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:lol: Let me just give you a chance to stop before you embarrass yourself and try to argue that Brooks pointing the taser at the pursuing officer wasn't REALLY a threat because his aim would be terrible. Just swallow that one and we won't speak of it again, ok?

I think you have it backwards about who is embarrassing themselves about this.
From the "The gun in his hand was aimed at the officer, but he wasn't POINTING it at him!" guy? Settle down, counsel. Stick to policing Latin usage.

You're the dumbass who tried to use a Latin phrase to try to sound smart. Don't blame me for calling you out for your incorrect usage of it.
What was incorrect about the usage?

I don't remember anymore. And as far as comparing me and shakes to Julie, how is your wannabe radio career working out for you?
Because I'm pretty sure you just got uppity that I, a non-lawyer, DARED to use a latin phrase commonly "reserved" for lawyers.

And I must say that I'm offended: I didn't compare you AND shakes to Julie, one of you got to be Sheryl.

Also, are you actually interested in how my career is doing? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and trying to demean me!


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Franky T wrote:
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Two lawyers. But you know better.
Which one of you is Sheryl and which one is Julie?

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You don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a fact intensive case and it's up to the jury to hear the facts and make a decision. It's as simple as that.
Like the fact that Brooks was pointing the weapon he had just fired at the pursuing officer?

Do you not understand the role of the trier of fact in a trial? Didn't Google Law teach you that yet?
What special definition of "pointing" do THEY use?

It's up to THEM to decide that. This is the problem with internet lawyers. They don't understand the role of the trier of fact.
"Pointing" is pretty cut and dry, why would they need to redefine it?
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Franky T wrote:
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Two lawyers. But you know better.
Which one of you is Sheryl and which one is Julie?

Franky T wrote:
You don't seem to grasp the concept that this is a fact intensive case and it's up to the jury to hear the facts and make a decision. It's as simple as that.
Like the fact that Brooks was pointing the weapon he had just fired at the pursuing officer?

Do you not understand the role of the trier of fact in a trial? Didn't Google Law teach you that yet?
What special definition of "pointing" do THEY use?

It's up to THEM to decide that. This is the problem with internet lawyers. They don't understand the role of the trier of fact.
"Pointing" is pretty cut and dry, why would they need to redefine it?

Is it cut and dry? Obviously this thread shows that it isn't.

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It's up to THEM to decide that. This is the problem with internet lawyers. They don't understand the role of the trier of fact.

Frank I dont pretend to be lawyer or are familiar with trial law at all but if something like pointing a tazer and firing at someone which is shown on tape has to be adjudicated to see if they were actually pointing a tazer at someone and firing it to see if thats factual . Wow.

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JLN will never pass up on an opportunity to defend a white cop who kills a black man.

It's one of the certainties of the board.

You don’t think he would be defending the cop if he were black? The race is irrelevant here.

That's laughable.

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It's up to THEM to decide that. This is the problem with internet lawyers. They don't understand the role of the trier of fact.

Frank I dont pretend to be lawyer or are familiar with trial law at all but if something like pointing a tazer and firing at someone which is shown on tape has to be adjudicated to see if they were actually pointing a tazer at someone and firing it to see if thats factual . Wow.

Of course it doesn't. He thinks he's found a loose thread and he's pulling for dear life.
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JLN will never pass up on an opportunity to defend a white cop who kills a black man.

It's one of the certainties of the board.

You don’t think he would be defending the cop if he were black? The race is irrelevant here.

That's laughable.

Ah yes coming from Mr. Impartiality himself.

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Thanks Tucker. Good video proof that the cop is innocent.
Also, Georgia law says he's innocent so the corrupt DA needs [redacted].

BURN IT DOWN BURN IT ALL DOWN


Thanks G_d-PBUH-for Tucker. Nobody even near him on YOURTVs. A hero.

He won't run but a sure shoo-in in 2024 with Kristi, if he did.

And in conclusion as Tucker and that FBI guy said, what's coming to YOURCITYPOLICEDEPTs is gonna be horrible. LOLOLO ENJOY

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Because I'm pretty sure you just got uppity that I, a non-lawyer, DARED to use a latin phrase commonly "reserved" for lawyers.

And I must say that I'm offended: I didn't compare you AND shakes to Julie, one of you got to be Sheryl.

Also, are you actually interested in how my career is doing? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and trying to demean me!

