One thing I can say is that thanks to unions work conditions vastly improved due to their efforts. That being said the lack of a union now would not take things back to 1912 conditions. There are laws on the books as mentioned but also there is an accepted level people as to what is right for lack of a better term. People and companies for the most part know what works and doesn't for them. Most people would not accept a 100 hour a week job or let their 12 year old work regardless of need. Companies, outside of Amazon apparently, spend money and resources to do things that have nothing to do with greed all the time. Times are simply different and to think we are about to be on a slippery slope to the beginning of the last century is silly.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

One thing I can say is that thanks to unions work conditions vastly improved due to their efforts. That being said the lack of a union now would not take things back to 1912 conditions. There are laws on the books as mentioned but also there is an accepted level people as to what is right for lack of a better term. People and companies for the most part know what works and doesn't for them. Most people would not accept a 100 hour a week job or let their 12 year old work regardless of need. Companies, outside of Amazon apparently, spend money and resources to do things that have nothing to do with greed all the time. Times are simply different and to think we are about to be on a slippery slope to the beginning of the last century is silly.

Those fuckers at Netflix gave men a years paid maternity leave last week.

Now you sound like Seacrest. And neither of you is actually talking about unions. You're talking about corruption.

I can tell you one thing for sure, a lot of people will be begging to unionize once Bezos convinces his rich friends that the "right" way to run a busInes is to measure their piss breaks with a stopwatch.

One thing I can say is that thanks to unions work conditions vastly improved due to their efforts. That being said the lack of a union now would not take things back to 1912 conditions. There are laws on the books as mentioned but also there is an accepted level people as to what is right for lack of a better term. People and companies for the most part know what works and doesn't for them. Most people would not accept a 100 hour a week job or let their 12 year old work regardless of need. Companies, outside of Amazon apparently, spend money and resources to do things that have nothing to do with greed all the time. Times are simply different and to think we are about to be on a slippery slope to the beginning of the last century is silly.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Friend of mine career at UPS lasted one day on the docks . His first ever shift, buzzer sounds signaling a 5 minute break or whatever, everyone runs to the drinking fountain. He's last to get over there, line is long. Buzzer sounds ending break everyone else gets back to work, he stays and gets his drink. Goes back to whatever truck he was loading and his supervisor immediately reprimands him for not being back on time. He quit after that shift. Now this was 30 plus years ago so I don't know if that stuff still happens there. I do know they work your ass off for those 5 hour part time dock shifts they offer.

We wouldn't go back to 1912 overnight, true. But capitalism will seek a way to increase profits and if that means moving a factory to a place where slave labor is legal or calling a guy an "associate" and putting him on salary to circumvent OT laws and work him 90 hours a week, that's what will happen and what has happened.

You can't lament the loss of blue collar jobs without examining this as a whole.

Friend of mine career at UPS lasted one day on the docks . His first ever shift, buzzer sounds signaling a 5 minute break or whatever, everyone runs to the drinking fountain. He's last to get over there, line is long. Buzzer sounds ending break everyone else gets back to work, he stays and gets his drink. Goes back to whatever truck he was loading and his supervisor immediately reprimands him for not being back on time. He quit after that shift. Now this was 30 plus years ago so I don't know if that stuff still happens there. I do know they work your ass off for those 5 hour part time dock shifts they offer.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

A man gave birth? That's incredible.

It's not always possession for the sake of possession. There are experiences, moments, memories and ways people want to live life.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Friend of mine career at UPS lasted one day on the docks . His first ever shift, buzzer sounds signaling a 5 minute break or whatever, everyone runs to the drinking fountain. He's last to get over there, line is long. Buzzer sounds ending break everyone else gets back to work, he stays and gets his drink. Goes back to whatever truck he was loading and his supervisor immediately reprimands him for not being back on time. He quit after that shift. Now this was 30 plus years ago so I don't know if that stuff still happens there. I do know they work your ass off for those 5 hour part time dock shifts they offer.

Probably wouldn't necessarily go back to 1912 but there are some alarming trends that can be traced to the decline of unions.

1. People in the U.S. are working more now than they ever have yet wages have remained stagnant.

2. Poverty is at an epidemic level.

3. The number of people that earn a livable wage from their labor is decreasing.

4. The number of people that work 2 and 3 jobs just to earn ends meet is growing

5. The transition from manufacturing to financials has generated 24 million fewer jobs. Service jobs generated as a result of this transition pay much less than the manufacturing jobs that they supplanted.

Brogue

what percentage of jobs that you post here are still unfilled?

Good points. I will add in my experience beginning in the 80's companies started tying raise to inflation rather than some scale (which in the past would have been in a union contract I suppose). Companies made people believe that every year the raise they got of 1.8-2.5% was all that was needed to keep up. Wrong. Companies also employ another method, scare tactics. When times are bad and people scared they say they have to tighten their belts and take a small raise if any. Then when time improve the company has to catch up or prepare for the next downturn.

Outside of changing jobs or having unusual leverage many people have not received more than a 2.5% raise in over 15 years.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

So, while people can talk about how they want this great companies, the question is who does the company cater to....Wall St or its customer?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

That's the problem in a nutshell.

Cry about big companies but don't you dare let the value of my 401K drop.

That's the problem in a nutshell.

Cry about big companies but don't you dare let the value of my 401K drop.

This is going to reach a head pretty soon.

Hey Seacrest,
How did your client lose a contract because they couldn't pay employees enough money?

Why would another company care that you pay the employees too little?

Hey Seacrest,
How did your client lose a contract because they couldn't pay employees enough money?

Why would another company care that you pay the employees too little?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

Why would I pay their employees?

Is this capitalism another topic you aren't really familiar with but will type all day about it?

Just got off the phone with a client that lost a contract because they couldn't pay warehouse workers as much as Amazon is paying.

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

So you don't know how this works?

So you don't know how this works?

No. I don't. That is why I am asking!

Why did your client lose a contract because they didn't pay their employees enough?

The victims are the American People and the Republic itself.

My client lost a contract because they could not offer an hourly wage that was competitive with Amazon's rate in that market.

My client lost a contract because they could not offer an hourly wage that was competitive with Amazon's rate in that market.