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I drink a ton of Diet Coke too, but I know what I am doing and the problems it can cause also. I just don't care. It still shocks me that anyone drinks regular soda though.

Cancer is awesome.
At least right now, the diet soda causes cancer thing is a myth.
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It still shocks me that anyone drinks regular soda though.
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I havent researched it myself, but I've heard people saying Diet is actually worse for you.
Those people are wrong.

However, Diet Soda isn't really good for diets, but it's better than the empty calories contained in regular soda. There seems to be strong evidence that it actually makes you hungrier and those who don't drink diet soda eat less.

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I drink a ton of Diet Coke too, but I know what I am doing and the problems it can cause also. I just don't care. It still shocks me that anyone drinks regular soda though.

Cancer is awesome.


When Rick gets cancer from the Diet Coke, he will get medical marijuana, and his pot argument will have gone full circle.

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When Rick get cancer from the Diet Coke, he will get medical marijuana, and his pot argument will have gone full circle.
That's why I want medical marijuana to be legal, and I wouldn't even have to lie about it like most do now!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:42 pm 
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When Rick get cancer from the Diet Coke, he will get medical marijuana, and his pot argument will have gone full circle.
That's why I want medical marijuana to be legal, and I wouldn't even have to lie about it like most do now!

Chus well done, but you forgot the part where he gets stoned and relaxed and never gets into conflict with anybody ever again.

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it's a matter of time / fait accompli that, invariably, you are going to be fed corn in 5000 different ways because basically part of the american dream is eating corn all day long.... and loving it!


If you choose to........

We are big anti-HFCS and I would say very little if any of our food has it in it. We buy organic. It's more costly than the mass produced garbage but I'll gladly pay it. The shit I see parents giving their kids, especially toddlers, make me sick.


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Coke was losing market share to Pepsi at the time at an alarming rate.

New Coke ws a sweeter alternative to Pepsi.

Do you check family members for guns before they are allowed to enter your home?

I have read the above, Mr. Seacrest, and I know that you are a man who shares a common disdain for the idea of mandatory vaccinations, so I would think that you might ingest all available material on the subject before reflexively condescending from an uninformed podium in yet another transparent attempt to further your foolhardy agenda of chastisement and stabbing at your newest opportunity to finally head a successful public shaming, however, the above things you cite fail to preclude the exit of pure cane sugar as an additive in favor of the laboratory-created HFCS as being the true motivation behind the alleged "ploy".



I don't have time to care why Coke did what they did Panther. And the switch to HFCS was purely a financial one.

Furthermore, my views and attitudes about my disdain for the medical community are well chronicled here. No shame intended or implied.

Are you going to answer the gun question now?

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The Navy shot down a passenger plane and Panther is posting about a conspiracy from the mid 80s that involves one of the lamest debates of all time, HFCS or sugar... Who cares, no one gets out of here alive.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Who cares? Anyone who drinks regular coke deserves whatever they get, whether it is with real sugar, or cane sugar, or cocaine in it.

I drink a ton of Diet Coke too, but I know what I am doing and the problems it can cause also. I just don't care. It still shocks me that anyone drinks regular soda though.

By the way, the 10 calorie drinks they've come out with like A&W 10 and Sunkist 10 are really good too.

Diet pop tastes like shit, that's why people drink regular pop. Diet Dr Pepper isn't too bad, but give me the real shit anytime. You can take your artificial sweeteners & stuff them in a sack.


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Coke cut with xanax was always fun.


Fuck yeah. Takes the edge off.

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Diet pop tastes like shit, that's why people drink regular pop. Diet Dr Pepper isn't too bad, but give me the real shit anytime. You can take your artificial sweeteners & stuff them in a sack.
If you drink it for one month without having regular pop you get used to it and like it just as much.

Most people don't like beer the first few times they have it either. It's an acquired taste too.

I'll do what I want with my sack.

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I'll do what I want with my sack.

Enjoy ball cancer.

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Everything gives you cancer, for fuck sake. I can't keep track, so I don't try.

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And there was some recet study that said diet soda causes meth mouth too.


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When Rick get cancer from the Diet Coke, he will get medical marijuana, and his pot argument will have gone full circle.
That's why I want medical marijuana to be legal, and I wouldn't even have to lie about it like most do now!

Chus well done, but you forgot the part where he gets stoned and relaxed and never gets into conflict with anybody ever again.
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Chus wrote:
When Rick get cancer from the Diet Coke, he will get medical marijuana, and his pot argument will have gone full circle.
That's why I want medical marijuana to be legal, and I wouldn't even have to lie about it like most do now!

Chus well done, but you forgot the part where he gets stoned and relaxed and never gets into conflict with anybody ever again.
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I havent researched it myself, but I've heard people saying Diet is actually worse for you.
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Those people are wrong.

How can you be so sure?

I mean you abolutely cant be sure. These "theories" on what consuming X does to your body long term are constantly changing


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How can you be so sure?

I mean you abolutely cant be sure. These "theories" on what consuming X does to your body long term are constantly changing
Things could change in the future, but there has been a ton of research about this and at least for now the evidence points to diet soda not being worse than regular soda. I can't see the future and maybe something will come out that changes it eventually but by that criteria we can never really say anyone is wrong about anything.

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Q.Bovifs wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
I havent researched it myself, but I've heard people saying Diet is actually worse for you.
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Those people are wrong.

