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The USA stands for nothing anymore. If you expect us to intervene because of this you're crazy.

Its up to the Indians, Japanese and Australians. The time has come for the rest of the world to move on from the dying empire and leave the shithole to rot.


Bullshit. This country is leading the world. The Dems are a dying result of European failures in Socialism/Communism. When Trump wins, he will kick out the vestiges of corruption that existed under decades of both Dem and Rep administrations. Who BTW is "us" as in "us to intervene"?

I give you a pass because you're a boomer (or even pre-boomer) so you have this totally wrong view of the USA's standing in the world. Really, its not your fault.

But this country is a joke. It really is. Our presidential is a barely functioning retard and then his opposition is a race-obsessed party that not-so-subtly wants a sort of twisted corporate-marxist hell where the white middle class gets obliterated.

Its dead. When the rest of the world isn't laughing at us they are repulsed. And our values are all about money and personal vanity. Honestly, we have a better chance of nuking Australia than China.


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The rest of the world is *THIS* close to just saying "fuck it" and paying for their own defense. If it means they dont have to deal with America or Americans ever again, its worth it.


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The rest of the world is *THIS* close to just saying "fuck it" and paying for their own defense. If it means they dont have to deal with America or Americans ever again, its worth it.


There is nothing that the US would be more for than other countries paying for them to pay for their own defense. What the hell do you think that Trump has trotted out to NATO? Unfortunately the world doesn't believe in what you have just stated. The world rather would rather have had the US pay both in money and lives for defending "their" countries defense while they strike trade deals with the US enemies. Trump is a legitimate Presidential HERO in what he ahs done in forcing other countries to step up and pay their fair share

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The rest of the world is *THIS* close to just saying "fuck it" and paying for their own defense. If it means they dont have to deal with America or Americans ever again, its worth it.


There is nothing that the US would be more for than other countries paying for them to pay for their own defense. What the hell do you think that Trump has trotted out to NATO? Unfortunately the world doesn't believe in what you have just stated. The world rather would rather have had the US pay both in money and lives for defending "their" countries defense while they strike trade deals with the US enemies. Trump is a legitimate Presidential HERO in what he ahs done in forcing other countries to step up and pay their fair share

Well France already has basically said "thanks but no thanks" to American defense help. Others can always follow suit. Why should Australia and Japan align themselves with America? Those countries have actual values and principles. Things that they stand for.

The USA stands for nothing. Forced diversity quotas and extreme consumption. Oh, and dont forget the fact that our country is truly an environmental catastrophe.


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It is a disgrace that fine, upstanding nations of decent people have to play host to degenerate Americans in the name of global security. I think they're sick of it.


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The USA stands for nothing anymore. If you expect us to intervene because of this you're crazy.

Its up to the Indians, Japanese and Australians. The time has come for the rest of the world to move on from the dying empire and leave the shithole to rot.


Bullshit. This country is leading the world. The Dems are a dying result of European failures in Socialism/Communism. When Trump wins, he will kick out the vestiges of corruption that existed under decades of both Dem and Rep administrations. Who BTW is "us" as in "us to intervene"?

I give you a pass because you're a boomer (or even pre-boomer) so you have this totally wrong view of the USA's standing in the world. Really, its not your fault.

But this country is a joke. It really is. Our presidential is a barely functioning retard and then his opposition is a race-obsessed party that not-so-subtly wants a sort of twisted corporate-marxist hell where the white middle class gets obliterated.

Its dead. When the rest of the world isn't laughing at us they are repulsed. And our values are all about money and personal vanity. Honestly, we have a better chance of nuking Australia than China.


You are of course, wrong on all counts. And pardon me if I am not impressed by your assessment regarding the US standing in the world or your asinine bullshit of "giving me a pass". And when you talk bout nuking Australia it makes me really question your mental state. Why in the hell would we ever nuke Australia, binky

As for Trump being a barely functioning retard, that is so wrong that it makes me wonder further about your capacity of mental competence. Trump is a very smart man. Probably a genius but there are so few of us around that it is tough to certify one's genius. :drunken: :drunken: :drunken:

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My point was the USA's values are actaully closer to that of China's and we are more likely to turn against good, upstanding nations than to confront the only other nation with a population more vile than our own.


