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Anyone trying to redirect the conversation to who has kids and who doesn't must feel very insecure about the merits if their argument in this thread.


I wasn't do that.

I know.

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Anyone trying to redirect the conversation to who has kids and who doesn't must feel very insecure about the merits if their argument in this thread.

Not really - I'd just like to make a clearer distinction as to whom exactly is talking straight out of their ass.

You yourself can take a step with him off to the right, Sir.

Shouldn't you be busy jacking off to NaturalNews or Alex Jones right now?

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Daughter just had her 1 year shots Friday. But hey, since I work in Special Rec, if she magically becomes autistic I can get her into all our programs for free.


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:lol: I haven't really said a whole lot in this thread other than saying that Panther's constant conspiracy theories give him no credibility. He then calls me a dick sucker, says someone spooged on my face, and then asks me how many kids I have. Even if I were arguing profusely against the decisions of Spaulding and Seacrest (I do disagree with them, btw), your last question is irrelevant and is used to change the subject. Having kids is not a prerequisite for arguing a position on vaccinations.

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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


To me, it means you're admitting to making an emotional decision and not a logical one. Otherwise, why would it matter?

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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


Possibly. Having a child or someone you were close to have a child that appeared to change after getting vaccinated may also influence your opinion. Just like not knowing anyone that has had any complications after getting vaccinated my influence your opinion.

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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


To me, it means you're admitting to making an emotional decision and not a logical one. Otherwise, why would it matter?


Our experiences can influence some of our decisions. This isn't a surprise.

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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


Possibly. Having a child or someone you were close to have a child that appeared to change after getting vaccinated may also influence your opinion. Just like not knowing anyone that has had any complications after getting vaccinated my influence your opinion.

What about effect repeated listening to Dan Bernstein has on leasesomesperm's brain?


We will need a scientific study to determine this.

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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


To me, it means you're admitting to making an emotional decision and not a logical one. Otherwise, why would it matter?


Our experiences can influence some of our decisions. This isn't a surprise.



Doesn't make it right though. If my grandpa smokes cigarettes every day and lives until he is 100, does that mean I am ok to smoke cigarettes? Of course not.


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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


To me, it means you're admitting to making an emotional decision and not a logical one. Otherwise, why would it matter?


Our experiences can influence some of our decisions. This isn't a surprise.


Agreed. But some are implying that the decision is better after having children. That makes no sense.

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Panther's excessive antipathy toward CSFMB ROY leashyourkids: hazing a newbie or QB's threatened by leash?


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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


To me, it means you're admitting to making an emotional decision and not a logical one. Otherwise, why would it matter?

So, how many is it, Big Brain Brad? :scratch:

There's only so many ways that one can say that they are full of shit, but you've pretty much covered them all.


Attempt 3. Fail 3.

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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


To me, it means you're admitting to making an emotional decision and not a logical one. Otherwise, why would it matter?


Our experiences can influence some of our decisions. This isn't a surprise.



Doesn't make it right though. If my grandpa smokes cigarettes every day and lives until he is 100, does that mean I am ok to smoke cigarettes? Of course not.


Correct. You can understand how some people may think the way they do even if you believe they are wrong. I think I'm going to live a very long time barring an accident because most of my family lives to be 85+ but I could be wrong about that.

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Correct. You can understand how some people may think the way they do even if you believe they are wrong. I think I'm going to live a very long time barring an accident because most of my family lives to be 85+ but I could be wrong about that.


No doubt. I was scared as hell to vaccinate my first kid because I was clueless and had heard horror stories. But when we talked to our doctor, and did our own reading, we still made the right decision. I won't lie and say I still wasn't nervous about it, but I knew we did the right thing.


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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/06/autism.vaccines/

Wait, where do you see that anyone cited Wakefield here?



If not Wakefield's "research", what is the basis for the belief in an autism-vaccination connection? Some nitwit who should pose for dirty magazines and never be allowed to speak?

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Seacrest, Spaulding, and Panther is one hell of an alliance, isn't it? I don't even know how to make a joke that ties the three together, it's just that random.


When you have kids, you will join us.

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Wouldn't it make more sense that having kids clouds your judgement more than not having them, anyway?


To me, it means you're admitting to making an emotional decision and not a logical one. Otherwise, why would it matter?


Our experiences can influence some of our decisions. This isn't a surprise.


Be careful, the ramifications of this logic Nas are far reaching.

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are you referencing the Hannah Poling case out of Atlanta? I think even the father acknowledged (or at least the court decided) that it's likely Hannah was headed for autism regardless of being vaccinated. The Poling family's winning contention was that the smorgasbord of 9 vaccinations at once (which I think is not the usual practice) acted as a catalyst to accelerate her devolution into autism.

Or maybe you're pointing to a separate case.