How can you be so sure?

I mean you abolutely cant be sure. These "theories" on what consuming X does to your body long term are constantly changing

My uncle was just told he has stage 4 liver failure and his MD told him that it could possibly be related to the case of Diet Coke he drank each and every day.


A case?

Well, yeah, that's a shit ton of something to drink everyday for several years.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
How can you be so sure?

I mean you abolutely cant be sure. These "theories" on what consuming X does to your body long term are constantly changing
Things could change in the future, but there has been a ton of research about this and at least for now the evidence points to diet soda not being worse than regular soda. I can't see the future and maybe something will come out that changes it eventually but by that criteria we can never really say anyone is wrong about anything.

Id say the evidence points to them being equally bad with different downfalls.


I like regular pop, but Ive been drinking Zero lately


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Id say the evidence points to them being equally bad with different downfalls.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/sugary-vs-diet-drinks/

Sugary Soda: Bad
Diet Soda: Better, but not the best
Water/Seltzer: Best

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Id say the evidence points to them being equally bad with different downfalls.


I've heard this in a variety of forums as well.

I've cut my Coca-Cola habit down from a high of 2.5-3 liters a day to maybe 2-3 liters a week (sometimes none for weeks).....unless I make the mistake of a quick McDonald's lunch, with their specially formulated (and best of all) Coke.

The headaches I got when I first drastically cut back :evil:

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Id say the evidence points to them being equally bad with different downfalls.


I've heard this in a variety of forums as well.

I've cut my Coca-Cola habit down from a high of 2.5-3 liters a day to maybe 2-3 liters a week (sometimes none for weeks).....unless I make the mistake of a quick McDonald's lunch, with their specially formulated (and best of all) Coke.

The headaches I got when I first drastically cut back :evil:


5 or 6 cokes a day? That's quite a bit, you didn't turn into a diabetic, did you?

Cutting it down to 2-3 liters per week must have been tough, it's tasty and it does some pretty drastic things to you bodies feedback cycles.

And yes, McDonald's coke is the best by a mile or 2.

Cutting out soft drinks is one of the easiest ways to get healthy and cut weight.


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Cutting out soft drinks is one of the easiest ways to get healthy and cut weight.

This.

Anyone who is overweight can probably shed a shit load of pounds just by cutting out Soda. The headaches will suck, but it's just like going through withdrawl of any other kind of drug. Eventually, things will improve.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Id say the evidence points to them being equally bad with different downfalls.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/sugary-vs-diet-drinks/

Sugary Soda: Bad
Diet Soda: Better, but not the best
Water/Seltzer: Best

Im not gonna waste everyone's time posting a link that says the opposite because its pretty clear that their is no clear cut answer.

Im not sure why you always need to be so sure


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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/05/29/187050058/soda-mouth-can-look-a-lot-like-meth-mouth


Soda drinks/"energy" drinks are pretty bad for you.


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Im not gonna waste everyone's time posting a link that says the opposite because its pretty clear that their is no clear cut answer.

Im not sure why you always need to be so sure
Why not be sure? Empty calories are bad. Regular soda is empty calories. Diet soda is not.

Now, the question is how much better diet soda is, and there is some strong evidence that it has similar brain effects, but it still doesn't provide you extra calories so it is better.

Most of the articles you reference that people who drink diet soda may not lose weight but that's a correlation. Many people have lost weight by switching from regular soda to diet soda. Logically, it wouldn't make sense to switch back to regular soda and lose weight since one of the basic concepts of weight loss is lowering your calorie count and limiting sugar.

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Pepsi outside California still has chemical linked to cancer

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(Reuters) - Pepsi-Cola is still using caramel coloring containing a chemical linked to cancer in rodents, a report released on Wednesday showed, more than a year after the beverage maker promised to phase it out.

The Center for Environmental Health said that PepsiCo Inc. lagged its rival Coca-Cola in removing the chemical, called 4-methylimidazole, or 4-MI.

Coke and Pepsi said in March 2012 that they would make changes to the production of the caramel coloring used in their namesake colas to avoid the need to label the packages with a cancer warning following a California ballot initiative aimed at limiting people's exposure to toxic chemicals.

This spring, CEH tested samples of Coke and Pepsi purchased from California and 10 other states. Its findings showed no 4-MI in any soda from California. In the samples from the other states, CEH said nine of 10 Coke drinks had little or none of the chemical, while all the Pepsi samples did.

"Pepsi's delay is inexplicable," Michael Green, CEH's executive director, said in a statement. "We urge the company to take swift action to provide all Americans with the same safer product they're selling in California."

In response, PepsiCo said the modification for the rest of the United States would be completed by February 2014. It said it is also undertaking the effort globally, even though regulators in the United States, Europe and Canada consider the chemical safe.

Very high levels of 4-MI have been linked to cancer in animals. It was added last year to a list of chemicals covered by California's Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986, also known as Proposition 65.

Coke said it modified its sodas for California first so they would not have to carry a warning. But since it makes no sense to have separate inventories of products, it started using a modified caramel for U.S. markets beyond California.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said last year that a person would have to drink "well over a thousand cans of soda a day to reach the doses administered in the studies that have shown links to cancer in rodents."

(Reporting by Martinne Geller in New York; Editing by Dan Grebler)

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