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I heard some gymnast commentator say she thought Biles was on the team this go round partly as a result
of the Nassar thing. Biles wanted to be on the team to keep an eye on the girls to make sure they weren't experiencing any mistreatment; which good on her if that's the case. Also, the gymnast mentioned that the gymnastics community places as much or even more blame on Béla Károlyi and his wife for what happened as they do Nassar. Apparently the Karolyi's were real fuckers and fostered a super toxic environment in which the girls trained.

Maybe if these games had taken place 12 months ago Biles would've been in a better place mentally/physically to compete? Dunno how much of a diff there is between 23 and 24, both seem exceptionally aged for an Olympic gymnast. But then there's that 46 year old Uzbekistani chick, so who knows.


Then be a coach. That sounds like a total bullshit reason to be on the team.

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Wasn’t she holding out for Tim Tebow?


Per Wiki, she's still a virgjn and unmarried at 38. I'm going with lesbian.

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 Post subject: Re: Simone Biles
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Frank, are you on the side of Biles is mentally weak and/or this shows mental weakness from her spot? Come the fuck on.
No. I'm of the mindset that she is (or at least was) an all time great gymnast who had been to the highest level her sport offers, succeeded at that highest level, then quit on her team and her country and is being praised for it.

It's not a two way street. Either she is a quitter, or she has/had some serious mental issues that needed to be addressed. If the latter were the case, she should not have been doing press conferences in Japan. She should have been home or in a hospital somewhere getting the help she needed.

And now she's mentally strong enough to go on a "GOAT" tour? Gimmie a fuckin break...

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Frank, are you on the side of Biles is mentally weak and/or this shows mental weakness from her spot? Come the fuck on.
No. I'm of the mindset that she is (or at least was) an all time great gymnast who had been to the highest level her sport offers, succeeded at that highest level, then quit on her team and her country and is being praised for it.

It's not a two way street. Either she is a quitter, or she has/had some serious mental issues that needed to be addressed. If the latter were the case, she should not have been doing press conferences in Japan. She should have been home or in a hospital somewhere getting the help she needed.

And now she's mentally strong enough to go on a "GOAT" tour? Gimmie a fuckin break...

I don't watch. I honestly wouldn't recognize her if she knocked on my door. I'd go "Must be selling girl scout cookies".

So with my limited knowledge of a extremely niche sport, leave her be. Let her bank some scratch.


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No one is preventing you from thinking Simone Biles choked. There are literally zero consequences for thinking she sucks ass. :lol:

That's not true.

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No one is preventing you from thinking Simone Biles choked. There are literally zero consequences for thinking she sucks ass. :lol:

That's not true.

Not in the short run, but in the long run, the "choke" may stick.


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Let her bank some scratch.
She should absolutely take every single dollar that any stupid corporation is willing to give her. Take it and run.

I will never think of her as a "hero" though.

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Can we all go back to the reality none of us give a shit about gymnastics now?


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I give her a lot of credit for persevering after going through the very public Nassar shit. That had to be tough to even go outside, much less be the face of her sport.

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Can we all go back to the reality none of us give a shit about gymnastics now?

I always get it confused with ice-skating anyway

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Can we all go back to the reality none of us give a shit about gymnastics now?


Yes it's over for another 3 years.

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Can we all go back to the reality none of us give a shit about gymnastics now?


Yes it's over for another 3 years.

The Pan-Am Championships are always a good watch, though

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No one is preventing you from thinking Simone Biles choked. There are literally zero consequences for thinking she sucks ass. :lol:

That's not true.


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SpiralStairs wrote:
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No one is preventing you from thinking Simone Biles choked. There are literally zero consequences for thinking she sucks ass. :lol:

That's not true.


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Disagree do I. She's a member of the protected elite now. It works with their world-view. To criticize her in any way probably means your/you're racist, sexist, misogynist, etc. It's not abotu Biles at this point.

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 Post subject: Re: Simone Biles
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Can we all go back to the reality none of us give a shit about gymnastics now?

Isn't that the point of the Olympics though? You watch sports you otherwise don't care about for a week or two. This isn't like us caring about the Kansas City Gymnastics Invitational.

It was like how I turned on Olympic men's basketball and said "Oh yeah, Kevin Durant, the guy who played at Texas" and after we win the gold medal I can forget he exists.

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I give her a lot of credit for persevering after going through the very public Nassar shit. That had to be tough to even go outside, much less be the face of her sport.

