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about an angry black man complaining.


Except that's not at all what happened.


It is. We all know Richard Sherman can't do what he said.


So, you have no problem with Richard Sherman, upset with a line of questioning from a reporter, telling him "Don't go there, I'll ruin your career"? And people that think it's pretty shitty are...what racist?


Put away your White Victim Card. Richard Sherman was upset with the question and made a bullshit threat and he apologized for it.


Again, you demonstrate a curious lack of knowledge of the facts. He said: "I let it get personal today and I regret that". That's not an apology in any common usage of the term.

And that's the second time you've brought up race, why? What does race have to do with any of this?


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Why should he apologize?

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Why should he apologize?


Who said he has to?


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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about an angry black man complaining.


Except that's not at all what happened.


It is. We all know Richard Sherman can't do what he said.


So, you have no problem with Richard Sherman, upset with a line of questioning from a reporter, telling him "Don't go there, I'll ruin your career"? And people that think it's pretty shitty are...what racist?


Put away your White Victim Card. Richard Sherman was upset with the question and made a bullshit threat and he apologized for it.


Again, you demonstrate a curious lack of knowledge of the facts. He said: "I let it get personal today and I regret that". That's not an apology in any common usage of the term.

And that's the second time you've brought up race, why? What does race have to do with any of this?


I see you edited out another statement. Yes, I would feel the same way if it was Cutler or the Green Giant, would you? Put away your White Victim Card. He was remorseful. That's close enough.

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Nas wrote:
I see you edited out another statement. Yes, I would feel the same way if it was Cutler or the Green Giant, would you? Put away your White Victim Card. He was remorseful. That's close enough.


Can you explain why you keep bringing up my race or the race of others? Is my Victim Card, or others like it, not accepted here or otherwise valued less?


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Why should he apologize?


Who said he has to?


I don't want to speak for Nas but, you brought the words "that's not an apology" into the equation. It seems clear that his response wasn't contrite enough for your tastes.

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And Nas, what are your thoughts on the whole thing with DeMarcus Cousins? "Big Deal" or "No Big Deal"?


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SpiralStairs wrote:
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Why should he apologize?


Who said he has to?


I don't want to speak for Nas but, you brought the words "that's not an apology" into the equation. It seems clear that his response wasn't contrite enough for your tastes.


Nas made a statement of fact: "he apologized".

I applied the colloquial definition of "apologize" to the words and sentiments espoused by Sherman after the events, and found them severely lacking of the key elements of an apology (remorse as opposed to regret, as well as identification of specific wrongdoing). Thus, Nas's statement of fact was in error, Sherman actually had not "apologized", merely "expressed some unknown amount of regret".

If I said something offensive to you, and my apology went "I'm sorry you're so offended", you would be correct in observing that what I said isn't actually apologetic, even in the face of me saying "Dude, I apologized, what do you want?".

I expressed no expectation that Sherman apologize.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nas wrote:
I see you edited out another statement. Yes, I would feel the same way if it was Cutler or the Green Giant, would you? Put away your White Victim Card. He was remorseful. That's close enough.


Can you explain why you keep bringing up my race or the race of others? Is my Victim Card, or others like it, not accepted here or otherwise valued less?


Because you're bringing up. First you insinuated that I believe that you and others that are complaining are racist. You edited that out of your post. Next you insinuated that I only have an issue with your gripe because Sherman is black. You did that by asking me if I would say the same thing if it were Cutler. When you make statements like that I am going to politely ask you to put it away. It was unnecessary and just another sign that you had a shitty argument.

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And Nas, what are your thoughts on the whole thing with DeMarcus Cousins? "Big Deal" or "No Big Deal"?


I don't know. How should I feel? Would you prefer I comment on McDermott?

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Nas wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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I see you edited out another statement. Yes, I would feel the same way if it was Cutler or the Green Giant, would you? Put away your White Victim Card. He was remorseful. That's close enough.


Can you explain why you keep bringing up my race or the race of others? Is my Victim Card, or others like it, not accepted here or otherwise valued less?


Because you're bringing up. First you insinuated that I believe that you and others that are complaining are racist.


Is that not the insinuation you were trying to make, because this sure sounds like it:

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Lots of angry white men complaining about an angry black man complaining.


What was the original intention of the "lots of angry white men..." line quoted above, if not to insinuate that those white people who had a problem with Sherman's actions were racist?


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Nas wrote:
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And Nas, what are your thoughts on the whole thing with DeMarcus Cousins? "Big Deal" or "No Big Deal"?


I don't know. How should I feel? Would you prefer I comment on McDermott?