I didn't get uppity about anything. I was simply trying to further your quest for an internet law degree by informing you that you were incorrectly using a legal term. It was a teaching moment. And yes, I was trying to demean you just as you did to me.

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It's up to THEM to decide that. This is the problem with internet lawyers. They don't understand the role of the trier of fact.

Frank I dont pretend to be lawyer or are familiar with trial law at all but if something like pointing a tazer and firing at someone which is shown on tape has to be adjudicated to see if they were actually pointing a tazer at someone and firing it to see if thats factual . Wow.

Of course it doesn't. He thinks he's found a loose thread and he's pulling for dear life.

Again, you are showing your ignorance as to the role of the fact finders in a trial. Trials consist of more than googling legal standards.

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Franky T wrote:
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It's up to THEM to decide that. This is the problem with internet lawyers. They don't understand the role of the trier of fact.

Frank I dont pretend to be lawyer or are familiar with trial law at all but if something like pointing a tazer and firing at someone which is shown on tape has to be adjudicated to see if they were actually pointing a tazer at someone and firing it to see if thats factual . Wow.

Of course it doesn't. He thinks he's found a loose thread and he's pulling for dear life.

Again, you are showing your ignorance as to the role of the fact finders in a trial. Trials consist of more than googling legal standards.
So it has to be up to the jury whether Brooks pointed the taser at the pursuing officer, that's your stance?
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Along time ago far away wasn’t it legal to shoot a fleeing felon? My question is not about this case’s facts.

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Because I'm pretty sure you just got uppity that I, a non-lawyer, DARED to use a latin phrase commonly "reserved" for lawyers.

And I must say that I'm offended: I didn't compare you AND shakes to Julie, one of you got to be Sheryl.

Also, are you actually interested in how my career is doing? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and trying to demean me!

I didn't get uppity about anything. I was simply trying to further your quest for an internet law degree by informing you that you were incorrectly using a legal term. It was a teaching moment. And yes, I was trying to demean you just as you did to me.
You're so absolutely sure that it was used wrong, but you can't remember how?

And why would you feign interest in my career?
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Are we really arguing that a guy who pointed the weapon he took from the cop shouldn't be considered a threat despite pointing said weapon because he was running while he did it?

It's a shame that this thing escalated to the point it did, but if you take a weapon from and point it at the police there is a high probablity of you being shot.


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Well Atlanta gets a night without cops.


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Because I'm pretty sure you just got uppity that I, a non-lawyer, DARED to use a latin phrase commonly "reserved" for lawyers.

And I must say that I'm offended: I didn't compare you AND shakes to Julie, one of you got to be Sheryl.

Also, are you actually interested in how my career is doing? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic and trying to demean me!

I didn't get uppity about anything. I was simply trying to further your quest for an internet law degree by informing you that you were incorrectly using a legal term. It was a teaching moment. And yes, I was trying to demean you just as you did to me.
You're so absolutely sure that it was used wrong, but you can't remember how?

And why would you feign interest in my career?

No. I don't remember the exact details surrounding every post I make. And I feign interest in you career because you compared me to Julie. I'm guessing Julie has been more successful in her radio career than you.

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Franky T wrote:
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It's up to THEM to decide that. This is the problem with internet lawyers. They don't understand the role of the trier of fact.

Frank I dont pretend to be lawyer or are familiar with trial law at all but if something like pointing a tazer and firing at someone which is shown on tape has to be adjudicated to see if they were actually pointing a tazer at someone and firing it to see if thats factual . Wow.

Of course it doesn't. He thinks he's found a loose thread and he's pulling for dear life.

Again, you are showing your ignorance as to the role of the fact finders in a trial. Trials consist of more than googling legal standards.
So it has to be up to the jury whether Brooks pointed the taser at the pursuing officer, that's your stance?

My stance is it is up to the jury to decide whether or not the officer was justified in shooting the guy in the back as he was running away. Whether or not he was "pointing" a "weapon" at him is only one of the factors they will consider in making that decision.

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Well Atlanta gets a night without cops.



Eventually this was going to happen. Here, Seattle or wherever. It is chaos. I think it was Jorr that said rioting, looting and all that is now legal just like sanctuary cities.

I will sit on my big ass DenisDman deck on the outskirts and watch the movie.

Generally a play on Obama’s elections have consequences is People get what they ask for. When the people are more tired than mad they will look back to conformity, normalcies and safety. Will it be there?