I agree. That doesn't mean she can't make a wrong decision and be judged for it. JORR recently said, "Life comes at you fast". Staying on your toes is really the only way to come out the other end of a tragedy.

This wallowing phase our society is in right now? I don't recommend it.


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I give her a lot of credit for persevering after going through the very public Nassar shit. That had to be tough to even go outside, much less be the face of her sport.

I agree. That doesn't mean she can't make a wrong decision and be judged for it. JORR recently said, "Life comes at you fast". Staying on your toes is really the only way to come out the other end of a tragedy.
Right. Like Brick said, if she had simply said, "I was off on my jumps and my foot was injured. I wouldn't have performed at a level high enough for me to accept, or to win a medal. I deferred to my teammates who were healthy and ready go to," THAT would have been brave.

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Now she's wallowing...sheesh.

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Now she's wallowing...sheesh.

Didn't say that you turd.


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where's the outpouring of mckayla maroney praise for her GEICO ad? that still makes me laugh.


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where's the outpouring of mckayla maroney praise for her GEICO ad? that still makes me laugh.


:lol:

Making a buck off that smirk. Good for her.

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At least she actually did something to earn that paycheck.

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thomas wrote:
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No one is preventing you from thinking Simone Biles choked. There are literally zero consequences for thinking she sucks ass. :lol:

That's not true.


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Disagree do I. She's a member of the protected elite now. It works with their world-view. To criticize her in any way probably means your/you're racist, sexist, misogynist, etc. It's not abotu Biles at this point.


She can be criticized and she has. I doubt if anyone's life has been altered as a result of criticizing her either. That doesn't mean that some of the criticism isn't unfair.

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thomas wrote:
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No one is preventing you from thinking Simone Biles choked. There are literally zero consequences for thinking she sucks ass. :lol:

That's not true.


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Disagree do I. She's a member of the protected elite now. It works with their world-view. To criticize her in any way probably means your/you're racist, sexist, misogynist, etc. It's not abotu Biles at this point.


She can be criticized and she has. I doubt if anyone's life has been altered as a result of criticizing her either. That doesn't mean that some of the criticism isn't unfair.


Missing the larger point

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No one is preventing you from thinking Simone Biles choked. There are literally zero consequences for thinking she sucks ass. :lol:

That's not true.


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Disagree do I. She's a member of the protected elite now. It works with their world-view. To criticize her in any way probably means your/you're racist, sexist, misogynist, etc. It's not abotu Biles at this point.


She can be criticized and she has. I doubt if anyone's life has been altered as a result of criticizing her either. That doesn't mean that some of the criticism isn't unfair.


Missing the larger point


Nah I'm not. Some people will claim its about such things. Some will not. That goes for just about anything in this country once it becomes politicized. Truth doesn't matter. Only political affiliation.

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I guess i just don't get this whole thing. i don't get being mad, i don't get overtly defensive, we literally have no idea who this person really is. she became worldwide famous for doing her gig in 2016. was victimized in a huge sexual abuse scandal, all before the age of what 24? and we are all surprised that she's likely absolutely messed up and those "yips" might come at the worst possible time?


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I guess i just don't get this whole thing. i don't get being mad, i don't get overtly defensive, we literally have no idea who this person really is. she became worldwide famous for doing her gig in 2016. was victimized in a huge sexual abuse scandal, all before the age of what 24? and we are all surprised that she's likely absolutely messed up and those "yips" might come at the worst possible time?


Nuanced takes? In this thread? Please GTFO now

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I guess i just don't get this whole thing. i don't get being mad, i don't get overtly defensive, we literally have no idea who this person really is. she became worldwide famous for doing her gig in 2016. was victimized in a huge sexual abuse scandal, all before the age of what 24? and we are all surprised that she's likely absolutely messed up and those "yips" might come at the worst possible time?


yea. she will be fine, but she probably just needs a few years off without any media attention. shes never had that, it would be really fucked up not knowing what normal is. it happens to mens sports players all the time and we write it off as injury or laziness.

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I guess i just don't get this whole thing. i don't get being mad, i don't get overtly defensive, we literally have no idea who this person really is. she became worldwide famous for doing her gig in 2016. was victimized in a huge sexual abuse scandal, all before the age of what 24? and we are all surprised that she's likely absolutely messed up and those "yips" might come at the worst possible time?

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Ahhh. Much better.

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