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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:07 am 
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She has a case too. That is what is lost in this. There were forces working against her. I don't know that any of it cost her the election. I haven't researched it enough to say one way or another.
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He really sounds like a guy who has accepted the election results. :lol:

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She has a case too. That is what is lost in this. There were forces working against her. I don't know that any of it cost her the election. I haven't researched it enough to say one way or another.
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He really sounds like a guy who has accepted the election results. :lol:



The stuff regarding voter suppression is real. I'm still wondering where you bashed Sanders about "not accepting the results"?

I also never made a big deal out of voter suppression either.

You are so biased against the Clintons that you can't see straight. You have no objectivity where she is concerned.

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She has a case too. That is what is lost in this. There were forces working against her. I don't know that any of it cost her the election. I haven't researched it enough to say one way or another.
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He really sounds like a guy who has accepted the election results. :lol:



The stuff regarding voter suppression is real. I'm still wondering where you bashed Sanders about "not accepting the results"?

I also never made a big deal out of voter suppression either.

You are so biased against the Clintons that you can't see straight. You have no objectivity where she is concerned.


Stop lying.

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they're on the money when it comes to the broader point about her not "accepting" the result of the election being complete crap. It's just another red herring for Trump apologists to latch onto.


Well, you're simply mistaken. Or were you sleeping when she refused to concede? But I understand that someone might find Trump so distasteful that they don't see anything wrong with suing him for winning.

And you look ridiculous when you make statements like this considering everything she has said and done post election. Look at the fucking title of this thread. Yeah, she actually said that.


And you still can't provide one shred of evidence to support your claim that she "challenged" the results.


I never said she challenged the results. I said she refuses to accept them and her sycophants follow her lead.

Every Hillary supporter was aghast when Trump wouldn't commit to accepting the election results. So let me ask you this. If Trump had lost and refused to accept the election results, how would it have looked?



Accepting the results is nothing. Al Gore probably has never accepted losing in 2000. Bernie didn't and still doesn't accept losing in the primary. I'm quite sure if i utlilized that crack search function of yours i'd quickly see that there wasn't one complaint from you about Bernie not accepting the results.


I'm fairly certain that you never implored him or his supporters to "get over it". Since its Hillary then its shut the fuck up.

I want her to get over it too. She is done. That still isn't the same as challenging the results. Sour grapes and a sore loser yes.

She has a case too. That is what is lost in this. There were forces working against her. I don't know that any of it cost her the election. I haven't researched it enough to say one way or another.


Bernie endorsed Clinton. How dishonest can a person be? I'm losing interest in the discussion because you're so disingenuous. You've railed about how my statement is wrong for months. You were appalled when Trump suggested he might not accept the results if he lost. And suddenly "accepting the results is nothing." And finally, you go all in and declare that she is right in refusing to accept the results. :lol: You're really full of shit.



No you are full of shit. Sanders openly discussed fucking up the convention. He also discussed the need for the process to be changed. He also discussed conducting a recount of the electoral votes. He also implored his voters to go to the convention and shake things up.


They had to cut deals with him in order to gain his vote.

As i stated before you are so fucking biased against the Clintons that you can't see straight.

You act like she shouldn't or can't be upset about losing. Who the fuck are you to tell somebody how they should feel?

Bernie Sanders started bashing the shit out of her and whining as soon as the General was over yet conveniently that escaped your rather prejudiced and biased lenses. He didn't and still hasn't accepted shit yet you don't hold him accountable.
Until she openly challenges the results then this is a non story.

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Barney Frank sure was prophetic when he made these statements. I wonder if he knew how much

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Hypocrite.Sanders sure was quick to concede following his defeat wasn't he Jorr? I'm sure you being the upstanding guy that you are blasted him for it too.

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Hypocrite.Sanders sure was quick to concede following his defeat wasn't he Jorr? I'm sure you being the upstanding guy that you are blasted him for it too.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/2 ... m-Policies



Read Nas's post above.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Hypocrite.Sanders sure was quick to concede following his defeat wasn't he Jorr? I'm sure you being the upstanding guy that you are blasted him for it too.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/2 ... m-Policies



Read Nas's post above.


He provided an opinion and i disagree with him about wanting to win. He wanted to win he just lost. The media actually favored Sanders tremendously too. His record was never really examined as they were more interested in seeing a horserace. They also made it appear that the race was closer than it actually ever was. She was never in any danger.

As Frank said he was a "caucus" candidate. Caucuses are undemocratic as hell yet Sanders supporters were loathe to complain about them for some reason. He lost by 4 million votes.