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Hang on.....he was holding a taser which was pointed at the cop and running away with his head turned toward the cop?
:lol: Let me just give you a chance to stop before you embarrass yourself and try to argue that Brooks pointing the taser at the pursuing officer wasn't REALLY a threat because his aim would be terrible. Just swallow that one and we won't speak of it again, ok?

You’re posting condescending shit like this after getting thoroughly pantsed in this thread by shakes and Franky?

That’s highly amusing :lol:

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Are we really arguing that a guy who pointed the weapon he took from the cop shouldn't be considered a threat despite pointing said weapon because he was running while he did it?
But a LAWYER thinks so! Not even a fake one like me!


I mean maybe shakes and Franky are right in terms of the law. I wouldn't think so but I don't know shit.

:lol:

Come on Peeps. You’re smarter than this. I expect this nonsense from JLN and brogue.

You really think you know law better than shakes and Franky? Just admit they are right here. Maybe they get off but shakes laid out an impossible to rebut case 5 pages ago about why the cop was charged.

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Hang on.....he was holding a taser which was pointed at the cop and running away with his head turned toward the cop?
:lol: Let me just give you a chance to stop before you embarrass yourself and try to argue that Brooks pointing the taser at the pursuing officer wasn't REALLY a threat because his aim would be terrible. Just swallow that one and we won't speak of it again, ok?

You’re posting condescending shit like this after getting thoroughly pantsed in this thread by shakes and Franky?

That’s highly amusing :lol:


Yeah I would like to hear an actual lawyer's view on how they would go about defending the cop.

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Hang on.....he was holding a taser which was pointed at the cop and running away with his head turned toward the cop?
:lol: Let me just give you a chance to stop before you embarrass yourself and try to argue that Brooks pointing the taser at the pursuing officer wasn't REALLY a threat because his aim would be terrible. Just swallow that one and we won't speak of it again, ok?

You’re posting condescending shit like this after getting thoroughly pantsed in this thread by shakes and Franky?

That’s highly amusing :lol:
:lol: I had one of them arguing that we need to use a special definition of "pointing" something, but yeah, whatever you say.
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
Are we really arguing that a guy who pointed the weapon he took from the cop shouldn't be considered a threat despite pointing said weapon because he was running while he did it?
But a LAWYER thinks so! Not even a fake one like me!


I mean maybe shakes and Franky are right in terms of the law. I wouldn't think so but I don't know shit.

:lol:

Come on Peeps. You’re smarter than this. I expect this nonsense from JLN and brogue.

You really think you know law better than shakes and Franky? Just admit they are right here. Maybe they get off but shakes laid out an impossible to rebut case 5 pages ago about why the cop was charged.


FF would take legal advice from Julie DiCaro.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Peoria Matt wrote:
Hang on.....he was holding a taser which was pointed at the cop and running away with his head turned toward the cop?
:lol: Let me just give you a chance to stop before you embarrass yourself and try to argue that Brooks pointing the taser at the pursuing officer wasn't REALLY a threat because his aim would be terrible. Just swallow that one and we won't speak of it again, ok?

You’re posting condescending shit like this after getting thoroughly pantsed in this thread by shakes and Franky?

That’s highly amusing :lol:
:lol: I had one of them arguing that we need to use a special definition of "pointing" something, but yeah, whatever you say.

:lol: :lol:

This is almost endearing. You should get a Great Job! sticker

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badrogue17 wrote:
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JLN will never pass up on an opportunity to defend a white cop who kills a black man.

It's one of the certainties of the board.

You don’t think he would be defending the cop if he were black? The race is irrelevant here.

That's laughable.

Ah yes coming from Mr. Impartiality himself.


I mean, depending on what you think of JLN you can assign all sorts of positive or negative motivations for it, but at the end of the day, yeah, I think he’d defend a black cop killing a white dude.
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
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Hang on.....he was holding a taser which was pointed at the cop and running away with his head turned toward the cop?
:lol: Let me just give you a chance to stop before you embarrass yourself and try to argue that Brooks pointing the taser at the pursuing officer wasn't REALLY a threat because his aim would be terrible. Just swallow that one and we won't speak of it again, ok?

You’re posting condescending shit like this after getting thoroughly pantsed in this thread by shakes and Franky?

That’s highly amusing :lol:
:lol: I had one of them arguing that we need to use a special definition of "pointing" something, but yeah, whatever you say.

Just stop and admit you don't understand the role of a jury in a trial.

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