morning, and saw the flag was at half mast, I thought 'alright another bureaucrat ate it.'" - Ron Swanson

I believe the case law is already settled when Arizona got its butt kicked that immigration is the purvue of the Feds. But I am with Ogie in that they can't cram that down the locals' throat. The Feds way of "forcing" states and cities to do what they want is with funding dollars.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Luckily, out in the stix, that 55mph speed limit really didn't mean a whole lot!

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George