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Hypocrite.Sanders sure was quick to concede following his defeat wasn't he Jorr? I'm sure you being the upstanding guy that you are blasted him for it too.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/2 ... m-Policies



Read Nas's post above.


He provided an opinion and i disagree with him about wanting to win. He wanted to win he just lost. The media actually favored Sanders tremendously too. His record was never really examined as they were more interested in seeing a horserace. They also made it appear that the race was closer than it actually ever was. She was never in any danger.

As Frank said he was a "caucus" candidate. Caucuses are undemocratic as hell yet Sanders supporters were loathe to complain about them for some reason. He lost by 4 million votes.


My point is that the party can send whoever it wants as its nominee. Infighting over the nomination or the nominating process of a party is private business. It's not in any way the same as refusing to accept the results of the actual election.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Hypocrite.Sanders sure was quick to concede following his defeat wasn't he Jorr? I'm sure you being the upstanding guy that you are blasted him for it too.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/2 ... m-Policies



Read Nas's post above.


He provided an opinion and i disagree with him about wanting to win. He wanted to win he just lost. The media actually favored Sanders tremendously too. His record was never really examined as they were more interested in seeing a horserace. They also made it appear that the race was closer than it actually ever was. She was never in any danger.

As Frank said he was a "caucus" candidate. Caucuses are undemocratic as hell yet Sanders supporters were loathe to complain about them for some reason. He lost by 4 million votes.


My point is that the party can send whoever it wants as its nominee. Infighting over the nomination or the nominating process of a party is private business. It's not in any way the same as refusing to accept the results of the actual election.


Here is the other lie you keep telling regarding concession. She conceded the same night as the election yet it wasn't quick enough for your liking so somehow it is the same as not conceding at all.

If she wanted to drag it out she could have. She conceded and also gave a good concession speech but it still wasn't good enough for you though.

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She conceded the same night as the election


Only because Obama shamed her and she didn't publicly concede. That was the beginning of the refusal to accept that results. It was unprecedented.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:05 am 
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they're on the money when it comes to the broader point about her not "accepting" the result of the election being complete crap. It's just another red herring for Trump apologists to latch onto.


Well, you're simply mistaken. Or were you sleeping when she refused to concede? But I understand that someone might find Trump so distasteful that they don't see anything wrong with suing him for winning.

And you look ridiculous when you make statements like this considering everything she has said and done post election. Look at the fucking title of this thread. Yeah, she actually said that.

Speaking of Trumpkins who latch on to red herrings...


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:08 am 
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The DNC leadership was biased towards a Democrat. Why is that shocking? They owed Bernie Sanders nothing and he didn't want to win anyway. IF he did he would have easily been the Democratic nominee and I may have even liked him. If we're choosing a CFMB nominee I imagine we would be biased towards our long time members and not a guy who primarily claimed to be a member of GreenBayFanatics.com

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:12 am 
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She conceded the same night as the election


Only because Obama shamed her and she didn't publicly concede. That was the beginning of the refusal to accept that results. It was unprecedented.

Are you really this daft? Honest question.


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She conceded the same night as the election


Only because Obama shamed her and she didn't publicly concede. That was the beginning of the refusal to accept that results. It was unprecedented.

Are you really this daft? Honest question.



Here's the thing. I'll stack my reputation up against yours and you'll lose every time. That's something you have to deal with. Now tell us how you don't care about what shitheads on this message board think and how the Caller Bob you play at CFMB isn't you. Oh, and have a great day!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:18 am 
So instead of having an actual defendable position that sane people can comprehend, you attack me. Drinking early today I see.


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So instead of having an actual defendable position that sane people can comprehend, you attack me. Drinking early today I see.



See, that doesn't work. Nearly every post you make is an attack on someone. And everyone here knows it. I know, I know, you don't care. You're a great person.

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There is one thing the President tweeted that makes some sense and can possibly put all this shit to rest and expose the DNC/Clintons /Democrats,if it is there. With them suing him he can counter sue and ask for all kinds of stuff. This might back-fire on the Dems a lot more than help. Disclosure is a useful tool.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:35 am 
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So instead of having an actual defendable position that sane people can comprehend, you attack me. Drinking early today I see.



See, that doesn't work. Nearly every post you make is an attack on someone. And everyone here knows it. I know, I know, you don't care. You're a great person.