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The rest of the world is *THIS* close to just saying "fuck it" and paying for their own defense. If it means they dont have to deal with America or Americans ever again, its worth it.


There is nothing that the US would be more for than other countries paying for them to pay for their own defense. What the hell do you think that Trump has trotted out to NATO? Unfortunately the world doesn't believe in what you have just stated. The world rather would rather have had the US pay both in money and lives for defending "their" countries defense while they strike trade deals with the US enemies. Trump is a legitimate Presidential HERO in what he ahs done in forcing other countries to step up and pay their fair share

Well France already has basically said "thanks but no thanks" to American defense help. Others can always follow suit. Why should Australia and Japan align themselves with America? Those countries have actual values and principles. Things that they stand for.

The USA stands for nothing. Forced diversity quotas and extreme consumption. Oh, and dont forget the fact that our country is truly an environmental catastrophe.


YOu are one many arguing your opinion not the opinion of the countries that you mention. This is not the reality of the world. The other countries of the world that you mention know that without the US that they will be helpless against China who they know have attacked them with the China virus and fucked them in all way economic. YOu mention France. that's pretty funny. Of all of the silly, nonsensical countries of the world to bring up as far a world policy, France is by all means the worse. How did their immigration policy work out for them? How about their decision to join the Paris Green Initiative? Are the riots still going around in Paris?

As for our country being an "environmental catastrophe" please identify the specifics of that in real examples and terms. Not the idiotic rantings
of AOC and Al Gore and the other false prophets of global warming.

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It is a disgrace that fine, upstanding nations of decent people have to play host to degenerate Americans in the name of global security. I think they're sick of it.



Sure. Fortunately your view of the world is idiotic.

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YOu are one many arguing your opinion not the opinion of the countries that you mention. This is not the reality of the world. The other countries of the world that you mention know that without the US that they will be helpless against China who they know have attacked them with the China virus and fucked them in all way economic. YOu mention France. that's pretty funny. Of all of the silly, nonsensical countries of the world to bring up as far a world policy, France is by all means the worse. How did their immigration policy work out for them? How about their decision to join the Paris Green Initiative? Are the riots still going around in Paris?

As for our country being an "environmental catastrophe" please identify the specifics of that in real examples and terms. Not the idiotic rantings
of AOC and Al Gore and the other false prophets of global warming.

We pollute and consume to a cartoonish extent. Americans drive massive trucks just to go to the grocery store, people purposefully increase the emissions of their vehicles to "troll" environmentalists. Its retarded. The whole country is retarded.

Trust me, you WISH America had the crime rates of France.


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It is a disgrace that fine, upstanding nations of decent people have to play host to degenerate Americans in the name of global security. I think they're sick of it.



Sure. Fortunately your view of the world is idiotic.

Its an accurate representation of how the USA is viewed abroad.

America isn't hated. I think many people want to like the USA. But it is reviled for being the worst humanity has to offer, its repulsive. The country is just vile in every way and it has everything to do with the ignorant, fatslob majority.


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This thread needs a plane crash to end it.

Christ.

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It is a disgrace that fine, upstanding nations of decent people have to play host to degenerate Americans in the name of global security. I think they're sick of it.



Sure. Fortunately your view of the world is idiotic.

Its an accurate representation of how the USA is viewed abroad.

America isn't hated. I think many people want to like the USA. But it is reviled for being the worst humanity has to offer, its repulsive. The country is just vile in every way and it has everything to do with the ignorant, fatslob majority.

Good. The worse reputation we have, the better. The world can keep to itself and we'll keep to ourselves. Tech, food, manufacturing, energy. Not a problem.


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This thread needs a plane crash to end it.

Christ.


Preferably with you on the plane.


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Good. The worse reputation we have, the better. The world can keep to itself and we'll keep to ourselves. Tech, food, manufacturing, energy. Not a problem.

Except that's not how it works. The rest of the world can pretty easily poach the productive members of American society.


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Good. The worse reputation we have, the better. The world can keep to itself and we'll keep to ourselves. Tech, food, manufacturing, energy. Not a problem.

Except that's not how it works. The rest of the world can pretty easily poach the productive members of American society.