Oh come on, you think its overblown, right? Boogie should be free to physically intimidate a reporter without people whipping out their WVC's, right? Come on, just say it....


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
SpiralStairs wrote:
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Why should he apologize?


Who said he has to?


I don't want to speak for Nas but, you brought the words "that's not an apology" into the equation. It seems clear that his response wasn't contrite enough for your tastes.


Nas made a statement of fact: "he apologized".

I applied the colloquial definition of "apologize" to the words and sentiments espoused by Sherman after the events, and found them severely lacking of the key elements of an apology (remorse as opposed to regret, as well as identification of specific wrongdoing). Thus, Nas's statement of fact was in error, Sherman actually had not "apologized", merely "expressed some unknown amount of regret".

If I said something offensive to you, and my apology went "I'm sorry you're so offended", you would be correct in observing that what I said isn't actually apologetic, even in the face of me saying "Dude, I apologized, what do you want?".

I expressed no expectation that Sherman apologize.


Richard Sherman is a dick. News at 11.

You and Nas keep fighting though.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nas wrote:
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I see you edited out another statement. Yes, I would feel the same way if it was Cutler or the Green Giant, would you? Put away your White Victim Card. He was remorseful. That's close enough.


Can you explain why you keep bringing up my race or the race of others? Is my Victim Card, or others like it, not accepted here or otherwise valued less?


Because you're bringing up. First you insinuated that I believe that you and others that are complaining are racist.


Is that not the insinuation you were trying to make, because this sure sounds like it:

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Lots of angry white men complaining about an angry black man complaining.


What was the original intention of the "lots of angry white men..." line quoted above, if not to insinuate that those white people who had a problem with Sherman's actions were racist?


No. I'm not really a subtle type of guy. I have no problem saying what I think. I don't make a habit of casually calling people racist.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nas wrote:
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And Nas, what are your thoughts on the whole thing with DeMarcus Cousins? "Big Deal" or "No Big Deal"?


I don't know. How should I feel? Would you prefer I comment on McDermott?


Oh come on, you think its overblown, right? Boogie should be free to physically intimidate a reporter without people whipping out their WVC's, right? Come on, just say it....


Of course physically threatening a reporter is the same a making a bullshit statement.

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JLN I'd still buy you a beer, but your SJW erection is kind of showing right now.

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Nas wrote:
Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
I see you edited out another statement. Yes, I would feel the same way if it was Cutler or the Green Giant, would you? Put away your White Victim Card. He was remorseful. That's close enough.


Can you explain why you keep bringing up my race or the race of others? Is my Victim Card, or others like it, not accepted here or otherwise valued less?


Because you're bringing up. First you insinuated that I believe that you and others that are complaining are racist.


Is that not the insinuation you were trying to make, because this sure sounds like it:

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Lots of angry white men complaining about an angry black man complaining.


What was the original intention of the "lots of angry white men..." line quoted above, if not to insinuate that those white people who had a problem with Sherman's actions were racist?


No. I'm not really a subtle type of guy. I have no problem saying what I think. I don't make a habit of casually calling people racist.


MANY people are saying this.

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I assume JLN would have been white knighting for Jennifer Frey and bagging on Jack Morris back in the day, no? Who would have guessed he had such a hard on for the fourth estate.

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Intimidation!

Sherman should have just shot the wall 8 times.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2516368#p2516368

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I think we're losing the plot a little here, which is that a defensive back showing up the offensive coordinator seems like the kind of issue a well-coached team would try to nip in the bud. Kind of an "I don't come down to where you work and slap the dick out of your mouth" scenario.

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I miss this kind of antagonism between our local sports talk stations and the teams.

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Sherman is a bitch.

HE WENT TO STANFORD!

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I assume JLN would have been white knighting for Jennifer Frey and bagging on Jack Morris back in the day, no? Who would have guessed he had such a hard on for the fourth estate.


Not long ago these same media members actually had the power to destroy players and MANY of them used it.

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JLN I'd still buy you a beer, but your SJW erection is kind of showing right now.


It's the pleats in the pants...they're very flattering in the crotchal region. I'm actually taking them back...to the pants store.

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“then you should probably kind of stop.’’


Who knew Richard Sherman was a white girl from Madison who comments on obscure feminist blogs? Sherman isn't even any good anymore and the Seahawks are probably running out of reasons to keep him around.





He's still pretty damn good, the best player on that Defense for the last 3-4 years was Earl Thomas.

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JLN I'd still buy you a beer, but your SJW erection is kind of showing right now.


:lol: :lol:

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Where does one pickup their white victim card? Asking for a Caucasian friend

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