No. I haven't said anything about autism or a specific vaccination. I don't know if there is a link there or not and am not willing to say one way or another. I wouldn't discount people experiences or the possibility of it being true. I also wouldn't say it is true.

Vaccinations are known to cause paralysis, seizures, rashes and some other issues. Either it is becoming more prevalent or that information is more accessible.

You don't really know what's in them or the effects.

I think seacrest said something about thimerosal a page or 2 back. It's not used anymore in children's vaccines except for some flu shots (from what I have read). Why? Did they find out it's not so good? Did it cause irreversible damage to some? Would those people have been better off taking their chance with disease x than getting shot x? Is there a way we can find out who will be hurt instead of saying it's only a couple people?


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Seacrest, Spaulding, and Panther is one hell of an alliance, isn't it? I don't even know how to make a joke that ties the three together, it's just that random.


When you have kids, you will join us.

Bucky Chris has kids.

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Vaccinations are known to cause paralysis, seizures, rashes and some other issues.

All better options than death.

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If (A) you aren't a scientist who is researching and/or working in this specific field, (B) you aren't a medical doctor of any kind, and/or (C) you do not have children, you have no dog in this fight, and you are simply "BRick-ing" (a/k/a talking right out of your smelly asshole), so please see yourself out the door, ignoramuses.

Or is it ignoraramusi? :scratch:

You guys very well might be qualified to answer that one.

Are you claiming to be one of those 3 things?

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If (A) you aren't a scientist who is researching and/or working in this specific field, (B) you aren't a medical doctor of any kind, and/or (C) you do not have children, you have no dog in this fight, and you are simply "BRick-ing" (a/k/a talking right out of your smelly asshole), so please see yourself out the door, ignoramuses.

Or is it ignoraramusi? :scratch:

You guys very well might be qualified to answer that one.


Maybe dolphin knows. He went to school there.

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Let's pretend for a second that vaccinations can cause autism:

If I had to choose between a possible autistic kid or a possible dead kid, which one do you think is the better choice?

That is basically the thinking that led my wife and I to go for the regular slate of vaccinations.

There are risks with everything that you do in life.

I know a family in our town that believe that a vaccine may have given their oldest son a form of autism and they went ahead and got vaccinations for the next 2 kids.

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:lol: I haven't really said a whole lot in this thread other than saying that Panther's constant conspiracy theories give him no credibility. He then calls me a dick sucker, says someone spooged on my face, and then asks me how many kids I have. Even if I were arguing profusely against the decisions of Spaulding and Seacrest (I do disagree with them, btw), your last question is irrelevant and is used to change the subject. Having kids is not a prerequisite for arguing a position on vaccinations.


My children are vaccinated.


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Q.Bovifs wrote:
If (A) you aren't a scientist who is researching and/or working in this specific field, (B) you aren't a medical doctor of any kind, and/or (C) you do not have children, you have no dog in this fight, and you are simply "BRick-ing" (a/k/a talking right out of your smelly asshole), so please see yourself out the door, ignoramuses.

Or is it ignoraramusi? :scratch:

You guys very well might be qualified to answer that one.


Maybe dolphin knows. He went to school there.

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Let's pretend for a second that vaccinations can cause autism:

If I had to choose between a possible autistic kid or a possible dead kid, which one do you think is the better choice?

That is basically the thinking that led my wife and I to go for the regular slate of vaccinations.

There are risks with everything that you do in life.

I know a family in our town that believe that a vaccine may have given their oldest son a form of autism and they went ahead and got vaccinations for the next 2 kids.


The chance of getting those diseases is pretty low.


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Let's pretend for a second that vaccinations can cause autism:

If I had to choose between a possible autistic kid or a possible dead kid, which one do you think is the better choice?

That is basically the thinking that led my wife and I to go for the regular slate of vaccinations.

There are risks with everything that you do in life.

I know a family in our town that believe that a vaccine may have given their oldest son a form of autism and they went ahead and got vaccinations for the next 2 kids.


The chance of getting those diseases is pretty low.


True. But still a chance.

But it has not been proven there is a chance for negative things to happen with the vaccines. So still seems like the wiser move

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I completely understand why Seacrest and others feel the way they do. I just don't have the courage to take that leap myself.


Why can you understand it?


I have trust issues when it comes to the medical industry. I can understand why others may take certain steps that they believe are in the best interest of their kids. I personally don't have the courage to go as far as them.


Certain medical issues seem ripe for disagreement, with at least somewhat decent evidence on both sides. But here, I see literally no evidence on the other side.



That's why the government keeps a fund to pay out if you push them far enough.

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Anyone trying to redirect the conversation to who has kids and who doesn't must feel very insecure about the merits if their argument in this thread.


I wasn't do that.

I know.



Look sparky, when you've had a child permanently harmed by a vaccination like we have, I'll feel a lot better about you taking time out of your busy schedule to judge how our family approaches the issue.

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