That is just poaching which is what many of the NATO nations have been doing pre-Trump. You mentioned France in a previous rant as not wanting out help. Well, like Trump told the NATO nations, if they don't pay their agreed to fair share, then they need to withdraw from NATO and go their own way. Bon Voyage to the sissy country. :wink: :wink: :wink:

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This thread needs a plane crash to end it.

Christ.


Preferably with you on the plane.

If that's what it takes.

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This thread needs a plane crash to end it.

Christ.


helicopter crash would be more appropriate.

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It is a disgrace that fine, upstanding nations of decent people have to play host to degenerate Americans in the name of global security. I think they're sick of it.


Give us all an example of a nation of a upstanding nation of "decent people" who play host(whatever that means) to "degenerate Americans" in the name of global security. First of all give us some examples of these nations who are better than the US. Second, how do these fine nations play host to the US? And then describe how as a country the US is DEGENERATE?

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Good. The worse reputation we have, the better. The world can keep to itself and we'll keep to ourselves. Tech, food, manufacturing, energy. Not a problem.

Except that's not how it works. The rest of the world can pretty easily poach the productive members of American society.

Like you?


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YOu are one many arguing your opinion not the opinion of the countries that you mention. This is not the reality of the world. The other countries of the world that you mention know that without the US that they will be helpless against China who they know have attacked them with the China virus and fucked them in all way economic. YOu mention France. that's pretty funny. Of all of the silly, nonsensical countries of the world to bring up as far a world policy, France is by all means the worse. How did their immigration policy work out for them? How about their decision to join the Paris Green Initiative? Are the riots still going around in Paris?

As for our country being an "environmental catastrophe" please identify the specifics of that in real examples and terms. Not the idiotic rantings
of AOC and Al Gore and the other false prophets of global warming.

We pollute and consume to a cartoonish extent. Americans drive massive trucks just to go to the grocery store, people purposefully increase the emissions of their vehicles to "troll" environmentalists. Its retarded. The whole country is retarded.

Trust me, you WISH America had the crime rates of France.


I drive a 2019 Dodge Challenger. My wife drives a Lexus crossover. I have had two Toyota Priuses before this, one of which was a plug in. I have solar panels on my home and pay virtually no electric bill. Last I looked, my wife and I are Americans. Are you one? IF you are, perhaps you ought to renounce your citizenship considering you believe that the US is so retarded. Go become a citizen of someplace else. Maybe go to France and strike up a friendship with all of those Muslim terrorists that that country let in by their idiot government?

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The USA stands for nothing anymore. If you expect us to intervene because of this you're crazy.

Its up to the Indians, Japanese and Australians. The time has come for the rest of the world to move on from the dying empire and leave the shithole to rot.


Bullshit. This country is leading the world. The Dems are a dying result of European failures in Socialism/Communism. When Trump wins, he will kick out the vestiges of corruption that existed under decades of both Dem and Rep administrations. Who BTW is "us" as in "us to intervene"?

I give you a pass because you're a boomer (or even pre-boomer) so you have this totally wrong view of the USA's standing in the world. Really, its not your fault.

But this country is a joke. It really is. Our presidential is a barely functioning retard and then his opposition is a race-obsessed party that not-so-subtly wants a sort of twisted corporate-marxist hell where the white middle class gets obliterated.

Its dead. When the rest of the world isn't laughing at us they are repulsed. And our values are all about money and personal vanity. Honestly, we have a better chance of nuking Australia than China.
Who you voted for and loudly endorsed...

Tell me, if you fell for his bullshit, doesn't that say even less about you?

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I'd ask Steve Kerr about this but he's still gathering the facts...

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The difference is that Morey wasn't calling people out for criticizing China either.


No he said nothing. Just like Lebron said nothing.

LeBron called out Morey for it.


Lebron said nothing about China. Just as Morey did when Yao was on the team. He never said anything when he actually had something to lose. If he would have bashed China he would have been fired and he knew that.
LeBron specifically called Morey's comments on Hong Kong "misinformed". That is tacit support of China, as you well know.


Ok so why are bashing others for remaining "silent" on the issue then?

You do that all the time!

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The NBA works for China. Literally.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/we- ... academies/

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“Imagine you have a kid who’s 13, 14 years old, and you’ve got a grown coach who is 40 years old hitting your kid,” one former coach told ESPN. “We’re part of that. The NBA is part of that.”