Pointing out what you are doing doesn't work because.... I do it too?
Seriously man. It's 8:30. Put the bottle down and get some covefe.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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She conceded the same night as the election


Only because Obama shamed her and she didn't publicly concede. That was the beginning of the refusal to accept that results. It was unprecedented.

Are you really this daft? Honest question.



Here's the thing. I'll stack my reputation up against yours and you'll lose every time. That's something you have to deal with. Now tell us how you don't care about what shitheads on this message board think and how the Caller Bob you play at CFMB isn't you. Oh, and have a great day!


:lol: Why would anyone play a complete jerkoff as a bit?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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She conceded the same night as the election


Only because Obama shamed her and she didn't publicly concede. That was the beginning of the refusal to accept that results. It was unprecedented.

Are you really this daft? Honest question.



Here's the thing. I'll stack my reputation up against yours and you'll lose every time. That's something you have to deal with. Now tell us how you don't care about what shitheads on this message board think and how the Caller Bob you play at CFMB isn't you. Oh, and have a great day!


:lol: Why would anyone play a complete jerkoff as a bit?

Um.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:37 am 
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There is one thing the President tweeted that makes some sense and can possibly put all this shit to rest and expose the DNC/Clintons /Democrats,if it is there. With them suing him he can counter sue and ask for all kinds of stuff. This might back-fire on the Dems a lot more than help. Disclosure is a useful tool.

The nation would benefit greatly from him filing a counter suit. "Yes Mr. President. Yes we are going to trial Mr President. Right this way please. We have some questions for you to answer under oath." Now, I'm not the Harvard Lawyer that Juicy claims to be, but I think Trump going under oath is the last thing his lawyers want.


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leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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She conceded the same night as the election


Only because Obama shamed her and she didn't publicly concede. That was the beginning of the refusal to accept that results. It was unprecedented.

Are you really this daft? Honest question.



Here's the thing. I'll stack my reputation up against yours and you'll lose every time. That's something you have to deal with. Now tell us how you don't care about what shitheads on this message board think and how the Caller Bob you play at CFMB isn't you. Oh, and have a great day!


:lol: Why would anyone play a complete jerkoff as a bit?

At least you're admitting it now. That's the first step.


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Besides the recent tax cuts, can I get a list of the president's policies that MANY are excited about? How they've impacted your life would help too.

I promise not to criticize the policies that any of you list. I really just want to get a better understanding of what you guys or gals like.


Besides America's there haven't been any other responses.


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Here's James Woods' list:

Defeat of ISIS
Burdensome regulatory relief
Border integrity
Census integrity
Denuclearization of the Korean peninsula
Immigration sanctity
Tax relief
Lowest unemployment in years
Record black employment
Strengthened military
Sensible trade agreements

Of course, many of these could be spun as negatives depending on one's beliefs (i.e., tax relief = greater wealth inequality, regulatory relief = destroying the environment, etc).

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Besides the recent tax cuts, can I get a list of the president's policies that MANY are excited about? How they've impacted your life would help too.

I promise not to criticize the policies that any of you list. I really just want to get a better understanding of what you guys or gals like.


Besides America's there haven't been any other responses.


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Here's James Woods' list:

Defeat of ISIS
Burdensome regulatory relief
Border integrity
Census integrity
Denuclearization of the Korean peninsula
Immigration sanctity
Tax relief
Lowest unemployment in years
Record black employment
Strengthened military
Sensible trade agreements

Of course, many of these could be spun as negatives depending on one's beliefs (i.e., tax relief = greater wealth inequality, regulatory relief = destroying the environment, etc).



I would also submit that about half of them haven't actually happened.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Nas wrote:
Nas wrote:
Nas wrote:
Besides the recent tax cuts, can I get a list of the president's policies that MANY are excited about? How they've impacted your life would help too.

I promise not to criticize the policies that any of you list. I really just want to get a better understanding of what you guys or gals like.


Besides America's there haven't been any other responses.


wdelaney72 has been added to the list


Here's James Woods' list:

Defeat of ISIS
Burdensome regulatory relief
Border integrity
Census integrity
Denuclearization of the Korean peninsula
Immigration sanctity
Tax relief
Lowest unemployment in years
Record black employment
Strengthened military
Sensible trade agreements

Of course, many of these could be spun as negatives depending on one's beliefs (i.e., tax relief = greater wealth inequality, regulatory relief = destroying the environment, etc).



I would also submit that about half of them haven't actually happened.


:lol:

Yeah that's a bit of an issue...

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Many of them are also unquantifiable generalizations.

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Many of them are also unquantifiable generalizations.


It's just how I feel...

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