Bruce Palmer, a former technical director at a Chinese school that partnered with the NBA, said he had to repeatedly tell Chinese instructors not to strike their students. Palmer said the school’s principal told him that hitting the students has “been proven to be effective as a teaching tool.”

The NBA’s arrangement placed operations of the academies under Chinese authority. “We were basically working for the Chinese government,” another former coach said.


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One person who seems positively nonplussed about this situation is the NBA’s deputy commissioner and COO, Mark Tatum, who comes across in the report as a desiccated ruin of a human being. This is not to say that the authors describe him as such; they merely relay his own words, which are more than enough to paint a picture of his character. “When pressed,” Fainaru and Fainaru-Wada write, “Tatum declined to say whether human rights were a factor” in the closure of the Xinjiang academy. And when he was willing to speak about what the league has done in China, he did so in disgustingly euphemistic terms. “We do need to have more direct oversight and the ability to make staffing changes when appropriate,” he said. That’s corporate-speak for “maybe we should try to hire some Chinese coaches who won’t beat the living daylights out of children, but we’ll have to see if the commies allow us to.” Elsewhere in the story, one of the NBA’s ex-coaches said it better: “Imagine you have a kid who’s 13, 14 years old, and you’ve got a grown coach who is 40 years old hitting your kid. We’re part of that. The NBA is part of that.” But when the reporters presented Tatum with this information, he pleaded the same lack of expertise in matters of elementary morality that NBA players did last year when confronted with similar inconvenient truths:

"My job, our job is not to take a position on every single human rights violation, and I’m not an expert in every human rights situation or violation. I’ll tell you what the NBA stands for: The values of the NBA are about respect, are about inclusion, are about diversity. That is what we stand for."


The NBA cannot say whether the concentration camps holding Uyghur mulsims, which undoubtedly contain some former attendees of their basketball camps, are bad, and they explicitly do not feel the need to comment on the human rights abuses committed by the government from which they hope to glean billions of dollars. But it IS their job to put "Black Lives Matter" on their basketball courts.


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One person who seems positively nonplussed about this situation is the NBA’s deputy commissioner and COO, Mark Tatum, who comes across in the report as a desiccated ruin of a human being. This is not to say that the authors describe him as such; they merely relay his own words, which are more than enough to paint a picture of his character. “When pressed,” Fainaru and Fainaru-Wada write, “Tatum declined to say whether human rights were a factor” in the closure of the Xinjiang academy. And when he was willing to speak about what the league has done in China, he did so in disgustingly euphemistic terms. “We do need to have more direct oversight and the ability to make staffing changes when appropriate,” he said. That’s corporate-speak for “maybe we should try to hire some Chinese coaches who won’t beat the living daylights out of children, but we’ll have to see if the commies allow us to.” Elsewhere in the story, one of the NBA’s ex-coaches said it better: “Imagine you have a kid who’s 13, 14 years old, and you’ve got a grown coach who is 40 years old hitting your kid. We’re part of that. The NBA is part of that.” But when the reporters presented Tatum with this information, he pleaded the same lack of expertise in matters of elementary morality that NBA players did last year when confronted with similar inconvenient truths:

"My job, our job is not to take a position on every single human rights violation, and I’m not an expert in every human rights situation or violation. I’ll tell you what the NBA stands for: The values of the NBA are about respect, are about inclusion, are about diversity. That is what we stand for."


The NBA cannot say whether the concentration camps holding Uyghur mulsims, which undoubtedly contain some former attendees of their basketball camps, are bad, and they explicitly do not feel the need to comment on the human rights abuses committed by the government from which they hope to glean billions of dollars. But it IS their job to put "Black Lives Matter" on their basketball courts.


Perhaps because the vast majority of NBA Lives happen to be black?
You aren't upset because aren't speaking out against Chinese atrocities. You can't care less about the plight of Muslims. They aren't worth the dirt under your Florsheim laced shoes. You have no affinity for them.
You are mad because they dare to speak out against what they consider to be American atrocities.

How dare those black guys speak out against things affecting the communities in which they once lived? Who in the hell do they think they are?

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